Better looking vampires!

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

@Ceridwynne

Ceridwynne wrote: »

I just wished they toned the looks down just a little. My nightblade was a vampire for a little while and I hated how she looked. Once she leveled it all the way I cured her.

It was really immersion breaking for me. Why was this obviously dead monster allowed to go about her business in towns surrounded by guards? And seriously, nobody noticed that a black khajiit lost her spots and turned white? She is blond now so maybe the change won't be so bad.

I don't want vampires to be beautiful sparkling creatures. I just want them to be able to pass for normal at a quick glance, but to be very noticeable if someone was paying attention.

I have considered roleplaying my character as a vampire, just not infecting her. There is one strain that can only be detected by candlelight and I think that is neat.

Yup that's another reason. In skyrim for example, vampirism looks more subtle and even so townsfolk talk about your pale skin. In eso you walk around as a bloated corpse and nobody cares??!!

MarzAttakz · August 2017

I agree Twilight has ruined many generations but the "Vampires are supposed to be monsters" line should just become a meme, seriously it's getting old... If that's the case a Lycanth should only be able to use their transform during a full moon.

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Tasear · August 2017

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

This is what vamps look like in skyrim. Nothing to do with twilight.

Sexy...if only...

mkm1911a1 · August 2017

I have one vampire, but I'm in partial agreement with this post.

Imo, I think if a character is in stage one, there should be NO difference in appearance. The concept is, a well feed vampire is a healthy vampire. And like a healthy human, you look normal, and one always does.

Then, a like a human who becomes ill, we look it. "Dude, you look like sh*t."

As the vampire progresses from stage 2-4, I'm agreeable that their skin becomes more pale, the purplish veins appear, and the eyes darken. These 3 characteristics become more and more pronounced as the stage progresses.

No matter what, this concept should prevail. A healthy, well feed, vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight. A predator able to walk among it's prey.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in Skyrim didn't the NPC's attack you if you allowed yourself to be noticed as a vampire? I'd even be agreeable to having the guards attack you in ESO at stage three or four. This will give motivation to stay at stage one and a reason why looking normal is beneficial.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

@MarzAttakz

10/10 !!!!

DocFrost72 · August 2017

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

I have one vampire, but I'm in partial agreement with this post.

Imo, I think if a character is in stage one, there should be NO difference in appearance. The concept is, a well feed vampire is a healthy vampire. And like a healthy human, you look as a normal person.

Like a human, when we become unhealthy, we look it. "Dude, you look like sh*t."

As the vampire progresses from stage 2-4, I'm agreeable that their skin become more and more pale, the miscolored veins, the dark eyes. And these 3 characteristics become more and more pronounced as the stage increases.

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hind in plain sight.

^ Nailed it.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

I have one vampire, but I'm in partial agreement with this post.

Imo, I think if a character is in stage one, there should be NO difference in appearance. The concept is, a well feed vampire is a healthy vampire. And like a healthy human, you look normal, and one always does.

Then, a like a human who becomes ill, we look it. "Dude, you look like sh*t."

As the vampire progresses from stage 2-4, I'm agreeable that their skin becomes more pale, the miscolored veins, the dark eyes. And these 3 characteristics become more and more pronounced as the stage increases.

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight.

I too am in partial agreement with your post ^^.

Stage 1 no effects is another good alternative to the current state.
However stage 2-4 would remain unchanged and I don't agree with that. Atm vampirism just looks bad, and whether or not you want your vampires to be hot or frightening I don't think anyone wants them to look "bad" or "stupid" as they do now

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Nestor · August 2017

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight.

And go out in the Sun too?

brtomkin · August 2017

Vampires are monsters and should be frightening... I like these:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/frightnight/images/9/91/FrightNight-Amy.jpg

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/vampires/images/4/43/5095242-vampires.png

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/dusktilldawn/images/f/fd/Vampires.png/revision/latest?cb=20140416082450 --- (NSFW!)

brtomkin · August 2017

MarzAttakz wrote: »

I agree Twilight has ruined many generations but the "Vampires are supposed to be monsters" line should just become a meme, seriously it's getting old... If that's the case a Lycanth should only be able to use their transform during a full moon.

WHAT I COULD LIVE WITH

This image is from the movie "Van Helsing" and is really only stage 2 or 3... here is a better image:

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/van-helsing-Marishka-Triptych.jpg

ThePrinceOfBargains · August 2017

Pretty sure the whole "tearing blood out forcibly through magical telekinesis" thing isn't canon. At least not for normal feeding. Only the player feeds like this in the game, despite the book on our strain clearly indicating that it is the most common of the current era. It looks idiotic, doesn't make a single bit of sense, and completely defeats the purpose of a vampire's stealthy nature. It's really the only thing I can't stand about vampires in this game.

So, while I like vampires the way they are, I'm in full support of players being given fangs. While they're at it, they need to completely change the way feeding works. It's horribly designed. Let us give actual bites

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

Nestor wrote: »

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight.

And go out in the Sun too?

Vampires infected with the blood of lamae (which is the case for eso vampires) can go into the sun without suffering any negative consequences

DocFrost72 · August 2017

Nestor wrote: »

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight.

And go out in the Sun too?

"The most important thing to remember about sufferers of Noxiphilic Sanguivoria is that, as the name implies, they are not weakened by daylight as in other strains of vampirism, but are, instead, strengthened during the nighttime hours."

http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/noxiphilic-sanguivoria-lorebook/

So...yes

AlMcFly · August 2017

The only real problem I had were the red eyes. That was easily taken care of by Eyes of the Prophet collection item which turns them completely white. Now my character looks pretty good.

LadyNalcarya · August 2017

I agree! I especially dislike that all khajiit vampires turn white... It doesnt make any sense, after all, human vampires dont change hair color.

Chelo wrote: »

Dude you are suppose to be a monster not some glowing teenager from Twilight... Don't like it, don't be a vampire...

Yes, the pink shade of ESO vampires is nothing like Twilight, it looks more like vampire barbie dolls.

Very intimidating, yeah. Like purple clannfears.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

@TheMaster

TheMaster wrote: »

Pretty sure the whole "tearing blood out forcibly through magical telekinesis" thing isn't canon. At least not for normal feeding. Only the player feeds like this in the game, despite the book on our strain clearly indicating that it is the most common of the current era. It looks idiotic, doesn't make a single bit of sense, and completely defeats the purpose of a vampire's stealthy nature. It's really the only thing I can't stand about vampires in this game.

So, while I like vampires the way they are, I'm in full support of players being given fangs. While they're at it, they need to completely change the way feeding works. It's horribly designed. Let us give actual bites

Yes!
I want to feed on sleeping npcs, not with this weird blood beam theyve got going on!

MornaBaine · August 2017

The playerbase has been asking for a way to hide the vamp skin LITERALLY for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas continue to fall on deaf ears. The lore of TES justifies this ability. The GAME ITSELF presents several vampires that LOOK NORMAL at least part of the time. There is NO "advantage" to being able to "hide" the vampire skin in PvP. There is LITERALLY no logical reason for ZOS to keep denying players this ability. And if they'd make it a crown store Skin they'd make a freaking fortune. I am still at a loss as to why we are being ignored on this after all this time.

DocFrost72 · August 2017

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

@TheMaster

TheMaster wrote: »

Pretty sure the whole "tearing blood out forcibly through magical telekinesis" thing isn't canon. At least not for normal feeding. Only the player feeds like this in the game, despite the book on our strain clearly indicating that it is the most common of the current era. It looks idiotic, doesn't make a single bit of sense, and completely defeats the purpose of a vampire's stealthy nature. It's really the only thing I can't stand about vampires in this game.

So, while I like vampires the way they are, I'm in full support of players being given fangs. While they're at it, they need to completely change the way feeding works. It's horribly designed. Let us give actual bites

Yes!
I want to feed on sleeping npcs, not with this weird blood beam theyve got going on!

Blade of Woe style bites. Animations. Before DB DLC I'd have said it'd be a pipe dream.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

@LadyNalcarya

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

I agree! I especially dislike that all khajiit vampires turn white... It doesnt make any sense, after all, human vampires dont change hair color.

Chelo wrote: »

Dude you are suppose to be a monster not some glowing teenager from Twilight... Don't like it, don't be a vampire...

Yes, the pink shade of ESO vampires is nothing like Twilight, it looks more like vampire barbie dolls.

Very intimidating, yeah. Like purple clannfears.

That made me laugh^^

MarzAttakz · August 2017

brtomkin wrote: »

Vampires are monsters and should be frightening... I like these:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/frightnight/images/9/91/FrightNight-Amy.jpg

Dude please no, Fright Night gave me far too many nightmares when I was a kid.

brtomkin wrote: »

MarzAttakz wrote: »

I agree Twilight has ruined many generations but the "Vampires are supposed to be monsters" line should just become a meme, seriously it's getting old... If that's the case a Lycanth should only be able to use their transform during a full moon.

WHAT I COULD LIVE WITH

This image is from the movie "Van Helsing" and is really only stage 2 or 3... here is a better image:

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/van-helsing-Marishka-Triptych.jpg

Nice triptych. That I CAN live with, stages 4-5 actually look good in that image: subtly obvious, scarily sexy, most definitely a monster.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

MornaBaine wrote: »

The playerbase has been asking for a way to hide the vamp skin LITERALLY for FOUR YEARS now. Our pleas continue to fall on deaf ears. The lore of TES justifies this ability. The GAME ITSELF presents several vampires that LOOK NORMAL at least part of the time. There is NO "advantage" to being able to "hide" the vampire skin in PvP. There is LITERALLY no logical reason for ZOS to keep denying players this ability. And if they'd make it a crown store Skin they'd make a freaking fortune. I am still at a loss as to why we are being ignored on this after all this time.

I don't get it either, the only thing we can do is make enough noise in the forums until they change it. So keep them comments coming!!!

Slack · August 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood

If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.

But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.

... which is why Verandis can hide it...

Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.

And on top of that list is.

-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot Vampires

Cpt_Teemo · August 2017

Chelo wrote: »

Dude you are suppose to be a monster not some glowing teenager from Twilight... Don't like it, don't be a vampire...

Gary Oldman looked pretty normal as Dracula

Blacksmoke · August 2017

Oh geez here we go again

Dracofyre · August 2017

i prefer this society of vampire class archtypes, they are different kinds, "The Kindreds"

they have african clans for vipers, primals, and shamanic cults
they make very interesting clans from europe and mideasterns, and asian.

DocFrost72 · August 2017

Slack wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood

If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.

But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.

... which is why Verandis can hide it...

Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.

And on top of that list is.

-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot Vampires

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?

SilverIce58 · August 2017

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

@Insomnia rex

Insomnia rex wrote: »

What would fangs be for, you are literally magically drinking blood through the air? Was the same in MW; different in Skyrim? Whats the lore on this?

In skyrim you bite their neck and you have fangs. ^^

Did not know this! But from what i just read (like 5 minutes ago), there are nine different strains in the lore, which the fanged ones are Sanguinare Vampiris created by Molag Baal, whereas the TESO vamps sound like Noxiphilic Sanguivoria? Who get cursed by Maara/ cured by Arkay or not?

Noxiphilic Sanguivoria is given by Lamae Beolfag, who, yes technically was "given" to her by Molag Bal(in the same way a hooker might give someone crabs), and it's not "cursed by Mara/cured by Arkay" its more along the lines of "hate both Molag Bal and Arkay"

Also there's like 18 different known bloodlines of vampirism, but only 3 strains (Noxiphilic Sanguivoria, Porphyric Hemophilia, and Sanguinare Vampiris)

Slack · August 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood

If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.

But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.

... which is why Verandis can hide it...

Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.

And on top of that list is.

-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot Vampires

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?

Yes and when you are well fed you also decrease your vamp stage no? And you also look more than a human than a zombie on meth or not?

Why lore? - it's good for making money and to satisfy the RP crowd.

No idea what you want from me. If it is trying to be annoying, you definitely made it, with that picture and putting "bruh" in it

Ectheliontnacil · August 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Immortal_Blood

If you're going to spout lore, at least have correct lore. When a strain is so good at camouflage that a vampire hunter can't tell who you are time after time, it may be because they're great at hiding if well fed.

But yeah, twilight sucks and is not actual vampire lore. I'd much rather base vamps of ESO lore.

... which is why Verandis can hide it...

Lore? As if I'd care about Lore. Lol.
Just getting tired of reading the same few things again and again.

And on top of that list is.

-Dragons
-Nerf x
-Hot Vampires

Slack wrote: »

People have been watching too much Twilight-like crap in the past few years I guess.

Vampires are undead and thats also what you look in ESO, don't know how vamps in Skyrim look but in Oblivion they were even uglier than here.

And no need to bring up Verandis now

Vampires don't look like undead in lore when well fed. Glad you don't care about lore, but I'm going to go ahead and say ZOS does. Heck, if we're letting lore slide, why even have it?

Yup there's really no reason in lore why vamps have to look awful! They just did a sloppy job

mkm1911a1 · August 2017

Nestor wrote: »

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

But, a healthy, well feed vampire should look like any other character. It gives the ability to blend in, walk among the people, and hide in plain sight.

And go out in the Sun too?

As far as the sun goes, since this is a game rather than a fictional story and needs to be playable, I would say the sun at stage 1 the has no effect. Stages to through for you could say that during the daytime hours (06:00-18:00), the negative effects of each stage has a 5% increase for each stage. This only further incentivizes a player to remain healthy and well-fed.