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Ch4mpTW
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Got hit by 5 different attacks within a split second. Wasn't lagging in the slightest, but animation cancelling allowed it. Call it L2P all you want, or that I'm whining and complaining. I really don't give a damn, to be honest. Animation cancelling needs to be removed. Gone. Done with. There isn't jack s*** skillful about blinding multiple attacks in with 1 another, in order for your opponent to not respond to it. Nothing at all. Do I AC? All the time. Does it make it right? Hell no. It shouldn't even exist in the first damn place.
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Thogard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The fact that you don't even know what animation cancelling is is why people tell you that you need to learn to play. Animation cancelling in no way allows you to bypass the global cooldown. All it does is prevent you from seeing animations...
And whether or not you see an animation doesn't affect what actually hits you... animations are just... cosmetic...
If someone is bypassing the global cooldown then they are hacking. Animation cancelling has nothing to do with it.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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andreasranasen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The fact that you don't even know what animation cancelling is is why people tell you that you need to learn to play. Animation cancelling in no way allows you to bypass the global cooldown. All it does is prevent you from seeing animations...
And whether or not you see an animation doesn't affect what actually hits you... animations are just... cosmetic...
If someone is bypassing the global cooldown then they are hacking. Animation cancelling has nothing to do with it.
EXACTLY why it should be removed.Edited by andreasranasen on July 23, 2017 6:43AM#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
- Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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Chakei✭✭✭Removing animation canceling isn't gong to help you much. The attacks are still going to come at the same time. The cooldowns are still in place. The horse is dead, people need to stop beating it.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS wouldn't dare touch something that would drive the PvP community completely bonkers if messed with.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.10 -
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✭The only thing that needs to be fixed with animations is snipe spam desync. Countless times I've been in a fight, not in lag, when suddenly my resources disappear and i run around for 3 seconds while the main opponent is still trying to attack, wondering why tf they can't.
Death recap, 5 snipes. Technically, i should have 5 seconds to react to that right? It NEVER happens if there is a psn inject or light/ Heavy attack grin the bow user. And i mean never.3 -
fastolfv_ESO✭✭✭✭✭animation canceling is when you clip one animation for a second 5 at once is flat out cheating, and yet you could record hours of it in any given night in cyro and zenimax will do nothing. I have a good hour of just sorcs swapping bars and as the bar swaps 3 shields and a streak go off at once2 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.18 -
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✭✭✭✭✭fastolfv_ESO wrote: »animation canceling is when you clip one animation for a second 5 at once is flat out cheating, and yet you could record hours of it in any given night in cyro and zenimax will do nothing. I have a good hour of just sorcs swapping bars and as the bar swaps 3 shields and a streak go off at once
Facts. It's not just on PC either. It's very much so on PS4. I can upload so many videos of people bypassing the global cooldown of things, but guess what. Rather than them getting their silly 72hrs. in-game ban, I'll catch a forum account suspension for naming and shaming.
There's so much shady behavior that runs rampant on PS4, it's ridiculous. Yeah we may not have CE users and macros (though people can run XIM and kb/m and maybe macro), we have all types of things that's dishonest going on. So many untouched and unfixed things that people know and exploit. And there are hackers and cheaters on console.
I could put soooooo many "famed" and "well-respected" players on blast from conversations they've had with me, and of video footage I've captured. So many people. I'm just saving it all for the moment I finally am on my final straw with ESO (not break-wise but to the point I request even my forum account be deleted), and then I'm uploading it all here. Screens, videos, etc. I'll REALLY give people a reason for people to hate me on that day, and flame me on that day when they see a lot of folks they feel are elite or good folks doing sketchy stuff.Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 23, 2017 7:12AM2 -
Cocorocho✭✭✭fastolfv_ESO wrote: »animation canceling is when you clip one animation for a second 5 at once is flat out cheating, and yet you could record hours of it in any given night in cyro and zenimax will do nothing. I have a good hour of just sorcs swapping bars and as the bar swaps 3 shields and a streak go off at once
Facts. It's not just on PC either. It's very much so on PS4. I can upload so many videos of people bypassing the global cooldown of things, but guess what. Rather than them getting their silly 72hrs. in-game ban, I'll catch a forum account suspension for naming and shaming.
There's so much shady behavior that runs rampant on PS4, it's ridiculous. Yeah we may not have CE users and macros (though people can run XIM and kb/m and maybe macro), we have all types of things that's dishonest going on. So many untouched and unfixed things that people know and exploit. And there are hackers and cheaters on console.
I could put soooooo many "famed" and "well-respected" players on blast from conversations they've had with me, and of video footage I've captured. So many people. I'm just saving it all for the moment I finally am on my final straw with ESO (not break-wise but to the point I request even my forum account be deleted), and then I'm uploading it all here. Screens, videos, etc.
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✭✭✭✭✭fastolfv_ESO wrote: »animation canceling is when you clip one animation for a second 5 at once is flat out cheating, and yet you could record hours of it in any given night in cyro and zenimax will do nothing. I have a good hour of just sorcs swapping bars and as the bar swaps 3 shields and a streak go off at once
Facts. It's not just on PC either. It's very much so on PS4. I can upload so many videos of people bypassing the global cooldown of things, but guess what. Rather than them getting their silly 72hrs. in-game ban, I'll catch a forum account suspension for naming and shaming.
There's so much shady behavior that runs rampant on PS4, it's ridiculous. Yeah we may not have CE users and macros (though people can run XIM and kb/m and maybe macro), we have all types of things that's dishonest going on. So many untouched and unfixed things that people know and exploit. And there are hackers and cheaters on console.
I could put soooooo many "famed" and "well-respected" players on blast from conversations they've had with me, and of video footage I've captured. So many people. I'm just saving it all for the moment I finally am on my final straw with ESO (not break-wise but to the point I request even my forum account be deleted), and then I'm uploading it all here. Screens, videos, etc.
Upload a vid please, ty
Oh, I will. Promised. I've been collecting it, and steadily uploading it to my YouTube and saving the screens. And on that day, a lot of folks will be salty.Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 23, 2017 7:14AM0 -
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✭lag is the killer , not animation cancelling. every time all those cliff racers, snipes, poison injections hit at once- its because the servers are crap. have always been crap and will always be crap. no amount of ac will help that.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .
@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.
I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.4 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭People still complain about animation cancelling? beat the dead horse and leave the game then, doesnt make much sense if youre playing a video game and hate it. smh4
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StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .
@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.
I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.
ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?
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Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?
So other classes cant use viper, red mountain, selene, skoria, tremor and so on? Stop that ***, for example yesterday i got hit by a warden with viper, red moutain, skoria proc all at once. Alot of sorcs both stam and mag use theese sets, same with dks
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✭✭✭✭✭People still complain about animation cancelling? beat the dead horse and leave the game then, doesnt make much sense if youre playing a video game and hate it. smh
I was waiting for this type of guy to appear. Lol.StackonClown wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .
@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.
I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.
ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?StackonClown wrote: »ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?
So other classes cant use viper, red mountain, selene, skoria, tremor and so on? Stop that ***, for example yesterday i got hit by a warden with viper, red moutain, skoria proc all at once. Alot of sorcs both stam and mag use theese sets, same with dks
It's not the proc sets, however. It's the abilities themselves. You see, it's 1 thing to get insta-gibbed due to proc sets all activating at the same time. That's fair game, in my opinion. Cheesy? Yes. Scrubby? Without a doubt. But still, it's not something that is sketchy. Getting hit by: Lethal Arrow, Poison Injection, Surprise Attack, and Incapacitating Strike within a fraction of a second is something entirely different. And I'm sure we all have had it happen to us, even though we weren't lagging in the slightest.
There is video documentation of players seemingly able to blend numerous skills in together, and thus completing ignoring the GCD of skills. Resulting in 1-shots with little to no lag at hand. You could be riding your mount, and then bam. Instantly killed. Only to read your death recap, and see a myriad of skills that just so happened to hit you instantly without any proc sets listed in the recap. Meanwhile you weren't lagging at all, and were having a damn near flawless connection to the server. I call bs to things like that, and am highly disgusted that is so prevalent in PvP.4 -
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✭Easily the best combo against noobs or unsuspecting players is bow heavy, poison injection, gap closer, light attack, spammable, viper, velidreth, damage health, ultimate. And execute if they haven't died yet.
Not cheating though. You know what wrecks that combo too? 1 dodge roll lol.Edited by Brutusmax1mus on July 23, 2017 8:12AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Got hit by 5 different attacks within a split second. Wasn't lagging in the slightest, but animation cancelling allowed it. Call it L2P all you want, or that I'm whining and complaining. I really don't give a damn, to be honest. Animation cancelling needs to be removed. Gone. Done with. There isn't jack s*** skillful about blinding multiple attacks in with 1 another, in order for your opponent to not respond to it. Nothing at all. Do I AC? All the time. Does it make it right? Hell no. It shouldn't even exist in the first damn place.
It is impossible, even by the best animation canceling player, to deliver 5 attacks within a second. The skills themselves have a 1 second minimum require time to pass before anything else can be done.
Lag can occur, especially in PvP, from the server side making it look like it is all delivered at once. I have even seen it in PvE where for a moment it appeared my attacks were not occurring and saw a few attacks go off at once. I was merely animation canceling the basic attack, light weaving.
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✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Easily the best combo against noobs or unsuspecting players is bow heavy, poison injection, gap closer, light attack, spammable, viper, velidreth, damage health, ultimate. And execute if they haven't died yet.
Not cheating though. You know what wrecks that combo too? 1 dodge roll lol.
... But the thing is, if you are avoiding the GCD? You ARE cheating. Yes, a dodge roll would indeed stop that combo. However, how can you react to something which happens instantly? You can't. Unless of course there is an add-on (which @Rohamad_Ali hinted at I'm assuming) which tells you when something is approaching, and when to dodge in advance. Otherwise, you're completely SOL. And forced to take the loss. Why? Because you got cheated out of defending yourself.
Once again, there is absolutely NOTHING skillful about avoiding the GCD of skills, and wrecking players who can't defend themselves in the slightest. All because you are able to completely exploit something, and make it where as though you have an advantage to which means there is 0 defense. You get no "cool points" from that. You get reported for it, and viewed as a pathetic person who needs to cheat for that. That's what you get.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Got hit by 5 different attacks within a split second. Wasn't lagging in the slightest, but animation cancelling allowed it. Call it L2P all you want, or that I'm whining and complaining. I really don't give a damn, to be honest. Animation cancelling needs to be removed. Gone. Done with. There isn't jack s*** skillful about blinding multiple attacks in with 1 another, in order for your opponent to not respond to it. Nothing at all. Do I AC? All the time. Does it make it right? Hell no. It shouldn't even exist in the first damn place.
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Got hit by 5 different attacks within a split second. Wasn't lagging in the slightest, but animation cancelling allowed it. Call it L2P all you want, or that I'm whining and complaining. I really don't give a damn, to be honest. Animation cancelling needs to be removed. Gone. Done with. There isn't jack s*** skillful about blinding multiple attacks in with 1 another, in order for your opponent to not respond to it. Nothing at all. Do I AC? All the time. Does it make it right? Hell no. It shouldn't even exist in the first damn place.
Did you survive?
My MagDK was instantly vaporized by the assault. It's kind of hard to defend against something you can't see, and manages to connect all at the same time.
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actosh✭✭✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .
@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.
I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.
ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?
Because 3of those 5 hits are procs and they have nothing to with ac.
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✭✭✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.
Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.
technically it does with combat addons .
But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .
I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .
@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.
I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.
ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?
Because 3of those 5 hits are procs and they have nothing to with ac.
Dmg health glyph
Selene/veli
Viper
So u got hit by just 2abilitys.
Correct. Which is why I say that what I'm complaining about is entirely different. I'm not talking about proc sets activating and killing me. No. Not at all. Does it tick me off? Sure. But, not nearly as much to having my character flop over to something that I couldn't even defend myself to. It's beyond obnoxious and ridiculous. 1 minute I'm fighting a person. I do absolutely everything that I'm supposed to. When the next minute, I see them cast Hardened or Empowered Ward, and at that same exact time a: Crystal Fragment, Force Pulse, and Light Attack just manage to fire off at the exact same time. And on multiple occasions. Without fail. Or as someone else mentioned, you'll see someone managing to Bolt Escape and cast a ward simultaneously. Then when questioned, claim they are animation cancelling all of their skills to mix everything in together.1 -
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✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Easily the best combo against noobs or unsuspecting players is bow heavy, poison injection, gap closer, light attack, spammable, viper, velidreth, damage health, ultimate. And execute if they haven't died yet.
Not cheating though. You know what wrecks that combo too? 1 dodge roll lol.
... But the thing is, if you are avoiding the GCD? You ARE cheating. Yes, a dodge roll would indeed stop that combo. However, how can you react to something which happens instantly? You can't. Unless of course there is an add-on (which @Rohamad_Ali hinted at I'm assuming) which tells you when something is approaching, and when to dodge in advance. Otherwise, you're completely SOL. And forced to take the loss. Why? Because you got cheated out of defending yourself.
Once again, there is absolutely NOTHING skillful about avoiding the GCD of skills, and wrecking players who can't defend themselves in the slightest. All because you are able to completely exploit something, and make it where as though you have an advantage to which means there is 0 defense. You get no "cool points" from that. You get reported for it, and viewed as a pathetic person who needs to cheat for that. That's what you get.
None of that is avoiding gcd... wtf are you talking about? The heavy and inject have travel times.
Light as heavy have thier own gcd
Skills have thier own gcd
Ultimate have thier own gcd
Dodge roll and block have thier own gcd.
L2p issue man... look up what global cool downs are and how they work please
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✭✭✭✭Does the weapon swap bug still exsist? I don't pvp much anymore. Since I suck. And people make fun of me. But a while back it was possible to sort of lock up your attacks and then when you would weapon swap they would all go off and once. I don't know if anything like that is still possible. But really when people say I got hit with 10 things all at once and I wasnt lagging, that might not matter. The other person might be. If I lag out when the game catches up sometimes all my attacks go off in a spilt second. Sometimes nothing happens at all. So it might not be a case of your lag, but theirs.
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✭Do you play pc? You could very well just be lagging too it sounds.Edited by Brutusmax1mus on July 23, 2017 9:15AM1 -
SpearDusk✭✭✭Had this happen to me too but I think in my case it was lag. I was standing there and in 1 second 5 or so skill attacks on me and I'm dead0
