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Sentences that trigger lore nerds

  • starkerealm
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    It's biblical. Literally. As I recall, it's an old Hebrew word that roughly translates to, "what is it?"

    I'm not sure when it popped up as a measurement of magical energy, though.

    D&D maybe?

    D&D uses Vancian magic. So, no mana equivalent there. (The exception is Psionic characters, but that's called "focus," or something.)

    As @adriant1978 indicated, it's Larry Niven.
  • Sunah
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    "ESO is just like Skyrim!"
  • Aliyavana
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    Sunah wrote: »
    "ESO is just like Skyrim!"

    Omg no. "Is eso as good as skyrim?" Cringe af
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Pretty much any variation of, 'I have an idea in my head from another game series and it has to be canon for Elder Scrolls too!'
    Edit: And I forgot "Introducing the XXX Crown Crate Season"

    I dunno if that one's specific to the Warriors of the Lore though. ;)
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  • ArchMikem
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    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

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    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?
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  • Dustfinger81
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    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    Magic: The Gathering. The lands provide you with mana to cast your spells and summons.

    OT:

    "There's nothing interesting about Argonians in lore. People only like them for their racials"

    "Orcs aren't elves"

    "All Dwarves are the same" (Normally could be true until you get to ElderScrolls)

    "Argonians are uncivilized"

    "It wouldn't be hard to conquer BlackMarsh if you knew what you were doing" *Raaaaaage*

  • Aliyavana
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    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    Magic: The Gathering. The lands provide you with mana to cast your spells and summons.

    OT:

    "There's nothing interesting about Argonians in lore. People only like them for their racials"

    "Orcs aren't elves"

    "All Dwarves are the same" (Normally could be true until you get to ElderScrolls)

    "Argonians are uncivilized"

    "It wouldn't be hard to conquer BlackMarsh if you knew what you were doing" *Raaaaaage*

    I agree with the Argonian comments
  • Dustfinger81
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    Magic: The Gathering. The lands provide you with mana to cast your spells and summons.

    OT:

    "There's nothing interesting about Argonians in lore. People only like them for their racials"

    "Orcs aren't elves"

    "All Dwarves are the same" (Normally could be true until you get to ElderScrolls)

    "Argonians are uncivilized"

    "It wouldn't be hard to conquer BlackMarsh if you knew what you were doing" *Raaaaaage*

    I agree with the Argonian comments

    *triggered*
  • red_emu
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    my husband said this once.

    "the wood elves are just like the night elves in WOW"

    My husband always says "why do you spend so much time playing with your elves on that computer?"

    My usual response is: "If I don't get to play with my elves on that computer, you don't get to play with my elves on that bed" ... Shuts him up every time :wink:
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  • TheNuminous1
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    Ilsabet wrote: »
    By the Nine, how many septims do I have to pay to see some dragons around here?

    This made my drink shoot out my nose xD
  • Insomnia rex
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

    1392464547380.jpg

    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?

    Well, is it canon?
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  • starkerealm
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

    1392464547380.jpg

    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?

    Well, is it canon?

    It's from Kirkbride after he left Bethesda, so, no.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

    1392464547380.jpg

    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?

    Well, is it canon?

    It's from Kirkbride after he left Bethesda, so, no.

    Kirkbride did many things for Oblivion and a few things for Skyrim. Both games were developed after he had left Bethesda and those are universally considered canon nonetheless.
    => argument invalid.
  • Dustfinger81
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

    1392464547380.jpg

    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?

    Well, is it canon?

    It's from Kirkbride after he left Bethesda, so, no.

    Kirkbride did many things for Oblivion and a few things for Skyrim. Both games were developed after he had left Bethesda and those are universally considered canon nonetheless.
    => argument invalid.

    Oblivian and Skyrim are inside sources. Anything they do no matter who it was, is considered canon. But, Kirkbride, on his own, is an outside source. he MAY be right about this item but until we know he is right by an inside source, it isn't canon. Canon means it is lore truth. All we have so far is a possibility of lore truth.
  • starkerealm
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    "C0DA is canon"

    I clicked. I looked a little. I saw this,

    1392464547380.jpg

    Oh yeah, I was triggered. That's supposed to be Nirn in the 5th Era? And Dunmer are living on the moon now?

    Well, is it canon?

    It's from Kirkbride after he left Bethesda, so, no.

    Kirkbride did many things for Oblivion and a few things for Skyrim. Both games were developed after he had left Bethesda and those are universally considered canon nonetheless.
    => argument invalid.

    Given you don't seem to understand what a canon is, your ability to declare anything suspect is invalid.

    A canon is a collection of works that are taken together as a larger gestalt.

    Designation of something being included or excluded from a canon ultimately comes down to authoritative voices on the subject. In this case, the accepted authority for designating the TES canon would be Bethesda. Arguably ZOS should also be on that list, but there's a consensual element to this. Some of the community is willing to accept ZOS's contributions as canon, and their designation of canon materials. Others, not so much.

    Which brings us to Kirkbride. Some members of the community view him as an absolute authority on the setting. He's not. He is no longer in a position to formally dictate canon, and the stuff he has produced since than, that hasn't been formally accepted by Bethesda or ZOS should be treated as apocryphal.

    This is especially true of C0DA, as it severely deviates from the established canon.

    Saying otherwise would be like claiming that Andromeda and Lost Universe should be considered Star Trek canon because Roddenberry worked on both, and clearly intended for those works to function as part of that setting. With the serial numbers filed off, due to IP rights issues.

    So, no, C0DA is not canon. At least not now. Bethesda could chose to dig it up and incorporate it into Starfield if they wanted to, at which point, hey, it'd be canon. But, until then, it is not.
  • MissBizz
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    Firemoth Island.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Firemoth Island.

    :expressionless: I'm just going to pretend the Reman Dynasty had holdings there or something until someone can prove otherwise.
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  • starkerealm
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Firemoth Island.

    You win this round.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Given you don't seem to understand what a canon is, your ability to declare anything suspect is invalid.

    I know what "canon" means, thank you.
    Which brings us to Kirkbride. Some members of the community view him as an absolute authority on the setting. He's not. He is no longer in a position to formally dictate canon, and the stuff he has produced since than, that hasn't been formally accepted by Bethesda or ZOS should be treated as apocryphal.

    Except that the argument was "Kirkbride wasn't working for Beth anymore, therefore it's not canon". That argument is invalid.
    Your current argument on the other hand ("Nothing is canon unless included by ZOS or Bethesda in an official release") is completely different - and valid, at least from a logical point of view.
    Which brings us to Kirkbride.

    Thank you for illustrating my point so effectively :-)
    Michael Kirkbride. In any sentence.



    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on August 6, 2017 9:50AM
  • LMar
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    Yeap it seems that even here MK stirs the waters ;)
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  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    It's biblical. Literally. As I recall, it's an old Hebrew word that roughly translates to, "what is it?"

    I'm not sure when it popped up as a measurement of magical energy, though.

    D&D maybe?

    "Magic: The Gathering" card game. It used "Mana" as a reserve of "magicka".
    But, still no place in TES.. :smiley:

    As far as "Canon"...for me, if it is not "In-Game" in any 10 TES games,( books, NPC Diaolog, etc.), it is not "Canon"...
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    Edited by wenchmore420b14_ESO on August 5, 2017 8:12PM
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  • zaria
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Firemoth Island.

    You win this round.
    Don't get it?
    It was the starting location in ESO: Morrowind and an slaver base, it was an imperial fort in TES3 700 years later.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • Dread_Guy
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    "Two more keeps so I can be emperor!"

    The whole system for emperorship really triggers me lorewise. I get why it's the way it is for competition's sake, but that's not how Empires work...at all...
    Edited by Dread_Guy on August 5, 2017 9:32PM
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Sunah wrote: »
    "ESO is just like Skyrim!"

    Omg no. "Is eso as good as skyrim?" Cringe af

    Nothing get me more, how can one even assume they are alike or even comparable.

    "I don't consider eso Canon because the lusty argonian maid book is in the game"

    "game is not Canon because you have so many soulless people running around and so many heroes who defeated Molag bal fighting in cyrodiil"
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  • starkerealm
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    I just thought of another one, that irks me to no end: "mana" instead of "magicka". I don't know which setting that comes from but in TES, it's always "magicka"!

    It's biblical. Literally. As I recall, it's an old Hebrew word that roughly translates to, "what is it?"

    I'm not sure when it popped up as a measurement of magical energy, though.

    D&D maybe?

    "Magic: The Gathering" card game. It used "Mana" as a reserve of "magicka".
    But, still no place in TES.. :smiley:

    As far as "Canon"...for me, if it is not "In-Game" in any 10 TES games,( books, NPC Diaolog, etc.), it is not "Canon"...
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    One very important exception to this. There's also the Pocket Guide to the Empire. There's actually two different editions. One was included with Redguard and is accurate to the late second era, and the second was packaged with the Collector's Edition of Oblivion, and is accurate to the late Third Era. Both have been specifically acknowledged as canonical, and include information that hasn't been mentioned elsewhere, or has been later confirmed (for example, the first mentions of the Thalmor come from the Pocket Guide).
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    zaria wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Firemoth Island.

    You win this round.
    Don't get it?
    It was the starting location in ESO: Morrowind and an slaver base, it was an imperial fort in TES3 700 years later.

    The island has a Velothi name. The Imperial name dates to the first or second century of the Third Era. Meaning it shouldn't be called "Firemoth" in ESO.
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    Referring to the TES series as "the Skyrim games".

    "So how do you make your character dragonborn"
    "You can't"
    "But you can become dragonborn in all the other Skyrim games so why not this one?"
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  • Dustfinger81
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Referring to the TES series as "the Skyrim games".

    "So how do you make your character dragonborn"
    "You can't"
    "But you can become dragonborn in all the other Skyrim games so why not this one?"

    That'd do it.

  • ArchMikem
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Referring to the TES series as "the Skyrim games".

    "So how do you make your character dragonborn"
    "You can't"
    "But you can become dragonborn in all the other Skyrim games so why not this one?"

    Dude even my first game was Skyrim and I'm not dumb enough to claim the entire series as "The Skyrim Series", which leads me to the following;

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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Firemoth Island.
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