So let me get this straight...........

  • Egonieser
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    It's not been laggy for me at all, despite all servers poplocked and full of zergs, in fact it's been best since 1.3. (EU PC)
    Sometimes, I dream about...cheese...

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  • doslekis
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    I'm on ps4 and only get lag when the servers about to crash, what I get more often is everyone freezing and waiting till I disconnect 8 times before it starts running smoothly again.

    Any other online game I can play with no problems. Only this one causes this much problems
    I don't normally use daggers, but when I do, I choose dos Lekis.
  • Thealteregoroman
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    I honesty think half of you people only PVP so you can have another topic to come cry about on the forums.....

    @KingYogi415 you know I am speaking the truth tho.............................

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  • AzraelKrieg
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    Someone needs to deny you the ability to post gifs.
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  • Rikkof
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    ONE SERVER hosting all instances = fail and shows that the company doesn't want to make a playable game
    ATM is far from playable, and having all instances being hosted on the same server .....
    MAYBE U SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY U EARN FROM US ON PURCHASING ADITIONAL SERVERS, NOT ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THROWN IN SAME SERVER.....who had this idea?
    THE LAGG....I PLAY IN EU and I have 120 ping w t h ????
  • Necrelios
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    Yeah I got something I can contribute to this, I was in IC last night, and three players from AD jumped on me and started hitting me sharp metal thingies. I held them off for a long time, and my health meter was still full and I was like "wow this is amazing, I haven't PvP'd in almost a year and I still got it!" Then all of the sudden I had zero health and was dead. Then I remembered why I haven't PvP'd in so long.
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  • AlMcFly
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    PVP has always had this lag when you are battling at a keep or when there are more than 40 people on your screen?
    Wrong, which is why i didn't bother with the rest of the post.

    We used to have hundreds of players in the same spot without lag.
    And that was before they removed skill/status effect display on other players and killed all the deer in Cyrodiil.
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    Oh, you mean the days when Vampire Dragonknights could 1vZerg with Swarm...and win? Yeah, those days sure were fun ;P
  • Thealteregoroman
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    Someone needs to deny you the ability to post gifs.

    @AzraelKrieg

    behold the white knight and all his glory.

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  • AzraelKrieg
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    Where in my post was I white-knighting? Stop with all the damn gifs. Your threads are god damn eyesores as it is with the random capitalization
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  • madchuska83
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    I enjoyed this thread. It's colorful.
  • Thealteregoroman
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    ONE SERVER hosting all instances = fail and shows that the company doesn't want to make a playable game
    ATM is far from playable, and having all instances being hosted on the same server .....
    MAYBE U SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY U EARN FROM US ON PURCHASING ADITIONAL SERVERS, NOT ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THROWN IN SAME SERVER.....who had this idea?
    THE LAGG....I PLAY IN EU and I have 120 ping w t h ????

    @Rikkof but I am gettin blasted for speaking the truth.
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  • Thealteregoroman
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    Where in my post was I white-knighting? Stop with all the damn gifs. Your threads are god damn eyesores as it is with the random capitalization

    This is my post about how I feel and I was asking a genuine question. There for I can post what I want to post. That is not how this works. You express how you may feel on a discussion whenever you feel but I HAVE NEVER BASHED YOU or told you to stop posting or how to.

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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Rikkof wrote: »
    ONE SERVER hosting all instances = fail and shows that the company doesn't want to make a playable game
    ATM is far from playable, and having all instances being hosted on the same server .....
    MAYBE U SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY U EARN FROM US ON PURCHASING ADITIONAL SERVERS, NOT ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THROWN IN SAME SERVER.....who had this idea?
    THE LAGG....I PLAY IN EU and I have 120 ping w t h ????

    @Rikkof but I am gettin blasted for speaking the truth.

    @Thealteregoroman Welcome to the club. Lol. You'll notice a few patterns and other things about the forums community, and most of what you come across won't exactly be too pleasing and positive. Is that to say that everyone who posts is a negative Nancy, who just loves to indulge in behaving in a toxic manner? No. But, that is to say that people do an awful lot of parroting and unneeded flaming due to the fact that they can hide behind their "cyber fame", as if it's supposed to make them not get called out on their bs and toxicity.

    It's to the point that I have a lot of folks on my ignore list who a lot of folks here on these forums would consider to be "icons" or "major contributors" to the ESO community. I don't really care about that, however. And only care about how it is that they treat others. Myself included of course.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 23, 2017 10:57PM
  • LadyLethalla
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    I will say that I don't ever pvp, but from what I've heard, not many care about the PvP leaderboards because they are almost all just cheesed or farmed through guilds fixing emp and what not.

    So I speak from personal experience in saying that NOTHING is legitimate about people obtaining emperor for the most part nowadays. Nada. In the past? Yes, and a bit somewhat. But nowadays? It's guilds that dictate map control and who gets emperor. It's guilds that work with different alliances to make certain moves happen, and for them to farm AP the way that they do.

    Uhhh... have to disagree with you there. I got some assistance from guildies when I went for Emp but I also got assistance from friends and randoms. And said guild wasn't about cheesing anything. You got into first place on the leaderboard through your own merit and had to work at keeping it. There wasn't even any rallying call from the GM, when we finally did the run to get all 6 Emp keeps.
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  • Thealteregoroman
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    ONE SERVER hosting all instances = fail and shows that the company doesn't want to make a playable game
    ATM is far from playable, and having all instances being hosted on the same server .....
    MAYBE U SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY U EARN FROM US ON PURCHASING ADITIONAL SERVERS, NOT ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THROWN IN SAME SERVER.....who had this idea?
    THE LAGG....I PLAY IN EU and I have 120 ping w t h ????

    @Rikkof but I am gettin blasted for speaking the truth.

    @Thealteregoroman Welcome to the club. Lol. You'll notice a few patterns and other things about the forums community, and most of what you come across won't exactly be too pleasing and positive. Is that to say that everyone who posts is a negative Nancy, who just loves to indulge in behaving in a toxic manner? No. But, that is to say that people do an awful lot of parroting and unneeded flaming due to the fact that they can hide behind their "cyber fame", as if it's supposed to make them not get called out on their bs and toxicity.

    It's to the point that I have a lot of folks on my ignore list who a lot of folks here on these forums would consider to be "icons" or "major contributors" to the ESO community. I don't really care about that, however. And only care about how it is that they treat others. Myself included of course.

    @Ch4mpTW please tell me you have a PS4 lol.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Rikkof wrote: »
    ONE SERVER hosting all instances = fail and shows that the company doesn't want to make a playable game
    ATM is far from playable, and having all instances being hosted on the same server .....
    MAYBE U SHOULD INVEST SOME MONEY U EARN FROM US ON PURCHASING ADITIONAL SERVERS, NOT ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS THROWN IN SAME SERVER.....who had this idea?
    THE LAGG....I PLAY IN EU and I have 120 ping w t h ????

    @Rikkof but I am gettin blasted for speaking the truth.

    @Thealteregoroman Welcome to the club. Lol. You'll notice a few patterns and other things about the forums community, and most of what you come across won't exactly be too pleasing and positive. Is that to say that everyone who posts is a negative Nancy, who just loves to indulge in behaving in a toxic manner? No. But, that is to say that people do an awful lot of parroting and unneeded flaming due to the fact that they can hide behind their "cyber fame", as if it's supposed to make them not get called out on their bs and toxicity.

    It's to the point that I have a lot of folks on my ignore list who a lot of folks here on these forums would consider to be "icons" or "major contributors" to the ESO community. I don't really care about that, however. And only care about how it is that they treat others. Myself included of course.

    @Ch4mpTW please tell me you have a PS4 lol.

    Indeed I do. :smile:
  • Hookgrin
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    All these gifs are going to make the Forum lag.
  • Thealteregoroman
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    Hookgrin wrote: »
    All these gifs are going to make the Forum lag.

    @Hookgrin please update your hardware.
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  • KingYogi415
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    I honesty think half of you people only PVP so you can have another topic to come cry about on the forums.....

    @KingYogi415 you know I am speaking the truth tho.............................

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    Your not though. I always play the least a populated servers because zerging takes very little skill and is not fun. Never any lag, at all. Even when I pvp EU from CA.

    Rubber banding at 2 fps around keeps was the norm. That was with my 100mbs internet.

    You need at least 40mbs to bearly lag during zergs. Please post internet speed before you try to call out the game.

    Cheers!

  • Hookgrin
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    Hookgrin wrote: »
    All these gifs are going to make the Forum lag.

    @Hookgrin please update your hardware.

    But I've upgraded from the hamster.

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  • Thealteregoroman
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    I honesty think half of you people only PVP so you can have another topic to come cry about on the forums.....

    @KingYogi415 you know I am speaking the truth tho.............................

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    Your not though. I always play the least a populated servers because zerging takes very little skill and is not fun. Never any lag, at all. Even when I pvp EU from CA.

    Rubber banding at 2 fps around keeps was the norm. That was with my 100mbs internet.

    You need at least 40mbs to bearly lag during zergs. Please post internet speed before you try to call out the game.

    Cheers!

    @KingYogi415 my blazing internet speed and best hardware does not have anything to do with many people randomly disconnecting from servers when porting to town or getting near a keep at peak times in PVP. I ALWAYS make sure my hardware is on point, however my experience with this game and your experience is and will be different.

    I love and bleed this game too as well as being a big fan of elderscrolls HOWEVER........

    I want my moneys worth and so far I am not getting that. I want to see change on their end to be able to make things fair in PVP for a majority of the player base. NOT LAG and disconnect when I am in a group of 4 and THEY are not sure if I am coming back or not. I am tired of hearing oh damn.....he/she must have DC'd again.........and we just expect it as the "norm"

    25 people seem to agree with me on this.

    Take care
    Edited by Thealteregoroman on July 23, 2017 11:33PM
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  • Rygonix
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    Hookgrin wrote: »
    All these gifs are going to make the Forum lag.

    Yeah, if this forum was using a free message board service..from 2004. Even back then I thought the mods of a certain forum community were full of it.
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  • MarzAttakz
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    IF @Thealteregoroman WAS A GAME I WOULD BUY IT, PLAY IT AND <3 IT.
    You need at least 40mbs to bearly lag during zergs. Please post internet speed before you try to call out the game.

    What planet are you from? Why on earth (yes earth) should an MMO require a 40mb line to not lag? That reeks of sloppy coding and sloppy trafficking. You can add sloppy client-side validation to that list too.

    Here have a sloppy chip to go along with it.

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  • Thealteregoroman
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    MarzAttakz wrote: »
    IF @Thealteregoroman WAS A GAME I WOULD BUY IT, PLAY IT AND <3 IT.
    You need at least 40mbs to bearly lag during zergs. Please post internet speed before you try to call out the game.

    What planet are you from? Why on earth (yes earth) should an MMO require a 40mb line to not lag? That reeks of sloppy coding and sloppy trafficking. You can add sloppy client-side validation to that list too.

    Here have a sloppy chip to go along with it.

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  • WalksonGraves
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    The gifs made my phone lag. ZOS upgrade it already!
  • zaria
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    PVP has always had this lag when you are battling at a keep or when there are more than 40 people on your screen?
    Wrong, which is why i didn't bother with the rest of the post.

    We used to have hundreds of players in the same spot without lag.
    And that was before they removed skill/status effect display on other players and killed all the deer in Cyrodiil.
    shades.gif
    In the early game most calculations was done on the client, this gave excellent performance, it also made it very easy for cheaters. They moved calculations server side and this overloaded servers and communication.

    One smart way to do it would be to keep running most on client and have server verify the client calculations to check for cheaters. You would only need to check some random clients and it did not had to be real time.
    If too much weird stuff start logging, and monitor more closely, then disconnect, player would be tagged and would be checked far more often than others.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Silvertiburon_11_ESO
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    You want to know why PVP doesn't get fixed? Because it would take real work and real work takes money. And what is the return on that money? A broken system that brings in little to no further money is fixed for a few people that are still willing to suffer the broken system.

    The biggest problem with this game is that all they need to do to make real money is reskin a horse or sell a goofy hat with a funny name and people throw money at them. Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars hiring teams of people and expensive equipment to fix systems only a small part of the gaming community use when they have a far better, FAR better rate of return making a beard, or strap lights to a horses rear and those people that pay a monthly subscription will still buy it.

    Take a look at LOTRO. That's was a great game when it came out. Not as popular as some but it was still a great game with great gameplay and a devoted following. A few years after release they go to the free to play model. They get a major influx of money shortly after and then it was cut and paste dungeons, goofy outfits and straight down the tubes.

    ESO has far more players and a bigger budget so I imagine it will last awhile longer but the moment the cash shop comes out the best they can hope for is to milk the role players who would rather stand at a fountain and dance in a dress than those of you who found the original mechanics of the game so appealing.

    Sorry for the rant, frustration has been building for awhile...
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I agree with your original post but... unfortunately there's been many similar posts over time which have raised similar issues of ZO$' lack of involvement/fixes/acknowledgment of errors/faults and none ever yield a victory (change) :neutral:
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  • Tintaglia72
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    I don't often do PVP as I am rubbish at it, I openly admit that :). However I wanted the Achievs.

    I am in Australia so we have a higher ping anyway, usually around the 300 mark which is livable. We get used to it. However. On saturday after having to replace my dead graphics card with a GTX 1070 so a bloomin good one, I was in the Q for 4 hours. Once I eventually got in I dc'd 6 times in less than 15 mins. Totally unplayable.

    I tried again yesterday in the smaller campaign. It was ok for a bit but then again started to dc, connectivity is appauling. When you are just about to cap a keep and get tonnes of AP and you dc it isn't fun....
  • Gothren
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    Things I hate in pvp:

    1. can't weapon swap which = death
    2. animation delays followed by 15 different animations at once 5 minutes later
    3. getting killed by invisblle men and women
    4. disconnets to login screen
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