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Are you happy with the nerf on proc sets?
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)
How is that random? It's a 100% chance on a melee attack with a cooldown.
The term PROC specifically refers to sets that have a chance to do something.Edited by Voxicity on July 18, 2017 9:09PM0 -
Flaminir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »No the nerfs aren't enough.
They think the damage on selene is 'ok', they left tremor snare and left skoria.
My selene has a 17k tooltip on my nb. 'Balanced'
^^^THIS!
While I generally love the stuff they have done in the new patch, especially aroudn Weapon traits & Mundus stones, it feels like the work on proc sets is only half finished...
Like they managed half a job, got to a friday PM and were rushing and said... 'Quick.... no time left... erm.... chuck a quick nerf on Ilambris... who cares if its not used in PvP or is a problem, its a proc... we'll get to the others later'.
Selene is still bonkers, the more PvE oriented sets feel like a nerf too far, and theres a few that just haven't really been touched.
Its got the feel of a project that still needs a few more incrementals, or another phase to it in the next major update once the powers that be realise that they didn't go far enough in some cases and too far in others.
That said... ZoS has listened and started work on proc sets... so thats a positive thing, I just think we need to view it as 'phase 1' in a piece of unfinished work and give constructive feedback accordingly so they can make further tweaks.GM of the Unholy LegacyPC/EU/EP0 -
BohnT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes!
How is that random? It's a 100% chance on a melee attack with a cooldown.
The term PROC specifically refers to sets that have a chance to do something.
You know that random isn't to be taken literally. A chance of 100% is still a random chance, although it will occur every time.1 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)
How is that random? It's a 100% chance on a melee attack with a cooldown.
The term PROC specifically refers to sets that have a chance to do something.
You know that random isn't to be taken literally. A chance of 100% is still a random chance, although it will occur every time.
Nah m8, just naaaaaaaaahEdited by Voxicity on July 19, 2017 1:39PM0 -
Euant✭✭✭Yes!I don't PVP but enough people consistently complain about it that I feel like it was inevitable. Whether something is objectively OP or not is always trumped by a person's perception of said OPness.0
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Noisivid✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)I want a Proc set that has a 50% chance of reflecting Procs...
no cooldown of course Vogon Poet Laureate0 -
jaye63✭✭✭✭Improve the rest... never nerf. This is why beta testing was invented. Nerfing makes my time and money pointless.0 -
Megabear✭✭✭✭✭
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Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Firstly, yaaaay, biased poll.
Secondly, whatever you consider OP now will be replaced with something next patch.
You cant win. Only consume.2 -
Kay1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »The only people happy about the nerfs are the ones who are too lazy to farm their own sets or have L2P issues.
Any of you wanna teach me how to play? I wanna learn to proc setK1 The Big Monkey0 -
PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes!leepalmer95 wrote: »No the nerfs aren't enough.
They think the damage on selene is 'ok', they left tremor snare and left skoria.
My selene has a 17k tooltip on my nb. 'Balanced'
^^^THIS!
While I generally love the stuff they have done in the new patch, especially aroudn Weapon traits & Mundus stones, it feels like the work on proc sets is only half finished...
Like they managed half a job, got to a friday PM and were rushing and said... 'Quick.... no time left... erm.... chuck a quick nerf on Ilambris... who cares if its not used in PvP or is a problem, its a proc... we'll get to the others later'.
Selene is still bonkers, the more PvE oriented sets feel like a nerf too far, and theres a few that just haven't really been touched.
Its got the feel of a project that still needs a few more incrementals, or another phase to it in the next major update once the powers that be realise that they didn't go far enough in some cases and too far in others.
That said... ZoS has listened and started work on proc sets... so thats a positive thing, I just think we need to view it as 'phase 1' in a piece of unfinished work and give constructive feedback accordingly so they can make further tweaks.
Leave the Selene set alone. It has a "telegraph" like the selene boss fight now. Only idiots standing still will be hit with it...Besides, in PvP, if you're standing still, you're dead.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)leepalmer95 wrote: »No the nerfs aren't enough.
They think the damage on selene is 'ok', they left tremor snare and left skoria.
My selene has a 17k tooltip on my nb. 'Balanced'
^^^THIS!
While I generally love the stuff they have done in the new patch, especially aroudn Weapon traits & Mundus stones, it feels like the work on proc sets is only half finished...
Like they managed half a job, got to a friday PM and were rushing and said... 'Quick.... no time left... erm.... chuck a quick nerf on Ilambris... who cares if its not used in PvP or is a problem, its a proc... we'll get to the others later'.
Selene is still bonkers, the more PvE oriented sets feel like a nerf too far, and theres a few that just haven't really been touched.
Its got the feel of a project that still needs a few more incrementals, or another phase to it in the next major update once the powers that be realise that they didn't go far enough in some cases and too far in others.
That said... ZoS has listened and started work on proc sets... so thats a positive thing, I just think we need to view it as 'phase 1' in a piece of unfinished work and give constructive feedback accordingly so they can make further tweaks.
Leave the Selene set alone. It has a "telegraph" like the selene boss fight now. Only idiots standing still will be hit with it...Besides, in PvP, if you're standing still, you're dead.
The telegraph won't do anything. Have you seen the sheer size of the aoe area?
It hits basically everytime it procs for me. It damage is far too high for 1 piece of armor bonus. It hits harder than most ults.
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Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Needs more nerfing. These should not be the meta in battlegrounds, it is disgusting.Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.1 -
redshirt_49✭✭✭✭Yes!Never really cared about it much, though I use Viper myself. If this nerf hurts your ability to effectively get kills, you were doing something wrong.
If you think this nerf will save you because you were getting killed because of viper proc, think again.
Nothing will change, move along.0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vanthras79 wrote: »Needs more nerfing. These should not be the meta in battlegrounds, it is disgusting.
there will always be a meta, no matter how severely gear is nerfed.
people 'adapt, improvise, overcome.'0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Some were nerfed, then more were introduced. I like the viper nerf but the nerf to g rothdar, ilambris were unnecessary.0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Can we get the blanket crit nerf from procs removed? Zos goes and throws us crit builds under the rug and thinks we just gotta forget about it?!
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Dr.NRG✭✭✭✭Its going in the right direction but definitely needs more nerfing. I think best would be to get rid of em in pvp and let em crit again in pve!Edited by Dr.NRG on July 19, 2017 6:32AM.0 -
RGFors✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)If you PVP you're happy if you don't, the nerfs suck. I truly wish they could make pvpers just battle "naked". Then no more nerfs to pve.0
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Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes!Yep. I'd love to actually be able to respond to being hit.
http://imgur.com/a/AwZvw.
Note i now play with more hp still 17K from single hits do suck and I am a hypocrit because I like one shotting people as well just without procs.0 -
Rahotu✭✭✭they nerfed some current proc sets,who knows what melange of nefarious proctations they have planned (or ready to send in live but unplanned)0
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