puffytheslayer wrote: »addressing the OP's confusion over being in a vet instance
I have noticed that fungal 1 will randomly swap you from normal to vet, when i was grinding my netch & automoton gear solo on my stam sorc i would quite often reach the final boss & encounter my 1st death & then realise i was on vet for some reason!
puffytheslayer wrote: »addressing the OP's confusion over being in a vet instance
I have noticed that fungal 1 will randomly swap you from normal to vet, when i was grinding my netch & automoton gear solo on my stam sorc i would quite often reach the final boss & encounter my 1st death & then realise i was on vet for some reason!
it's darkshade, btw, not fungal
visionality wrote: »Hey op,
fortunately, your video shows combat metrics numbers, so some substantial comments:
- the group is really terrible. Group dps is 25k in an AOE add group. This should be the number for ONE DD, not for the whole group together.
- the tank is not tanking. I'm not sure whether he's taunting anything at all, but he's definitely missing the "biggies" which instantly focus on you instead (due to Radiant Aura).
- your own healing is - sorry to say - terrible. Actually you would have been kicked out of every group in a vet dungeon with the 6k hps you manage. Even with double numbers - 12k hps - I would still regard you as below average and only carryable by a group that can look out for itself. (This is not mean as an insult, but you need to get a feeling for your own abilities.) An accomplished healer manages 20-25k hps plus group support (dps buffs, enemy debuffs etc.) in vet dungeons.
How you can improve:
1) Use proper food, not the white health-trash your eating in your video. What you want for a healer is the blue health/magica cp 160 food. Craft it yourself or buy it in guildstores.
2) Check your magica regen. I guess you're using seducer because your regen is low, but still you run out of magica rather quickly (due to the white health-trashfood, too, ofc). Swap your mundus stone to atronach to bolster your regen. Increased healing is not helping anybody if you cant heal because you are out of magica.
3) Use a proper healing rotation. You have to find a mix between "emergency heals" that heal a lot but also cost a lot and low level heals that keep everybody alife under normal conditions. Check the costs of your skills. The costs for your "everyday heals" (healing springs, mutagen) have to be lower than your regen, because you have to use them constantly and still need some magica regen for the big emergency heals. Also: use potions when you run out of magica. Even the blue trash pots will help you a lot because they give back magica and increase your regeneration. This allows you to heal almost without heavy attacks.
4) Forget dps. Your role in a dungeon is to keep everybody alive. You can dps on top if everybody is healthy. But if your group dies two times in a row because you cast shards and do heavy attacks instead of healing (and casting a circle of retribution can NOT be considered healing), someone will start a vote to kick you. To bolster your groups regen, you can cast shards every now and then, but actually there is a 6 second cooldown on the synergy, which should give you an idea how often you really need to cast them ^^.
Last but not least: If you have friends who play a good healer: talk to them and ask them what they do to be good. If you don't have healer-friends, ask in your guild. If you don't have a guild, ask for help in zonechat. Many ppl are very willing to help, and teaching a weak healer how to become a strong one is something that many good healers actually enjoy.
5 pieces of Seducer. Other gear is random, I've got 50 lvl on this character only 2 days ago.Question
Are you using 9 seducer?
Are you using s powered staff?
Is you gear to your be level?
How I would of done this.
Place hots before fight
Throw a shards.
Apply jabs
Realize dps and tank are questionable
Spam springs
* Fails check food of everyone and Shields
P.S remove healing ward. Why would a Templar use this?
5 pieces of Seducer. Other gear is random, I've got 50 lvl on this character only 2 days ago.Question
Are you using 9 seducer?
Are you using s powered staff?
Is you gear to your be level?
How I would of done this.
Place hots before fight
Throw a shards.
Apply jabs
Realize dps and tank are questionable
Spam springs
* Fails check food of everyone and Shields
P.S remove healing ward. Why would a Templar use this?
Yes, my restor-staff is Powered.
Yes, all gear 160CP.
I always trying to place Regeneration and Ritual. In this video I was quite distracted so I didn't use them as I usualy do.
I like Healing Ward, why shouldn't I use it?
This thread is why I don't pug dungeons.
There are way too many players who have no clue what they are doing and Zos don't make it easy to find out.
5 pieces of Seducer. Other gear is random, I've got 50 lvl on this character only 2 days ago.Question
Are you using 9 seducer?
Are you using s powered staff?
Is you gear to your be level?
How I would of done this.
Place hots before fight
Throw a shards.
Apply jabs
Realize dps and tank are questionable
Spam springs
* Fails check food of everyone and Shields
P.S remove healing ward. Why would a Templar use this?
Yes, my restor-staff is Powered.
Yes, all gear 160CP.
I always trying to place Regeneration and Ritual. In this video I was quite distracted so I didn't use them as I usualy do.
I like Healing Ward, why shouldn't I use it?
I don't think that was a normal but a vet dungeon. Go buy some gear. The healer set is purchasable and affordable. By the way to you have light gear? Do you have all light amour passavie.
Edit
Did you use your CP?
How did you use it?
5 pieces of Seducer. Other gear is random, I've got 50 lvl on this character only 2 days ago.Question
Are you using 9 seducer?
Are you using s powered staff?
Is you gear to your be level?
How I would of done this.
Place hots before fight
Throw a shards.
Apply jabs
Realize dps and tank are questionable
Spam springs
* Fails check food of everyone and Shields
P.S remove healing ward. Why would a Templar use this?
Yes, my restor-staff is Powered.
Yes, all gear 160CP.
I always trying to place Regeneration and Ritual. In this video I was quite distracted so I didn't use them as I usualy do.
I like Healing Ward, why shouldn't I use it?
I don't think that was a normal but a vet dungeon. Go buy some gear. The healer set is purchasable and affordable. By the way to you have light gear? Do you have all light amour passavie.
Edit
Did you use your CP?
How did you use it?
Yeah, it was vet somehow.
I've got 5 light pieces, yes. And all passives as well.
CP used for mag. regen, output heal increase, decrease input damage (such as fire, ice, etc) and physical def (from light armor).
jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »My two cents, having a healer as main and enjoying being a healer:
- When you are in a dungeon, mainly with random people, do prefer Rapid Regeneration over Healing Springs. Rapid Regen can be cast on all the group with two clicks. It lasts a lot and does not need to be directed. It just works. On the other hand, each time you cast Springs you need to click twice and only those in the radius are affected. With PUGs this is usually a problem people don't use a mic to coordinate and spread out for no real reason.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »[*] When you are in a dungeon, mainly with random people, do prefer Rapid Regeneration over Healing Springs. Rapid Regen can be cast on all the group with two clicks. It lasts a lot and does not need to be directed. It just works. On the other hand, each time you cast Springs you need to click twice and only those in the radius are affected. With PUGs this is usually a problem people don't use a mic to coordinate and spread out for no real reason.
Ah cool, I'll give it a try!Merlin13KAGL wrote: »You'll still have to 'aim' it, but odds are, you're already pointed in that direction anyway. You'll be amazed how much enabling this one setting will add to fluid gameplay.
I don't usually need anything else than combining Rapid Regen and Aura. The high critical spell chance guarantees that ticks cure a lot, so unless you stay on red when you should not, the HoTs get you back to full health in a second or two max, unless you need some 10K fast.LadyNalcarya wrote: »Also, rapid regen alone isnt strong enough to outheal everything even on cp630 character... Its nice as an extra HoT and it gives you very good uptime of spell power cure, though.
And dont forget that springs restore a bit of magicka when you heal someone.
This thread is why I don't pug dungeons.
There are way too many players who have no clue what they are doing and Zos don't make it easy to find out.
puffytheslayer wrote: »addressing the OP's confusion over being in a vet instance
I have noticed that fungal 1 will randomly swap you from normal to vet, when i was grinding my netch & automoton gear solo on my stam sorc i would quite often reach the final boss & encounter my 1st death & then realise i was on vet for some reason!
It was happen yesterday.
I did queue in normal dungeon. Something gone wrong with group finder and I wasn't teleported to dungeon automaticaly. So, I did it manually. Then the show goes on.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGtOecFY_8&persist_app=1&app=m
I know, I'm not an excellent healer. I was in vet gungeon only once and we didn't kill the last boss there because I was dying under boss special atack. (Fungal Grotto 2, boss had used some electrical spell that was damaging each player in group).
But this was a normal dungeon. Eh... It was a vet. I'm pretty shure I was queued for normal, but this dungeon became vet somehow.
My gear is 5 light Seducer, 4 of them are Divine trait, Ritual stone.
I was confused. Maybe it was a bug and my healing didn't work for group mates. Maybe that tank gear was broken. I really don't know.
Any idea?
Everyone has gone over the group's issues. If you want a tip for this boss, get under the bubble during the special attack. If for some reason you are attempting hard mode, the Temp heal ult, Remembrance, will heal through it if the group turtles up.I know, I'm not an excellent healer. I was in vet gungeon only once and we didn't kill the last boss there because I was dying under boss special atack. (Fungal Grotto 2, boss had used some electrical spell that was damaging each player in group).
...
Any idea?
It was happen yesterday.
I did queue in normal dungeon. Something gone wrong with group finder and I wasn't teleported to dungeon automaticaly. So, I did it manually. Then the show goes on.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGtOecFY_8&persist_app=1&app=m
I know, I'm not an excellent healer. I was in vet gungeon only once and we didn't kill the last boss there because I was dying under boss special atack. (Fungal Grotto 2, boss had used some electrical spell that was damaging each player in group).
But this was a normal dungeon. Eh... It was a vet. I'm pretty shure I was queued for normal, but this dungeon became vet somehow.
My gear is 5 light Seducer, 4 of them are Divine trait, Ritual stone.
I was confused. Maybe it was a bug and my healing didn't work for group mates. Maybe that tank gear was broken. I really don't know.
Any idea?
I would also suggest that you get into the habit of watching your party's health bars on the left side of the screen and react accordingly. Because many of the actions you took seemed oblivious to that fact (such as casting defensive buffs on yourself or attacking enemies while your party members were literally dying).
xb1LL_mr_sir_LL wrote: »its ALWAYS the healers fault. 6900 vet dungeon completions have taught me that.
driosketch wrote: »Everyone has gone over the group's issues. If you want a tip for this boss, get under the bubble during the special attack. If for some reason you are attempting hard mode, the Temp heal ult, Remembrance, will heal through it if the group turtles up.I know, I'm not an excellent healer. I was in vet gungeon only once and we didn't kill the last boss there because I was dying under boss special atack. (Fungal Grotto 2, boss had used some electrical spell that was damaging each player in group).
...
Any idea?
5 pieces of Seducer. Other gear is random, I've got 50 lvl on this character only 2 days ago.Question
Are you using 9 seducer?
Are you using s powered staff?
Is you gear to your be level?
How I would of done this.
Place hots before fight
Throw a shards.
Apply jabs
Realize dps and tank are questionable
Spam springs
* Fails check food of everyone and Shields
P.S remove healing ward. Why would a Templar use this?
Yes, my restor-staff is Powered.
Yes, all gear 160CP.
I always trying to place Regeneration and Ritual. In this video I was quite distracted so I didn't use them as I usualy do.
I like Healing Ward, why shouldn't I use it?
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »driosketch wrote: »Everyone has gone over the group's issues. If you want a tip for this boss, get under the bubble during the special attack. If for some reason you are attempting hard mode, the Temp heal ult, Remembrance, will heal through it if the group turtles up.I know, I'm not an excellent healer. I was in vet gungeon only once and we didn't kill the last boss there because I was dying under boss special atack. (Fungal Grotto 2, boss had used some electrical spell that was damaging each player in group).
...
Any idea?
Overkill.
- Tank keeps taunt. Keeps others from eating the projectile.
- Healer drops Circle of Protection, Regen, Springs as necessary.
- Everyone stacks. If a black hole forms near, you shift a little as a group.
- When boss teleports, you simply trade her places.
- When boss channels, spam healing springs.
- Repeat from step 1.
This has been one of the simplest "Hard Mode" clears from the beginning of time if tank keeps taunt, able to be restro healed without issue. People usually make it harder than it needs to be.
Adding Retribution to the mix, with BoL as needed, no bubble required - ever.