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How to beat Wardens 101
SanTii.92
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So after the recent amount of topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that bluish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learnt how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
Edit. Got pointed out the correct color of the aura. Now is truly a bulletproof guide, thanks.
Edited by SanTii.92 on July 20, 2017 7:30PM 1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that bluish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learnt how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
Edit. Got pointed out the correct color of the aura. Now is truly a bulletproof guide, thanks.
When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.
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Smmokkee✭✭✭✭✭Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.18 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Forgot to mention how both that ability and cliff racers are undodgeable. Forgot to mention their amazing ability for burst healing. Forgot to mention their rather solid sustain.
Don't get me wrong, I kill Wardens all the time, but much like skilled magsorcs currently, a skilled magwarden is borderline unkillable."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm10 -
Ahzek✭✭✭✭✭
✭How to kill wardens:
1.) Dont equip medium armor (its *** agaisnt everyone else too)
2.) Profit.Jo'Khaljor3 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
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Doesn't matter when you are avoiding the Cc. No crowd control, no pressure, simple as that.Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.
Go ahead and make it dodgeable, but you better rework the class alongside cause that would effectively broke them since they would be left with nothing but a single dot as reliable form of dmge.Edited by SanTii.92 on July 20, 2017 4:22PMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
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✭So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.0 -
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Doesn't matter when you are avoiding the Cc. No crowd control, no pressure, simple as that.Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.
Go ahead and make it dodgeable, but you better rework the class alongside cause that would effectively broke them since it would be left with nothing but q single dot as reliable dmge.
Translation - but if there's counterplay then how can I win?
I dislike stamina as much as the next caster who has fallen victim at some point in her life to a gankblade, but come on. You know roll dodging is a vital defensive move for them."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.
Good thing there's Frost Clench and the undodgeable Pidgeys
That'll make sure the Heracross will hit you 
Edited by Tryxus on July 20, 2017 4:26PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
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The counterplay is to avoid the fissuresn I can't kill you only with the racers you know. If I do, I'm sorry but you have bigger problems than them not being dodgeable.ParaNostram wrote: »
Doesn't matter when you are avoiding the Cc. No crowd control, no pressure, simple as that.Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.
Go ahead and make it dodgeable, but you better rework the class alongside cause that would effectively broke them since it would be left with nothing but q single dot as reliable dmge.
Translation - but if there's counterplay then how can I win?
I dislike stamina as much as the next caster who has fallen victim at some point in her life to a gankblade, but come on. You know roll dodging is a vital defensive move for them.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
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Wasting a slot on clench and giving up flame staff? Easy win.Ihatenightblades wrote: »So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.
Good thing there's Frost Clench and the undodgeable Pidgeys That'll make sure the Heracross will hit you When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
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The counterplay is to avoid the fissuresn I can't kill you only with the racers you know. If I do, I'm sorry but you have bigger problems than them not being dodgeable.ParaNostram wrote: »
Doesn't matter when you are avoiding the Cc. No crowd control, no pressure, simple as that.Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.
Go ahead and make it dodgeable, but you better rework the class alongside cause that would effectively broke them since it would be left with nothing but q single dot as reliable dmge.
Translation - but if there's counterplay then how can I win?
I dislike stamina as much as the next caster who has fallen victim at some point in her life to a gankblade, but come on. You know roll dodging is a vital defensive move for them.
If you miss with the fissure you really are bad at aiming. Like seriously. Want to know how often I miss? That's a trick question, I don't. Fissure with a timed cliff racer and a force pulse, all 3 land at once and they're stunned to boot. Cliff racer force pulse, those both land at the same time they're likely dead and a good chunk of that couldn't be dodged.
Edit: I play a freakin magsorc, I know what broken look like. Magsorcs need touched up, cliff racer needs to be dodgeable, then we've got it. It's still a good skill even if it is dodgeable, as previously mentioned you can time it to land at the same time as other abilities that slight delay is freakin' glorious for burst damage.Edited by ParaNostram on July 20, 2017 4:31PM"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm0 -
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Dude, for the most part it's not up to you to land the fissures but the opponent to dodge them. Even in the case they can't they just got to block it, please refer to my guide.ParaNostram wrote: »
The counterplay is to avoid the fissuresn I can't kill you only with the racers you know. If I do, I'm sorry but you have bigger problems than them not being dodgeable.ParaNostram wrote: »
Doesn't matter when you are avoiding the Cc. No crowd control, no pressure, simple as that.Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.
Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.
Go ahead and make it dodgeable, but you better rework the class alongside cause that would effectively broke them since it would be left with nothing but q single dot as reliable dmge.
Translation - but if there's counterplay then how can I win?
I dislike stamina as much as the next caster who has fallen victim at some point in her life to a gankblade, but come on. You know roll dodging is a vital defensive move for them.
If you miss with the fissure you really are bad at aiming. Like seriously. Want to know how often I miss? That's a trick question, I don't. Fissure with a timed cliff racer and a force pulse, all 3 land at once and they're stunned to boot. Cliff racer force pulse, those both land at the same time they're likely dead and a good chunk of that couldn't be dodged.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.1 -
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Wasting a slot on clench and giving up flame staff? Easy win.Ihatenightblades wrote: »So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.
Good thing there's Frost Clench and the undodgeable Pidgeys That'll make sure the Heracross will hit you
Yup, easy win for me "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
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Well glad to hear, guess it's a matter of prefference. I'd rather pickup grappling shards in that case and hold to my fire staff.
Wasting a slot on clench and giving up flame staff? Easy win.Ihatenightblades wrote: »So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.
Good thing there's Frost Clench and the undodgeable Pidgeys That'll make sure the Heracross will hit you
Yup, easy win for meWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
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Well glad to hear, guess it's a matter of prefference. I'd rather pickup grappling shards in that case and hold to my fire staff.
Wasting a slot on clench and giving up flame staff? Easy win.Ihatenightblades wrote: »So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.
1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.
You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.
U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.
Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.
Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.
Good thing there's Frost Clench and the undodgeable Pidgeys That'll make sure the Heracross will hit you
Yup, easy win for me
Yeah, I've been using Frost Staff since TG (Mr. Freeze Magblade build) so I'm kinda partial to the weapon.
And I think the Frost Clench root works great on Magden too: been having good results in duels and bgs
To each his own, I guess
Edited by Tryxus on July 20, 2017 5:11PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
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✭A magwarden using fire staff can get off five hits in one combo. because of the undodgable slow bird, the hard to see and VERY long range and slow time for the beetles. Light attack beetles, light attack bird, light attack crushing shock...thats over 10k, maybe more like 13-14k on my light armor magplar. Its not hard to set up that burst, you get stunned, non of that is cast time burst, just delayed. Being that a LA magplar who uses shields are kinda...gimped for defense. (Templar arent great with shields.) Thats a *** ton of danage most of it hitting at once. My dark flare, javelin, unstable core wont break their shields/ HoTs...im doomed by them. Cannot take a properly built one on in a duel, when most other mag builds i can. (Save mag DKs with 1 hand and shield equipped.)
Not too big a deal. But sucks to come against em in cyro1 -
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✭Also...unstable core takes time to go off, why is that dodgable? Lol...want to talk about balancing skills together. I dissagree with the undodgable aspect of all non beam skills.1 -
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✭I've actually seen this Magden PvP destroy Mag Sorc 1v1 over and over in Rawl. It was amusing to watch because the Magden was about 530CP and Mag Sorc was 630CP. Yes I have no idea what the gear situation was for either one of them but the way Mag Sorc kept challenging the Magden looked as if he couldn't believe he was losing.Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
Cost analysis for potential ESO players: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/367919/cost-analysis-for-brand-new-potential-pc-eso-players#latest
Warden Bow Healer/DPS Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-bow-healerdps-hybrid/
Warden "The Warladin" Healer/Tank Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-the-warladin-healertank-hybrid-build/
Warden Stamina DPS Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-dps-build/Server - PC/NA
Vhevet - (S) Night Blade/Female/Orsimer
Ecaer - (M) Templar/Female/Breton
Captain Beaster Bunny - (S) Warden/Male/Red Guard
Ezaera - (M) Sorcerer/Female/Altmer
Ecaeri - (M) Warden/Female/Argonian
Dun-and-Dunmer - (M) Dragon Knight/Male/Dunmer
What Can Go Wong - (S) Night Blade/Male/Bosmer
Izaer - (M) Templar/Male/Breton1 -
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This is probably cause he didn't read my guide.I've actually seen this Magden PvP destroy Mag Sorc 1v1 over and over in Rawl. It was amusing to watch because the Magden was about 530CP and Mag Sorc was 630CP. Yes I have no idea what the gear situation was for either one of them but the way Mag Sorc kept challenging the Magden looked as if he couldn't believe he was losing.Edited by SanTii.92 on July 20, 2017 5:21PMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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✭✭✭✭✭Deep fissure is blue
Its damage goes through blockPS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Hi, was waiting for you.leepalmer95 wrote: »Deep fissure is blue
Its damage goes through block
Sure, yet if you die to it without getting cc'ed you are probably doing something else wrong. Can't help with that, sorry.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
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Definitely have won against every type of build
Definitely have lost my share too
Time your burst, (look for vines falling from my body)0 -
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✭1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.
They just die when you do that? Pretty risky skill to use then. No wonder they just spam Cliff Racer.
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Deep fissure is blue
Its damage goes through block
Or green, depending on the morph.Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
Cost analysis for potential ESO players: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/367919/cost-analysis-for-brand-new-potential-pc-eso-players#latest
Warden Bow Healer/DPS Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-bow-healerdps-hybrid/
Warden "The Warladin" Healer/Tank Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-the-warladin-healertank-hybrid-build/
Warden Stamina DPS Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-dps-build/Server - PC/NA
Vhevet - (S) Night Blade/Female/Orsimer
Ecaer - (M) Templar/Female/Breton
Captain Beaster Bunny - (S) Warden/Male/Red Guard
Ezaera - (M) Sorcerer/Female/Altmer
Ecaeri - (M) Warden/Female/Argonian
Dun-and-Dunmer - (M) Dragon Knight/Male/Dunmer
What Can Go Wong - (S) Night Blade/Male/Bosmer
Izaer - (M) Templar/Male/Breton0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Deep fissure is blue
Its damage goes through block
Or green, depending on the morph.
Deep fissure = blue
Sub assault is green.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lmfao I always get stuck on the team that as the level 18 and the level 36
1/13 KD
2/8
9/10
8/9
Team purple didn't have a single player with a KD ratio above 1!!! LMFAO!!!
Team Red had ONE player
With a K/D above 1!
Two of their team mates got only 1 kill
Infact team Red top player out performed you
Can't believe so many scrubs allowed themselves to die to skoria (your ONLY way to kill)
Caltrops is a genus idea to get massive assistance points without really doing anything.
Great video of why anyone Sub 160+ CP should not play BGs0 -
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✭✭Break cc and then roll dodge through the warden, just like you do with a templar spamming sweeps. Fissure is no more a problem than incap strike.
Not being able to dodge a spammable, high damage ability is another matter altogether...
Oddly enough, silence works on warden stamina abilities like sub assault and cutting dive.
Dodge is too effective in the game at the minute, but undodgeable damage is likewise too effective.
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Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.0
https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw