How to beat Wardens 101

SanTii.92

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Break cc and then roll dodge through the warden, just like you do with a templar spamming sweeps. Fissure is no more a problem than incap strike.

Not being able to dodge a spammable, high damage ability is another matter altogether...

Oddly enough, silence works on warden stamina abilities like sub assault and cutting dive.

Dodge is too effective in the game at the minute, but undodgeable damage is likewise too effective.

Fissure is way less of a problem than incap cause it's so telegraphed you can see it coming from a mile away. And if this wasn't enough of an issue for wardens, landing those Fissures is indispensable to win fights since it's only form of Cc and the setup for impactful combos.

I'l just refer back to the guide, block Fissures = instant win.

Waffennacht

Maikon wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.

His skoria pwned the level 36 and level 18s >.<

DeHei

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

So after the recent amount if topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.

1. Identify when wareens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that greenish aura on their feet.
2. Make sure you are holding block 2.5 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Congrats!! You have successfully learn how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.

You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.

U can just move in circles and it never hits u once LOL. No need to waste stamina blocking.

Havnt been hit by one deep fissure or subterranean assault i just stay moving in circles.

Warden dps isnt what hurts me. Its pretty hard to kill a warden when they have good heals on.

I know a Magden build with much slow and rooting effects.. hard to run while rooted..

SanTii.92

DeHei wrote: »

I know a Magden build with much slow and rooting effects.. hard to run while rooted..

ya

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Wasting a slot on clench and giving up flame staff? Easy win.

Kay1

Now do this tutorial but against people who have 2 hands, gold gear and PvP knowledge.

SanTii.92

Kay1 wrote: »

Now do this tutorial but against people who have 2 hands, gold gear and PvP knowledge.

That's the funny thing. Wardens are actually so limited that this is pretty much all you got to know about them. There just isn't any more depth to it, there are no more skills. If you manage to block the Fissures I guaruantee you that you won't lose, unless there is some massive skill desparity.

Yes, if we fight for five or ten minutes, eventually you might messd it up and get cought on a fissure and die, but for the most part, that is about it.

Unfadingsilence

Smmokkee wrote: »

Meanwhile the undodgeable cliff racer spam kills all the fun of old.

Make it dodgeable buff them elsewhere.

But you can if you get out of range in time or just go NA and cloak it

Waffennacht

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

Now do this tutorial but against people who have 2 hands, gold gear and PvP knowledge.

That's the funny thing. Wardens are actually so limited that this is pretty much all you got to know about them. There just isn't any more depth to it, there are no more skills. If you manage to block the Fissures I guaruantee you that you won't lose, unless there is some massive skill desparity.

Yes, if we fight for five or ten minutes, eventually you might messd it up and get cought on a fissure and die, but for the most part, that is about it.

Without Fissure my Pulse + Racer is over 25k tooltip, then I do have DboS or what I prefer in a duel Fissure then Soul Assault the 70% snare makes it easy to line up.

Not saying you won't beat most wardens by avoiding fissure (you prob will) but the more experienced ones have already been dealing with fissure missing a lot

RouDeR

Maikon wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.

This is how i do 2 million damage in a BG and 20 kills right?, u obviously dont know how to play Proc nobo. I dont kill with burst , i kill with constant pressure . Every BG game i have atleast 10 kills and 1 death at most . And i am on first places at leadervoards with my "Harmless " tank .

SanTii.92

RouDeR wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.

This is how i do 2 million damage in a BG right and 20 kills , u obviouslu dont know hownto play Proc nobo. I dont kill with burst , i kill with constant pressure . Every BG game i have atleast 10 kills and 1 death at most . And i am on first places at leadervoards with my "Harmless " tank .

Ok ok. there is no way in hell you do 2m dmge with that build. It's nice tanking tho.

RouDeR

SanTii.92 wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.

This is how i do 2 million damage in a BG right and 20 kills , u obviouslu dont know hownto play Proc nobo. I dont kill with burst , i kill with constant pressure . Every BG game i have atleast 10 kills and 1 death at most . And i am on first places at leadervoards with my "Harmless " tank .

Ok ok. there is no way in hell you do 2m dmge with that build. It's nice tanking tho.

Roll to the end of the video and see the final statistic .

HeathenDeacon

Megabear wrote: »

I've actually seen this Magden PvP destroy Mag Sorc 1v1 over and over in Rawl. It was amusing to watch because the Magden was about 530CP and Mag Sorc was 630CP. Yes I have no idea what the gear situation was for either one of them but the way Mag Sorc kept challenging the Magden looked as if he couldn't believe he was losing.

on ps4?... sounds suspiciously familiar. im a cp 530ish magden that deuls in rawl ka...

xaraan

ParaNostram wrote: »

Forgot to mention how both that ability and cliff racers are undodgeable. Forgot to mention their amazing ability for burst healing. Forgot to mention their rather solid sustain.

Don't get me wrong, I kill Wardens all the time, but much like skilled magsorcs currently, a skilled magwarden is borderline unkillable.

And the fact that they can do shalks while standing on the bottom of say a tower and hit/knock down people two or three levels above them. I mean, it's a good thing they fixed some heals so line of sight stops them, apparently this doesn't apply to damage. edit: and i should add that it's not just happening by chance - I'm seeing players exploit this and stand on other levels to avoid any danger to themselves and spam the ability.

SanTii.92

RouDeR wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

Maikon wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

Seeing as how you are a straight tank build, you couldn't kill a mudcrab if you tried.

This is how i do 2 million damage in a BG right and 20 kills , u obviouslu dont know hownto play Proc nobo. I dont kill with burst , i kill with constant pressure . Every BG game i have atleast 10 kills and 1 death at most . And i am on first places at leadervoards with my "Harmless " tank .

Ok ok. there is no way in hell you do 2m dmge with that build. It's nice tanking tho.

Roll to the end of the video and see the final statistic .

Lol, I see. Props man, it's a pretty smart build.

Nemesis7884

don't talk to me about wardens until you give me back my physical damage passive

Lexxypwns

What's your advice if the warden is back baring 2h ulti with infused oblivion glyph in no CP?

Own

SanTii.92 wrote: »

So after the recent amount of topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.

1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that bluish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Congrats!! You have successfully learnt how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.

You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.

Edit. Got pointed out the correct color of the aura. Now is truly a bulletproof guide, thanks.

Please edit your first post to include the fact that the CC is blockable, but the damage is not. So blocking the Stamina morph does nothing except drain stam. People are going to be worse off if you don't.

Malmai

SanTii.92 wrote: »

So after the recent amount of topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.

1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that bluish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Congrats!! You have successfully learnt how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.

You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.

Edit. Got pointed out the correct color of the aura. Now is truly a bulletproof guide, thanks.

Yea watch auras dodge and than wait 3 seconds blocking, sounds really good plan in cyro waiting for the zerg to come and than u get spammed by birds nice plan...

Ep1kMalware

SanTii.92 wrote: »

So after the recent amount of topics and comments discussing the overpowerness of mwardens I've decided to write this detailed guide on how to easily beat them, please bear with me.

1. Identify when wardens are casting Deep Fissures. It's that bluish aura on their feet. It's hard to miss, really.
2. Make sure you are holding block 3 seconds after they do.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Congrats!! You have successfully learnt how to beat wardens. Now you are just facing a watered down msorc with lesser shields, even more repetable and predictable patterns, no form of hard Cc whatsoever, and no mobility that expose them so hard to snares and roots.

You can now stop with the mindless complains, thx.

Edit. Got pointed out the correct color of the aura. Now is truly a bulletproof guide, thanks.

Never had an issue with wardens. I just stand there and let them hit me until I get bored, then when I get bored I just burst them down like they're a 20k health dps dummy.

red_emu

Don't worry. Warden will get nerfed to the ground soon. We will be left with light attacks and mushrooms. New play style: stand on the spot and glow like a lightbulb throwing useless abilities that have such delay, the enemy can tip toe out of the way, until you run out of magica throwing mushrooms that heal for maybe 10% of what magplar can self heal. Oh and forget about DOTs. Those don't and won't exist.

#makewardengreatagain

Edit: I don't play tank warden so I don't have much experience with the only role a warden is good for.

mandricus

RouDeR wrote: »

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

#meta

I think this video shows how broken magwardens are for Battlegrounds.
Infinite sustain, infinite heal, ultimate spam, almost unkillable, and yet able to pull damage at the same time.
But PvEers keep saying that MagWardens needs a buff. Oh dear, these guys......

Waffennacht

If I nothing nice to say I shouldn't say anything at all lol

Smmokkee

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Break cc and then roll dodge through the warden, just like you do with a templar spamming sweeps. Fissure is no more a problem than incap strike.

Not being able to dodge a spammable, high damage ability is another matter altogether...

Oddly enough, silence works on warden stamina abilities like sub assault and cutting dive.

Dodge is too effective in the game at the minute, but undodgeable damage is likewise too effective.

Dodge is to effective??? What about sheilds or permablocking? Its a main form of defense for medium armor builds (so *** squishy) I wish dive went through all forms of defense.. with the way you guys defend it, it only makes sense.

If I'm not dodging I'm dead. If I'm being chased by a group I'm dodging a lot because its really my only form of mitigation. However 1 single warden can come in and bypass my main form of defense by spamming ond button. This causes me to block which kills my mobility which most of the time results in my death. Say what you want to say this type of bs never happened before wardens and no I probably wouldnt of died anyways.

If anything it should of been unblockable, not undodgeable.

A good warden can put up a mil+ dmg in every bg they play.

Nerf Cliff Racer. It wont kill the class.

RouDeR

Waffennacht wrote: »

If I nothing nice to say I shouldn't say anything at all lol

U are big time *** man hqhq , i dont even have caltrops sloted xD. I deal damage and kill pple suck it up.

Maikon

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Wing

when a thread has to be made on the forums claiming a class is not OP and how to beat them. . .its OP. happened way back in the day for DK's, same for sorcs, etc.

funny enough its always people playing the class that reassure us that they actually suck and are easy to kill. . .