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  • PriorityBalle
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    Go away.

    What i hear from all players in MMO's with Auction Houses is that they would love a feature like trading guilds cause and that their current Auction House option is dull and tedious.
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  • Khami
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    Here's a reason why there will never be a server auction house.

    There's two servers total per system. Six servers total.

    Games like WoW have over 20 servers in North/South America that start with the letter A. No server in WoW has 100,000+ players on it, which I'm being generous on the low end on how many people log in on a daily basis.

    If you think there will be stability with an auction house with what could be close to a million people on one server, you really don't understand what problems it will cause. Nor do you understand how many other games with an AH aren't on a megaserver like this one.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Khami wrote: »
    Here's a reason why there will never be a server auction house.

    There's two servers total per system. Six servers total.

    Games like WoW have over 20 servers in North/South America that start with the letter A. No server in WoW has 100,000+ players on it, which I'm being generous on the low end on how many people log in on a daily basis.

    If you think there will be stability with an auction house with what could be close to a million people on one server, you really don't understand what problems it will cause. Nor do you understand how many other games with an AH aren't on a megaserver like this one.

    BDO shares the same AH throughout all the channels on the same mega server and they have millions of players as well
  • Cavedog
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    Just say NO! to an auction house.

    If you think high demand items are expensive now, imagine that times a factor of at least 10x if everyone can go to one place and buy up all the good stuff, then put it back in the same store but demand even more money for the items.

    No to an auction house. They just make the rich richer, and create class divisions in game.
  • Jamascus
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    Two thoughts

    1. Could be that it's the newer players who finally get to the point of complete frustration that they post a request for a good universal auction house, thus new posts every week or so.

    2. Curious if ZOS has said it's never going to happen, why are the self proclaimed OG's wasting time telling us week after week what a great system the guild AH is?

    1. correct
    2. because they enjoy extorting people, the only thing I've heard from the devs is that with the server configuration they could not implement global auction house. Howver, that was before Tamriel without borders (or w/e useless rebranding they did last fall)
  • Jamascus
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    Voxicity wrote: »
    No thank you


    Search function is all that's needed

    A search function that search's all guild traders, not just the ones you're a part of.
  • Runs
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    They should keep guild kiosks as is, and add an Auction House that functions on crowns instead of gold and allows selling of BoP items(except Monster head/shoulders, Maelstrom and Master weapons). Everything has a 5 crown cost to list. Players get 90% of the winning crown bid/buyout, the other 10% plus listing cost is absorbed to ZOS.

    Players who can't afford crowns win as they can sell stuff to get them. Players who have money but lack time to play win cause they can buy the stuff they need. ZOS wins cause eventually someone will see something they "need" and be forced to buy crowns.
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  • DuchessPoptart
    I feel like zone chat has more or less become an auction hall. And watching how people interact with each other there i am ok with there not being an auction hall
  • Tandor
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    Damianos wrote: »
    They have already stated that there is no chance at all, period, zip, none that they will do a world wide auction house. While your opinion is shared with the vast majority of forum activists, it's never going to happen, time to protest for something that there is a chance for... like more emotes or scandalous attire for your characters.

    What they could do is add auctioneer's to each zone and pool all info from that zone from all the guilds into that auctioneer also allowing others to place like 10 items per week or so without trading guilds just to get in on the game.

    This.

    Limiting the trading system and game economy to a restricted number of players and then depriving all console players of the addons that are commonly recognised even by the present system's supporters as essential if it is to be considered even halfway decent is simply absurd. The system needs improving and opening out to all players - but an auction house isn't necessary to achieve that and may or may not be the best way of achieving a proper trading system.
  • Vizikul
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    Darlgon wrote: »
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    Please.. just.. no.. there are 1 million auction hall threads since launch.. we dont need another one.

    The reason there are so many is that a LOT of people feel there should be one. This argument is about 50/50 for vs against.

    The argument is a moot point.

    ZoS has said they will never have an auction hall. Your options are to accept or move to another game.

    There is still another option. Reject all of the other options and complain about the lack of an auction house until the servers shut down... because why not? It's called free time for a reason.
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  • Noisivid
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Damianos wrote: »
    They have already stated that there is no chance at all, period, zip, none that they will do a world wide auction house. While your opinion is shared with the vast majority of forum activists, it's never going to happen, time to protest for something that there is a chance for... like more emotes or scandalous attire for your characters.

    What they could do is add auctioneer's to each zone and pool all info from that zone from all the guilds into that auctioneer also allowing others to place like 10 items per week or so without trading guilds just to get in on the game.

    This.

    Limiting the trading system and game economy to a restricted number of players and then depriving all console players of the addons that are commonly recognised even by the present system's supporters as essential if it is to be considered even halfway decent is simply absurd. The system needs improving and opening out to all players - but an auction house isn't necessary to achieve that and may or may not be the best way of achieving a proper trading system.

    Get rid of the player run Trade Guild system.

    All ZOS really needs to do is to allow individual players to buy into the merchant trader stalls for a set percentage of the sale price based on the location. no trade guild needed
    Selling through the Rawlkha and Mournhold stalls would cost a high percentage and that guy out in the sticks of Coldharbour costs considerably less.

    This way everyone could access the trade system and it would still be fragmented in hopes of forestalling manipulation.
    yeah, it could have it's own problems; like just about everybody using a few traders.

    just spinning this off the top of my head, haven't really thought about it too much
    Edited by Noisivid on July 17, 2017 2:28PM
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  • idk
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    OP's sexism sentence is that without an auction house there is no real way to create an economy in the game.

    Clearly OP in completely wrong since there is a very robust and active economy in ESO.

    I stopped reading at that point since I didn't expect the line of thought to improve. Besides, it doesn't matter, we have guild traders and that will remain. There will not be an auction house in this game for the foreseeable future, probably never
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    *sigh*

    No.

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  • Drachenfier
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    Go away.

    What i hear from all players in MMO's with Auction Houses is that they would love a feature like trading guilds cause and that their current Auction House option is dull and tedious.

    LOL yea right B)

    I love this system. Spent 45 minutes searching for a recipe, and I finally found it! I was so proud...then another 45 minutes before the mail finally arrived. This is the best system ever.


    Note that my post is literally dripping with copious amounts of sarcasm. This is hands down the worst trading system I've ever seen, bar none.
  • Demycilian
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    Devs should be required to play their own games for some length of time. Our crappy trade system wouldnt last a month.
    Edited by Demycilian on July 17, 2017 3:53PM
  • Malamar1229
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    oh an auction house! what an original idea we have not seen on these forums about 10,000 times already
  • Malamar1229
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    so easy to spot a millennial
  • QuebraRegra
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    AUCTION HOUSE! now. it's QOL needed.

    want to buy an infused Baharah's Curse dagger, so of course I will spend the next week wasting good play time screwing around in the horrific guild trader UI.

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  • Bouldercleave
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    oh an auction house! what an original idea we have not seen on these forums about 10,000 times already
    so easy to spot a millennial

    Almost as easy as it is to spot a complete tool.

    There is a reason that there are so threads on the forums about it. People are generally not happy with the current system, and an AH is the only other thing that they know. I don't think a global AH is the answer personally, but I do feel there needs to be a MUCH better way to search, buy, and sell (especially search) than the current system provides.
  • InFernalEntity
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    What about letting players outside the guild list items at vendors for a % cut of the profits set by the guild?

    Players get to sell items anywhere they choose. Limited access of course. 15 items per alliance. For a total of 45. (a player in even 2 trade guilds can list 60 items so maybe less than a total of 45)

    The guilds that own the trader still make a profit because of listing fee and the % cut. So a guild would determine outsiders need to pay 15% or 40% or however much the guild deems acceptable. And if the item sells for 10k then the guild get 1.5k or 4k.

    Also add a search function because I don't wanna scroll through pages of purple motif chapters/purple rings etc. Look for the exact right thing. Let me search by name in addition to quality and trait etc.

    Edit: Make this feature opt-in / opt-out. So guild can maintain their exclusivity if they want to.
    Edited by InFernalEntity on July 17, 2017 4:38PM
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  • Cardhwion
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    Two thoughts

    1. Could be that it's the newer players who finally get to the point of complete frustration that they post a request for a good universal auction house, thus new posts every week or so.

    2. Curious if ZOS has said it's never going to happen, why are the self proclaimed OG's wasting time telling us week after week what a great system the guild AH is?

    I too started a few months ago and at first had troubles with trading, encountering several trade guilds with demands I could not meet. It was someone here at the forums that told me that not all trade guilds were like that and another two weeks in... I found a trade guild that works for me and now I am at the point where I could meet the demands of many other trade guilds, but I happen to like the guild I am in now.

    So yes, for a new person it can be a bit overwhelming at first... but it can be learned and it is not rocket science.
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  • VvardeFellow
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    I say yes, but I am apprehensive because of unforeseen consequences. Looking back to the days of standing around in the East Commonlands yelling to sell or buy, I say yes. I must say, I don't understand why our friends at Z came up with the present system.
  • Absolut_Turkey
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    The mmos with the BEST economies DO NOT use centralized AH. For example: Eve Online has an economist that oversees their ingame economy, and guess what? NO centralized AH.
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  • Bouldercleave
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    Almost all of the pain points from a buying standpoint would be solved with a COMPREHENSIVE search function.

    I have no idea how to solve the monopolized and manipulated trader locations. If the same guilds have the same prime spots week after week with the smaller guilds having no choice but to be exiled to the far remote outskirt locations, then something needs to be done.

    You all talk about the rich getting richer with an AH, but how is that any different from the 6 guilds monopolizing the same spot in Rawkla for the past 3 years? No other guild even stands a real chance of picking up one of these spots.

    The one guild trader in Vulkhel Guard (sp) has been held by the same guild on PC/ NA since launch. How is that a fair trading system?
  • Reverb
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    Jamascus wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    Based on this and your other threads, you are either a dedicated (if unimaginative) troll, or you have a deep desire to make ESO just like other games.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in the cash shop.
    Try to appreciate the differences, if you can't do that, consider moving back to one of the games that fit your narrow perception of what makes an mmo "good".

    Just because ESO is different does not make it better. But, it is not P2W, yet...

    And just because it's not what you're used to in other games, doesn't make it worse.
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  • Drachenfier
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Jamascus wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    Based on this and your other threads, you are either a dedicated (if unimaginative) troll, or you have a deep desire to make ESO just like other games.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in the cash shop.
    Try to appreciate the differences, if you can't do that, consider moving back to one of the games that fit your narrow perception of what makes an mmo "good".

    Just because ESO is different does not make it better. But, it is not P2W, yet...

    And just because it's not what you're used to in other games, doesn't make it worse.

    weeeelll, it kinda does

    in other games I can go to a central location, search for what I need, and buy it if it's available. So yea, it is worse.
  • idk
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    Cardhwion wrote: »
    Two thoughts

    1. Could be that it's the newer players who finally get to the point of complete frustration that they post a request for a good universal auction house, thus new posts every week or so.

    2. Curious if ZOS has said it's never going to happen, why are the self proclaimed OG's wasting time telling us week after week what a great system the guild AH is?

    I too started a few months ago and at first had troubles with trading, encountering several trade guilds with demands I could not meet. It was someone here at the forums that told me that not all trade guilds were like that and another two weeks in... I found a trade guild that works for me and now I am at the point where I could meet the demands of many other trade guilds, but I happen to like the guild I am in now.

    So yes, for a new person it can be a bit overwhelming at first... but it can be learned and it is not rocket science.

    This is another great example that the system works for players and works for ESO.
  • FelixTheCatt
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    Noone is listening. I promise.

    If there was an auction house , those in the biggest trading guilds couldn't control the game's economy. That's why there is resistance to it , period.

    Just get used to being price gauged with inflated prices and ridiculous "guild dues". Besides gotta remember the old shadow guild bidding scams that are rampant on Ps4 NA which everyone knows about which gets ignored.
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    oh an auction house! what an original idea we have not seen on these forums about 10,000 times already

    And its working alot better than this system ever did, ironic isn't it?
  • Royaji
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    All the pro-AH people tend to ignore the fact that guildstores act as giant gold sink that prevents inflation. Just one high-tier location like Belkrath takes 30-50 millions of gold away from the game every week. Because of this gold sink even the most expensive items like sharpened weapons only cost 250-400k and not 2-3 millions like in many other MMOs with a server wide Auction House.

    To pump the same amount of gold out of the system with an AH the tax on sales should exceed 50% of the transaction. Are you guys ready to sell your items without guilds but only get 30-40% gold from it? I'm not so sure about that.
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