Are BOTS going to ruin ESO like they did with linage 2

SirAndy · July 2017

Nermy wrote: »

I haven't seen any in over 2 years.

You're obviously not looking very hard then, bots are *literally* everywhere and they are not hard to spot.

Dhukath · July 2017

Talon_Draconis wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

X-Box? Not PC then?

I did not think the xbone was hackable that is one reason I play on it but it seems i noticed then start appearing about 2-3 months ago...but now they seem to be everywhere

Any system is hackable, or at least open to macros. Items such as the CronusMAX allow complex macros and can even be use to run scripts on both Xbox one and PS4, and are virtually undetectable.

mb10 · July 2017

lmao stop over reacting
Bots dont exist on console first of all. You cannot have a programme on console doing your work for you so thats out the equation already,

And if they did exist, all they would do is lower the prices of materials and make our lives easier anyway lol

Meld777 · July 2017

mb10 wrote: »

all they would do is lower the prices of materials and make our lives easier anyway lol

This. Show bots some love. Next time you encounter a bot, take a moment to thank it for farming cheap mats for you.

Most of you are still young and not interested in having your own bots. I was like you once. But trust me, once you have your own bots, you will think differently. It's like they're part of your account. How time flies... Just 2 years ago they were some noob chars acting on a click macro. They couldn't even outperform the crafting hireling. And now they're fully automated war machines that kill everything in their path without leaving a single Columbine behind.

ZOS would never take my bots away from me! They understand the special relationship between a man and his bots.

Kaymorolis · July 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

I haven't seen any in over 2 years.

You're obviously not looking very hard then, bots are *literally* everywhere and they are not hard to spot.

What exactly does a bot look like?

SirAndy · July 2017

Kaymorolis wrote: »

What exactly does a bot look like?

Obviously scripted behavior is obvious ...

zaria · July 2017

Ashtaris wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Talon_Draconis wrote: »

Will bots and gold selling ruin ESO
They took over linage 2 until bots and gold sellers out numbered humans.
BOT guilds took over all the resources
Completely destroyed the game.
I see the the same thing happening here!

Where are these bots? I haven't seen any in over 2 years.

If you haven't seen them. then you are not playing the game. I regularly see them when doing my crafting survey maps in Shadowfen and Rivenspire. Any place that has a large number of creatures (zombies, wolves, skeever, dreugh, etc.) that can be easily farmed for mats, gold, and xp.

Think part of the issue is that back at launch they was run by gold sellers so they had idiot names and all looked the same.
Now they are player run making them harder to spot unless you hang around for some time.
Its a bit hard to see if its players grinding or bots unless they behave weird, either too organized or one guy hanging back stabbing air all the time. My proof of bots was that they did not react on dolmen.
In fact my first thought was that it was an dolmen group grinding random mobs until dolmen respawned.

Turelus · July 2017

CarbonX wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

They're not ignoring it

Really Turelus?

1 - Why there have been bots in Glister Vale for more than two years now?

2 - Why THIS post of mine hasn't been addressed after almost 4 months now?

Thank you.

I'm not saying ZOS ban bots at a decent pace, nor am I saying that they have means to stop new comes coming in but they do act when they have a means to do so.

The issue is that our tickets seem to go nowhere unless we get them escalated. Which is why I keep bringing up how ZOS need to streamline things.

They're also not a company that addresses things and tells people when they've taken action which only goes to make the view they do nothing even worse.

I believe they care and they do want to stop it, I just don't think their current tools are efficient enough. We also as a community have to start working on putting pressure on people not buying gold etc. in the first place.

MasterSpatula · July 2017

Man, if you think bots are bad now, you should have been here at the beginning. Yowza!

zaria · July 2017

Dhukath wrote: »

Talon_Draconis wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

X-Box? Not PC then?

I did not think the xbone was hackable that is one reason I play on it but it seems i noticed then start appearing about 2-3 months ago...but now they seem to be everywhere

Any system is hackable, or at least open to macros. Items such as the CronusMAX allow complex macros and can even be use to run scripts on both Xbox one and PS4, and are virtually undetectable.

Scripts are not bots, and I suspected you could use an scripted controller.
You can use it to drop an AOE all the time, has seen that on pc, you could probably make an single node farming script.
Animation canceling and scripts work well together but that is another story.
However you could not make an script to run around, you could probably make one who rotated you a bit did AoE and some self heal and so on but running require some sort of cheat engine getting data from game.

nimander99 · July 2017

I don't know how many there are, but yeah, theres bots. Wardens particularly. At one dolmen in EP lands I saw 7 wardens all wearing the same gear with generic names just standing still until the dolmen dropped then they fought but it was erratic... You could tell it was bot and not a person.

Although I always try to give benefit of the doubt, one player I thought was a bot I whispered to and they responded right back, he/she knew I thought they were a bot so they carried on a convo for a minute then we each said have fun.

I recommend whispering first, if that doest work say something in general chat, like "Are you a bot" no response, Report. Let ZoS do their job.

Heroeric1337 · July 2017

In EVERY popular MMO you'll find bots. If it upsets you that much, you probably will wanna go find a less popular MMO that notbody would bother botting

Megabear · July 2017

Heroeric1337 wrote: »

In EVERY popular MMO you'll find bots. If it upsets you that much, you probably will wanna go find a less popular MMO that notbody would bother botting

Unless of course this game bleeds fanbase until botters have no more players to feed on.

Jamascus · July 2017

What's a linage 2?

Megabear · July 2017

Jamascus wrote: »

What's a linage 2?

Let me help you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineage_II
http://www.lineage2.com/en/

Elsonso · July 2017

Turelus wrote: »

I doubt it. Whilst ZOS are not fast at dealing with them they're not ignoring it.

The issues just seem to be getting the report to the ban handled faster.

If we do a normal report it can take a week or more for it to be dealt with, however if we report a bot and give a ticket number ZOS escalate it and boom, bot banned.

Streamlined systems, education of the player base (stop buying gold FFS!) and we can make this a winning war.

Yeah, handling the ticket before it starts celebrating birthdays and learning new words would be cool.