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[Exploit] I Can Still Gap-Close Into Keeps
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notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »I will say it again, make the inside of a keep that has not been breached a death or health drain zone to enemy players.
Will also stop the rash of players hiding after a keep flips ganking you in your own keep.
No, thats an interesting strategy imo. It isnt hard to counter by searching the keep (like many already do)2 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just want to mention that there is still issues with Silver Bolts with the pull morph and Dragon Knight chains. You can pull yourself up by the front door if you simply jump up on the ledge, then off and attack the mage guards. Make it so these abilities cant even be cast on npc's anymore.PS4 NA DC1 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I just want to mention that there is still issues with Silver Bolts with the pull morph and Dragon Knight chains. You can pull yourself up by the front door if you simply jump up on the ledge, then off and attack the mage guards. Make it so these abilities cant even be cast on npc's anymore.
Needs a fix, not the right fix1 -
ofSunhold✭✭✭✭✭ParaNostram wrote: »Personally I enjoyed it back when DKs could leap into keeps, I mean using your ult to scale onto the walls and cause some havoc was pretty neat IMHO.
One of the first things that happened to me when I started to PvP. Got leaped! Right up on the damn wall!
I was hooked.
Good times! Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.2 -
Meld777✭✭✭✭✭Is this really news? As an active ganker Nightblade (active=people are scared of you and run away), it happens to me multiple times a day. Reported it before. Kind of annoying to end up alone in an enemy castle with so many enemy NPCs. Unless of course you wanna cheese caps. Not that all the trouble gives you more AP than ganking 2 people though.Maelstrom Arena Champion | Undaunted | Fighters Guild Victor
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vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ParaNostram wrote: »Personally I enjoyed it back when DKs could leap into keeps, I mean using your ult to scale onto the walls and cause some havoc was pretty neat IMHO.
One of the first things that happened to me when I started to PvP. Got leaped! Right up on the damn wall!
I was hooked. Good times!
I usually scream and fall off the wall. My better half thinks it is really funny for some reason...2 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭There needs to be an invisible zone extending about 3 ft. out in front of every keep door. It despawns if the door is destroyed. It flags any player of the same faction as "Nearfriendlydoor"
Meanwhile, change the code on Ambush that if it casts successfully on a target flagged "Nearfriendlydoor" it teleports to the center of the area of the 3ft. zone (not the enemy target) then does the damage to the original target.
This would act as a form of lag tolerance that needs to be in place specifically for Ambush due to it's lack of travel time.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.3 -
Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Please fix this, ZOS. It is still incredibly easy to gap-close into keeps and outposts in Cyrodiil, and is something that players can take advantage of. If you want further information, I'll be more than happy to go into detail in a PM about what I know about it. All that I ask is that it hopefully can be patched in a timely fashion. I also can show you devs a few more malicious things that you can do in Cyrodiil, that aren't intended but can be exploited with relative ease. Once again, just let me know in a PM. And I'll be more than happy to spill everything I know to you all. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Side Note:
No, I will NOT teach anyone how to do it (outside of devs). Nor will I go on a spree of entering keeps that my alliance does not own. Why? Because I'd be a hypocrite in going about cheesing something, when I can always be seen ranting about how much people do nefarious things to gain an advantage in PvP. So all of you tryhards looking to know how can look elsewhere. I'm not teaching you squat.
Edit: Video removed. I'll give you the video link in a PM, once asked for it @ZOS.
Keep at it. I've been saying healing ward is broken since march 6th. They are just now going to look at it. So give it some time.1 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please fix this, ZOS. It is still incredibly easy to gap-close into keeps and outposts in Cyrodiil, and is something that players can take advantage of. If you want further information, I'll be more than happy to go into detail in a PM about what I know about it. All that I ask is that it hopefully can be patched in a timely fashion. I also can show you devs a few more malicious things that you can do in Cyrodiil, that aren't intended but can be exploited with relative ease. Once again, just let me know in a PM. And I'll be more than happy to spill everything I know to you all. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Side Note:
No, I will NOT teach anyone how to do it (outside of devs). Nor will I go on a spree of entering keeps that my alliance does not own. Why? Because I'd be a hypocrite in going about cheesing something, when I can always be seen ranting about how much people do nefarious things to gain an advantage in PvP. So all of you tryhards looking to know how can look elsewhere. I'm not teaching you squat.
Edit: Video removed. I'll give you the video link in a PM, once asked for it @ZOS.
Keep at it. I've been saying healing ward is broken since march 6th. They are just now going to look at it. So give it some time.
Damn! March 6th, bruh? Bruh!
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Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Please fix this, ZOS. It is still incredibly easy to gap-close into keeps and outposts in Cyrodiil, and is something that players can take advantage of. If you want further information, I'll be more than happy to go into detail in a PM about what I know about it. All that I ask is that it hopefully can be patched in a timely fashion. I also can show you devs a few more malicious things that you can do in Cyrodiil, that aren't intended but can be exploited with relative ease. Once again, just let me know in a PM. And I'll be more than happy to spill everything I know to you all. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Side Note:
No, I will NOT teach anyone how to do it (outside of devs). Nor will I go on a spree of entering keeps that my alliance does not own. Why? Because I'd be a hypocrite in going about cheesing something, when I can always be seen ranting about how much people do nefarious things to gain an advantage in PvP. So all of you tryhards looking to know how can look elsewhere. I'm not teaching you squat.
Edit: Video removed. I'll give you the video link in a PM, once asked for it @ZOS.
Keep at it. I've been saying healing ward is broken since march 6th. They are just now going to look at it. So give it some time.
Damn! March 6th, bruh? Bruh!
I know right. But better late than never. Got a few more bugs that need addressed. But will have to make a video of them. Won't happen during the event lol.
I watched a couple of people Getting into keeps dethrone me a while back. One blue in particular would always be inside a keep. He is also very well known. I just let it be hoping it would resolve itself. Glad to see it being looked at though.
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MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
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Right, if course they won't. But if they ever did, I basically outlined above the logic/pseudo-code resulting in making Ambush function somewhat like DK Leap (targets area of the unit, not unit) but only within a very narrow context, so as to not ruin how Ambush is used 99% of the time.Edited by MisterBigglesworth on July 25, 2017 9:58PMReally we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭notimetocare wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I just want to mention that there is still issues with Silver Bolts with the pull morph and Dragon Knight chains. You can pull yourself up by the front door if you simply jump up on the ledge, then off and attack the mage guards. Make it so these abilities cant even be cast on npc's anymore.
Needs a fix, not the right fix
it would solve the issue once in for all. i think not letting these 2 seriously under utilised abilities not cast-able on these npc's in keeps is fine and wont be an issue.
like are you serious? someones going to go onto the forums and be like my chains or silver leash doesn't work on guards that are on front doors or inner keep front door second level?... its hardly even a problem.PS4 NA DC0 -
BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭Same happened to me, one of my guild mates who is dc accidently ambushed himself into our keep when he tried to gank me
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i know i'm in the minority on this - but, i liked the occasional interloper whom would appear on the walls...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place3 -
Evergnar✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »Personally, I wish there were ways into keeps like DAoC, but I cant say Id know how to balance it for eso besides a slow building/moving ladder that would have limited use and some announcement it is going up
After three years and still not "fixed" that's kinda where I'm at with it. Just make it a thing to get into keeps. Throw in some new skills that can counter it or something. Idk how zos would balance it either but its not exactly balanced now anyway.0 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Will add that if someone use Unrelenting Grip on a person at the same point as the person use a keep door they will get teleported back out again to the casting DK. Which is basically the opposite of what a lot of people do with their teleport strikes to get into keeps.2 -
ofSunhold✭✭✭✭✭i know i'm in the minority on this - but, i liked the occasional interloper whom would appear on the walls...
Agree, keeps everybody on their toes.
The trouble of course is when you have a full raid all doing that, which is what ruins a lot of cool stuff in PvP.Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.3 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭paulsimonps wrote: »Will add that if someone use Unrelenting Grip on a person at the same point as the person use a keep door they will get teleported back out again to the casting DK. Which is basically the opposite of what a lot of people do with their teleport strikes to get into keeps.
Are you serious!? You can pull people out of doors? LOL! Bruh! Oh no, bruh. Now I must go try this. 0 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭paulsimonps wrote: »Will add that if someone use Unrelenting Grip on a person at the same point as the person use a keep door they will get teleported back out again to the casting DK. Which is basically the opposite of what a lot of people do with their teleport strikes to get into keeps.
Are you serious!? You can pull people out of doors? LOL! Bruh! Oh no, bruh. Now I must go try this.
Oh yea it happens all the time
at the moment they think they are safe.... JOINK, back out in the thick of it and most likely nuked down. 1 -
NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice to have this fixed but it will just get swept under the run. That is why I hope this happens to me every time I go into a keep. I want everyone in the game to do this and make it such a massive problem that ZoS is forced to do something. At this point it seems to have turned into the animation cancelling unintended feature. So NB's get to using this "feature" and cause all kinds of mayhem. My future death recap will be fun to read standing at the wayshrine"it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor1 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity Manager@Ch4mpTW Would you mind sending me the video privately so we can take a look? Thanks!Gina Bruno
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Jailbirdy✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@Ch4mpTW Would you mind sending me the video privately so we can take a look? Thanks!
She means "of your game footage" for the bug you describe.Disclaimer: The statements and information from this account are for entertainment & informational purposes only. Any interpretation, implied or otherwise does not constitute negligence on any part of this forum posting.19 -
John_1999✭✭✭I can tell you how to get into keeps with gap closers, just use your gapcloser, if an enemy is about to enter a door.
This happens to me in the first hour of playing this patch. It happens a lot. you can even pull out ppl with chain, if they are already isnside. You just have to time it right. that's it.
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@Ch4mpTW Would you mind sending me the video privately so we can take a look? Thanks!
She means "of your game footage" for the bug you describe.
Hahaha! Nice work.
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AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Reported a user the other day that used this exploit. Hopefully that gets looked at tooGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 500 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »I will say it again, make the inside of a keep that has not been breached a death or health drain zone to enemy players.
Will also stop the rash of players hiding after a keep flips ganking you in your own keep.
This risks wiping entire groups by repairing the outer wall behind them, which would be ridiculous. I have been in groups that have had this happen and we held out long enough for reinforcements to re-breach the wall and eventually take the keep. You shouldn't be punished for surviving.3
