Welp, It Happened Yet Again

  • Demycilian
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    Animation canceling has been an important part of ESO's combat system since way back during the alpha and beta tests, and it's the reason the combat feels fast paced compared to other similar games. Whether you are aware or not, you are already using animation canceling. Whenever you block quickly, dodge roll or swap weapons, you are canceling the previous animation.

    There is a bit of a learning curve and it might be nice for new players to get some sort of tutorial, but to remove animation canceling at this point would result in a completely different sort of game. If it were suddenly removed, the combat would feel incredibly slow for everyone, in both PVE and PVP.

    Even players who have never heard of animation canceling would notice a massive slowdown in the pace of combat, because every time they use an ability they would no longer be able to light attack, roll dodge, block or swap weapons until the previous animation completes. Nobody would be happy with that kind of change.


    But of course we would be happy with that change. Else people wouldnt continue to bring up the AC exploitations as a problem that is destroying their fun in this game.

    Kindly, speak for yourself.
  • Waffennacht
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    @leepalmer95 you're wrong, SA starts at 34, health desync occurs, look at the resource bars,

    34 attack starts
    35 message for CC break - ALSO STAM BAR DISAPPEARED (desync and dead)
    36 body flops over

    Stop the video at 35 seconds and you see the bars are empty

    That's two GCD or 1 second passage of time between abilities, or 2 seconds if you include the ability time

    Ambush occurs during GCD that ticks during travel time,

    Edit: Order correction-
    Ambush
    First GCD tick Incap, Selene, LA
    Second GCD, Surprise attack LA

    5 abilities within two GCD
    Edited by Waffennacht on July 24, 2017 1:43AM
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    @leepalmer95 you're wrong, SA starts at 34, health desync occurs, look at the resource bars,

    34 attack starts
    35 message for CC break - ALSO STAM BAR DISAPPEARED (desync and dead)
    36 body flops over

    Stop the video at 35 seconds and you see the bars are empty

    That's two GCD or 1 second passage of time between abilities, or 2 seconds if you include the ability time

    Ambush occurs during GCD that ticks during travel time,

    Ambush
    First GCD tick, Selene, LA, Incap
    Second GCD, LA, Surprise Attack

    5 abilities within two GCD

    You called it beautifully. I didn't even catch that 2nd GCD. +1 to you.
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Why would he LA after the ambush wouldnt that waste the 20% damage bonus from ambush?
    Edited by Fur_like_snow on July 24, 2017 1:41AM
  • Waffennacht
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    Why would he LA after the ambush wouldnt that waste the 20% damage bonus from ambush?

    You're right, typo on my part, wrote the order wrong:

    Ambush
    Incap, Selene, LA
    Surprise, LA

    Ambush travel time
    First GCD Incap, Selene, LA
    Second GCD, Surprise, LA

    I edited my post to reflect the correct order
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  • Mondini
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Mondini wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.

    Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.

    [snip] Seriously. It's not that hard to predict a combo. Oh someone just ambushed me, I bet they will use incap next, better make sure im dodging that.
    Oh a warden is coming, better make sure im stood behind them so I dont get hit by their burst.

    So I need to L2P things I can't see and react to. Lmao. Ok. :D

    You're like those folks in the MVC2 community who used to say, "You should be able to defend yourself against infinite combos. L2P scrub! You should be able to predict the Magneto infinite upon getting hit with that first connect they made that put you in a hit-stun." Lol. FGC Shoryuken forums, is that you?

    Yeah, its called A READ.
    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on May 9, 2026 12:33PM
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