Sharpened Nerf

MrBetadine · July 2017

DEFEDNDING

toxiclies wrote: »

Hey guys!

So I know that Sharpened is getting nerfed and I was wondering what is going to be the best trait after that?

What is the trait everyone is going to go for?
I made a poll just because it would be easier to see what everyone would use.

i'm healer

humpalicous · July 2017

INFUSED

I'm torn between sharpened and infused.

In the end, I think Infused offers a lot of choices when it comes to customizing your build, which is why I chose it. But, it wouldn't surprise me if Sharpened is still BiS after the initial testing post-patch.

Then again, it also depends on your group and the fight at hand. Has the group reached 18.2 in penetration? Good, then Sharpened is useless and Infused will provide a bigger buff.

Is your group lacking, or you lacking, in penetration? Then you might need that Sharpened trait on your weapon.

Then again.. (haha yeah, then again), you can apply the Crusher enchant on an Infused weapon and have a high uptime of the enchantment, almost equaling the Sharpened trait.

What I want to say is this:

The BiS trait for you and your group will depend on the circumstances of your build and situation. Sorry for the disoriented post

overclocker303b14_ESO · July 2017

INFUSED

I think precise + infused and precise on back is currently best for pve stam dps, BUT...

1. I think they are going to nerf sets like TFS and Spriggans on Monday.
2. Given that, for PVE stamina dps your options will be:

1 infused + 1 precise or 2 precise (front bar)
1 precise bow
lover mundus

or

2 sharp (front bar) + kraghs
1 sharp bow
shadow mundus

And have a feeling they will give you about the same results.

Bosco916 · July 2017

NIRNHONED

Nirnhoned>>>@ 15% up from 11% damage increase.

Olupajmibanan · July 2017

PvE - precise, infused
PvP - sticking with sharpened, but I used to have defending 1h on my magDK on back bar and will surely switch it to nirnhoned for big heals
PvE resto staves - sticking with precise
PvP resto staves - I dunno on this one, defending was just too good but I don't know how it will perform as from now

DeHei · July 2017

NIRNHONED

PvP i will prefer nirnhoned vMSA weapons, i think.

PvE i will prefer precise vMSA weapons or nirnhoned too..
Maybe charged with soloplaying like vMSA

With other weapons i think infused with weapon/spelldamageenchant or damageenchant will the way to go

Nestor · July 2017

toxiclies wrote: »

oh okay, everyone I talk to about it makes it seem that no one will use it anymore, at least that's what I got from it haha

You need to stop talking to the Min Maxers and the Sheeple that follow them. 1% difference in stats does not matter. 5% difference in stats does not matter. Heck, for most players, I bet 10% does not matter, but it can for some.

runagate · July 2017

SHARPENED

Nerf should never be sharpened. It makes it dangerous instead of soft foam fun.

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Bobby_V_Rockit · July 2017

NIRNHONED

I just want Nirnhoned to be awesome.

Septimus_Magna · July 2017

PRICISE

PVE - precise and shadow mundus

I will try out a couple setups in terms of gear. For magicka builds Spinners gives a lot of spell pen which would compesate for the loss of sharpened.

Dubhliam · July 2017

SHARPENED

Yes, sharpened will get nerfed.

Yes, it will still be competitive after the nerf.

It was THAT powerful for over a year.

Nerfing it was the best thing that could happen for trait diversity.

phaneub17_ESO · July 2017

TRAINING

I AM NOT PREPARED... Wait, wrong game.

DeHei · July 2017

NIRNHONED

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

PVE - precise and shadow mundus

I will try out a couple setups in terms of gear. For magicka builds Spinners gives a lot of spell pen which would compesate for the loss of sharpened.

I think another option is spending some CP in penetration

Azurya · July 2017

TRAINING

training is always good

and hey, who cares, they nerf and nerf, just that 10.000.000 players go and get themselves new gear.....

this whole nerfing(sorry they call it balancing, muhahahah) is just a Keep_busy_therapy
so nobody complains about the lagging, the endless loading screens, crashes,
because
All are BUSY, finding, building their builds according to the new stats

if they put that much effort in balancing their server, we all would have less problems

tunepunk · July 2017

Hard to say. Picking a trait to fit your build/playstyle will be a bit more interesting now. I think i will use different on different chars builds really.

I have one 2h stamsorc i mostly use for solo pledges.
+ Nirnhoned add some damage and will buff the Damageshield in brawler, so that's interesting.
+ Precice will make me crit from surge more often so that's interesting.
+ Infused will make the weapon enchants hit a bit harder so that's also interesting

On my magplar, I'm not really sure yet.
+ Probably sharpened, precise, or who knows....

Malmai · July 2017

SHARPENED

Dont know but stamina is not in good position, magicka will do fine. LA passives...

redshirt_49 · July 2017

SHARPENED

Just because it's taking a hit doesn't suddenly mean you'll need less penetration. Especially where PvP is concerned, might have to sink a few more points into piercing, but overall there is no need to switch out your gear if you were running sharpened before. Personally, I always ran either sharp or precise and I doubt this will change with this relatively minor change.

Bromburak · July 2017

Since you still can reach 18k in vet and trial content very easily, pen was and is pretty much overrated.
VMA is the only argument, if this is important to you, go for it combined with mundus or whatever you think fits best in your VMA builds.

Else you can simply ignore pen as usual.

Septimus_Magna · July 2017

PRICISE

DeHei wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

PVE - precise and shadow mundus

I will try out a couple setups in terms of gear. For magicka builds Spinners gives a lot of spell pen which would compesate for the loss of sharpened.

I think another option is spending some CP in penetration

Im not sure if the Spell Erosion CP star is front loaded like the rest. If so, its probably not ideal to put many points in there bc you miss out on other stats.

I was already running something like 21 points into Spell Erosion with a sharpened weapon to get full spell pen. Luckily we have some math professors on this forum so I can simply enter my stats and see what the best CP distribution is.

jrgray93 · July 2017

I can't wait for everyone to use precise in PVP so that my 3.2k crit resist can make their damage a joke.

STEVIL · July 2017

PRICISE

Even when sharpened was top for G/T DPS, i preferred precise because for most (solo) play due to its gains for healing and things that trigger off crits outweighing for me the DPS gains.

Rickter · July 2017

from pts testing results, Sharpened still. with shadow mundus

but it depends on the build. infused lover is going to bea good combo too.

Insandros · July 2017

out of 10 posts you get 10 different points of view and choices, i say, wait for the patch, grab all your stuff, go hit a training dummy, with your own rotations, own build and own gameplay style and see. That'S what i'm gonna do, trying it yourself is the best way.

Smmokkee · July 2017

NIRNHONED

I still plan on using sharpened and defending weapons for pvp

Bobby_V_Rockit · July 2017

NIRNHONED

Hopefully with the adjustments to penetration and the introduction of a corresponding mundus stone, we'll get a tooltip on the character sheet for spell and phys pen on consoles. Its annoying having it (and crit damage multiplier for that matter) being a hidden stat.

Strider_Roshin · July 2017

INFUSED

jrgray93 wrote: »

I can't wait for everyone to use precise in PVP so that my 3.2k crit resist can make their damage a joke.

I really doubt people are going to use precise in PvP. Infused+Oblivion and Nirnhoned are more probable.

teladoy · July 2017

SHARPENED

Now all Traits have been adjusted. That means that sharpened is not gonna win in every situation.

What i find interesting now is that the mundus stones will play a bigger role now. That means that if for example you used to have the mundus stone The Thief and penetration in the weapon, now you can switch the things and have precise in the weapon and pick the new Mundus stone that gives armor penetration.

TheUrbanWizard · July 2017

Rickter wrote: »

from pts testing results, Sharpened still. with shadow mundus

but it depends on the build. infused lover is going to bea good combo too.

With sharp and shadow where's the crit coming from?

ookami007 · July 2017

PRICISE

It's going to be precise or infused since Thief Mundus is also getting nerfed, many crit builds will go with at least one precise is my guess. In some things, Infused already outpaces sharpened, so it's an obvious choice as well.

Rickter · July 2017

Insandros wrote: »

out of 10 posts you get 10 different points of view and choices, i say, wait for the patch, grab all your stuff, go hit a training dummy, with your own rotations, own build and own gameplay style and see. That'S what i'm gonna do, trying it yourself is the best way.

its almost like the devs succeeded in giving players more choices.