Better looking vampires!
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✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.
But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.
... which is why Verandis can hide it...
Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.
And on top of that list is.
-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot VampiresPeople have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?
Yes and when you are well fed you also decrease your vamp stage no? And you also look more than a human than a zombie on meth or not?
Why lore? - it's good for making money and to satisfy the RP crowd.
No idea what you want from me. If it is trying to be annoying, you definitely made it, with that picture and putting "bruh" in it
A stage one vamp should look mortal. If you disagree, I'd like to hear why. Through multiple in game sources, I'd like to point out that vampires can hide themselves in ESO.
You stated you didn't care about lore. That was what got you the "bruh" meme
(Edit regarding above, apparently made up words are censored lol)
I'm down with stage 4 vamps looking like absolute horror shows, really I am. A stage one vamp should look mortal though.Edited by DocFrost72 on August 1, 2017 4:51PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭My friend and I had nothing but fun ewwing and gacking over how awful our vamps got to looking after stage 4, it was hilarious! I would not want that changed. I mean they're freaking undead! Dead things walking around feeding on the living SHOULD be revolting, the whole concept is revolting. Plus it's hilarious to go from "I just look a little bit peaked", and come out the other end of a dungeon and make your friend go GAH YOUR FACE. Way too funny to change!0 -
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As far as the sun goes, since this is a game rather than a fictional story and needs to be playable, I would say the sun at stage 1 the has no effect. Stages to through for you could say that during the daytime hours (06:00-18:00), the negative effects of each stage has a 5% increase for each stage. This only further incentivizes a player to remain healthy and well-fed.
Interesting idea but lore already states that Noxiphilic Sanguivoria does not make the vampire vulnerable to sunlight and I doubt they would change it. Also if you had negative effects from being in the sun ( and eso night is only like 20 minutes long unless im mistaken) vampire wouldn't be viable I think
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✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
LOLS no he doesn't brah. He only looks normal when he is using his Illusion powers to be sexy for Mena. His true appearance looks like this:
and this:
There is NOTHING "normal" about that ;P
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That would still make him "look" normal tho, if he has to use his powers or not is unimportant
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Why not. To me it just looks like a rough morning after an extended Saturday eveningPC EU
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✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »@AlMcFly
That would still make him "look" normal tho, if he has to use his powers or not is unimportant
True, though I think in most lore, you cannot take Dracula as a model. Dracula is the King of Vampires, and in some lore, the progenitor of all vampires. He has always had powers and magic that the common vampire wouldn't have. Allowing the common ESO vampire to turn into Mist is even a stretch, as most common vampire shouldn't be able to do that.
Dracula is Overpowered. He can turn beast form, mist form, bat form, command animals, has strong illusion magic, and all his strength/senses exceed other vampires x10. Hell, in some fiction, the very weather (ie: dark storm clouds and mist) follow Dracula around.
In other words: we shouldn't look to Dracula for design-inspiration in regards to ESO's player vampires. We vampires are one rank better than the scummy feral Blood-Fiends, but we are no Dracula. We aren't even Vampire Lord level.
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RainfeatherUK✭✭✭✭The current look is fine. Altering it is a waste of resources imo.
If something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Not everyone finds it as ugly or bad as you claim either. Personally like how some of my characters look at stage four with various customization's.
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AlMcFly✭✭✭✭✭
✭RainfeatherUK wrote: »The current look is fine. Altering it is a waste of resources imo.
If something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Not everyone finds it as ugly or bad as you claim either. Personally like how some of my characters look at stage four with various customization's.
So um yeah. Shove your change ideas back wherever you pulled them from thanks.
Once I get the Fabrication Sheath skin, it'll be a non-issue ;P0 -
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You're right, but in eso players are more powerful vampires.Ectheliontnacil wrote: »@AlMcFly
That would still make him "look" normal tho, if he has to use his powers or not is unimportant
True, though I think in most lore, you cannot take Dracula as a model. Dracula is the King of Vampires, and in some lore, the progenitor of all vampires. He has always had powers and magic that the common vampire wouldn't have. Allowing the common ESO vampire to turn into Mist is even a stretch, as most common vampire shouldn't be able to do that.
Dracula is Overpowered. He can turn beast form, mist form, bat form, command animals, has strong illusion magic, and all his strength/senses exceed other vampires x10. Hell, in some fiction, the very weather (ie: dark storm clouds and mist) follow Dracula around.
In other words: we shouldn't look to Dracula for design-inspiration in regards to ESO's player vampires. We vampires are one rank better than the scummy feral Blood-Fiends, but we are no Dracula. We aren't even Vampire Lord level.
"Unlike other vampiric diseases such as Porphyric Hemophilia and Sanguinare Vampiris, vampires of the Noxiphilic Sanguivoria strain are not weakened by daylight, but are instead strengthened during the night. Vampires of this strain can undergo a complete blood transfusion ritual known as the Rite of the Scion to become Scions, a more powerful version of a vampire. The Rite of the Scion is also necessary for a Soul Shriven to become a vampire."
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Noxiphilic_Sanguivoria_(disease)#Noxiphilic_Sanguivoria
Sooooo maybe eso vampires can still look good and don't have to be filthy pleb vampires that look like bloated corpses.
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Slack✭✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.
But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.
... which is why Verandis can hide it...
Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.
And on top of that list is.
-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot VampiresPeople have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?
Yes and when you are well fed you also decrease your vamp stage no? And you also look more than a human than a zombie on meth or not?
Why lore? - it's good for making money and to satisfy the RP crowd.
No idea what you want from me. If it is trying to be annoying, you definitely made it, with that picture and putting "bruh" in it
A stage one vamp should look mortal. If you disagree, I'd like to hear why.
Because you are already cursed / infected / or whatever, and not fully human anymore.
Anyway, now I want to try to create a vamp that doesn't look like a meth zombie even with a stage 4 course
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✭✭RainfeatherUK wrote: »The current look is fine. Altering it is a waste of resources imo.
If something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Not everyone finds it as ugly or bad as you claim either. Personally like how some of my characters look at stage four with various customization's.
So um yeah. Shove your change ideas back wherever you pulled them from thanks.
I was waiting for that one moron to get triggered upon reading something that he doesn't agree with ^:P
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✭✭✭✭I'm fine with the way my vamp looks! I just wish she had better manners at the 'dinner table'!
I wouldn't be against a 'hide vampirism' option for those who want it but I don't want to change their appearance except to add fangs. What is a vampire without fangs?!!
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.
But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.
... which is why Verandis can hide it...
Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.
And on top of that list is.
-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot VampiresPeople have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?
Yes and when you are well fed you also decrease your vamp stage no? And you also look more than a human than a zombie on meth or not?
Why lore? - it's good for making money and to satisfy the RP crowd.
No idea what you want from me. If it is trying to be annoying, you definitely made it, with that picture and putting "bruh" in it
A stage one vamp should look mortal. If you disagree, I'd like to hear why.
Because you are already cursed / infected / or whatever, and not fully human anymore.
Anyway, now I want to try to create a vamp that doesn't look like a meth zombie even with a stage 4 course
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✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »DocFrost72 wrote: »People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood
If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.
But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.
... which is why Verandis can hide it...
Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.
And on top of that list is.
-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot VampiresPeople have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.
Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.
And no need to bring up Verandis now
Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?
Yes and when you are well fed you also decrease your vamp stage no? And you also look more than a human than a zombie on meth or not?
Why lore? - it's good for making money and to satisfy the RP crowd.
No idea what you want from me. If it is trying to be annoying, you definitely made it, with that picture and putting "bruh" in it
A stage one vamp should look mortal. If you disagree, I'd like to hear why.
Because you are already cursed / infected / or whatever, and not fully human anymore.
Anyway, now I want to try to create a vamp that doesn't look like a meth zombie even with a stage 4 course
What do you say to multiple accounts of lore that support a well fed (stage one) vamp blending into society, then?
I too find it quite immersive that the player ( who is a respected citizen of tamriel most days ) does not even have the ability to hide his vampirism and is not exposed for what he truly is.
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✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »I too find it quite immersive that the player ( who is a respected citizen of tamriel most days ) does not even have the ability to hide his vampirism and is not exposed for what he truly is.
Ha! Maybe it's the whole "King Joffrey" situation at work. Everyone knows he's a incest child, but nobody talks about the elephant in the room. Everyone knows I'm a vampire, but they never address it to my face ;P2 -
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✭Honestly all I really want for my vamps is for their tattoos and makeup not to fade to freakin oblivion. Thats bothered me since launch.Member of the Old GuardMother of the Byte FamilyVyle Byte||Ivana Byte||Vyible Byte||Hakate Vampler Former EMPRESS BWB||Haan Zolo {Retired} (He swung first)||Lunari ||Wardyn Chalyk Tahno||Dirti Dianah||Bonnie||
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✭✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Ectheliontnacil wrote: »@TheMasterPretty sure the whole "tearing blood out forcibly through magical telekinesis" thing isn't canon. At least not for normal feeding. Only the player feeds like this in the game, despite the book on our strain clearly indicating that it is the most common of the current era. It looks idiotic, doesn't make a single bit of sense, and completely defeats the purpose of a vampire's stealthy nature. It's really the only thing I can't stand about vampires in this game.
So, while I like vampires the way they are, I'm in full support of players being given fangs. While they're at it, they need to completely change the way feeding works. It's horribly designed. Let us give actual bites
Yes!
I want to feed on sleeping npcs, not with this weird blood beam theyve got going on!
Blade of Woe style bites. Animations. Before DB DLC I'd have said it'd be a pipe dream.
I might be willing to actually kill for this. Like most, I HATE the ridiculous feeding animation!PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!2 -
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That must be itEctheliontnacil wrote: »I too find it quite immersive that the player ( who is a respected citizen of tamriel most days ) does not even have the ability to hide his vampirism and is not exposed for what he truly is.
Ha! Maybe it's the whole "King Joffrey" situation at work. Everyone knows he's a incest child, but nobody talks about the elephant in the room. Everyone knows I'm a vampire, but they never address it to my face ;P
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MarzAttakz✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »I'm fine with the way my vamp looks! I just wish she had better manners at the 'dinner table'!
I wouldn't be against a 'hide vampirism' option for those who want it but I don't want to change their appearance except to add fangs. What is a vampire without fangs?!!
@Hippie4927
So a subtle colour adjustment (for some reason your skin doesn't have as much of a purple tint as my vampires) and some post-processing...
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✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
LOLS no he doesn't brah. He only looks normal when he is using his Illusion powers to be sexy for Mena. His true appearance looks like this:
and this:
There is NOTHING "normal" about that ;P
You did forget this pic
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✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
LOLS no he doesn't brah. He only looks normal when he is using his Illusion powers to be sexy for Mena. His true appearance looks like this:
and this:
There is NOTHING "normal" about that ;P
You did forget this pic
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AlMcFly✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »You did forget this pic
That version of Gary Oldman was implied by the person I replied to, thus didn't require posting. I also explained in-depth why that "version" is not the true form of Dracula in the movie, as well as why ESO vampires don't have command over Illusion magic to that extent. But, you know, go ahead and skip reading my posts. They weren't important. /s0 -
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✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »You did forget this pic
That version of Gary Oldman was implied by the person I replied to, thus didn't require posting. I also explained in-depth why that "version" is not the true form of Dracula in the movie, as well as why ESO vampires don't have command over Illusion magic to that extent. But, you know, go ahead and skip reading my posts. They weren't important. /s
I read your comment. This lore is completely different to tes-lore and there are a number of examples that would suggest that vampires are able to hide their vampirism by feeding. (In skyrkm, when affected by vampirism the player needs to feed regularly to avoid detection, unless hes a vampire lord).
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✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »This lore is completely different to tes-lore
*HIS* posting this picture of Gary Oldman has been made irrelevant by your argument.
Edit: Fixed haha.
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LolEctheliontnacil wrote: »This lore is completely different to tes-lore
Your posting this picture of Gary Oldman has been made irrelevant by your own argument.
I didnt post the picture, get yo facts straight ^^!
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✭Maybe you do appear normal to everyone else and that is why NPCs don't react to you. The Illusion just doesn't work on you so you see your true self and others who are affected.
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✭✭✭✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »@JesQu
Too many hours, and I don't want to see them wasted just because I am a vampire
Then don't be a vampire and problem solved...
It's pretty much mandatory because of the buffs it gives.
I wish vampirism wasn't tied to gameplay and was purely an RP choice.Edited by MLGProPlayer on August 1, 2017 8:14PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thatlaurachick wrote: »From the large number of vampires I see walking around in Nordic Bathing Towels, I'd say people like the way vamps look.
Vampires are insanely OP. Free resource recovery is very valuable, hence why 90% of players in the game are vamps. I don't think it has much to do with people liking the apperance.Edited by MLGProPlayer on August 1, 2017 8:11PM0
