I remember reading 48K DPS somewhere here today. Cant be all bad.

Knootewoot wrote: »

As a fellow nightblade..... I am glad Viper gets a nerf (if you can call it a nerf). Armor should not do the fighting for you with a massive damage. For PvE it might be a nerf, for PvP it is a (bandaid) fix.

But then, I am a magblade who does not use proc sets.

Armor is always fighting for you, unless you fight naked.
What is next "bright" BS nonsense we should use as mantra on forums?

• Weapon should not do the fighting for you with a massive damage
• Tank should not do the shielding of you against a massive damage
• Healer should not be healing you trough a massive damage

List equally R (offending to some ppl I guess) to what many on this forums repeat about armor.
Meanwhile, some other classes use 1 button spamming ranged AOE execute... Shall we also spew bs how "skills should not da the fighting for you with a massive damage"?

Shadowasrial wrote: »

Since launch you have slowly taken away what makes a nightblade a nightblade. You have first put a cap on crit chance in pvp, then you nerfed crit damage bonuses from stealth. You nerfed our cloaks, now your nerfing penetration. Your nerfing viper ( arguably the only set that nightblades have to be on par with other class metas) it's as if you don't want eso to have a rogue class. Idk if you have played any other mmos but a rogue class is supposed to have supper high burst and crit damage. It's meant to be able to kill a single target quickly. But your steadily nerfing us harder and harder. You add super powered proc sets that give magic builds even more advantage in battle that compliment thier class skills. As a stam build we have a couple decent monster sets that are useful but in comparison to the magic counterparts are vastly underpowered. Bring back the real rogue class zos! There was nothing wrong with being able to blow away any Single target we choose to attack. That's nothing compared to magic classes that can literally wipe out 10+ players at once. But you seem to think that a class that can virtually one shot a single player after a carefully lined up attack is too much. Play your game zos nightblades need tons of love.

Oh my so many things I dont agree with that it'll be long post.I want to make it clear that I am talking all of this as person who also played a nb both stam and mag in PvP.

Fisrt there was never cap on critical chance in PvP.Nerfing critical dmg from hide was right choice as nb and few races offers already enough dmg bonus for opening hidden attack and You still have auto crit on 1st attack from hide as nb which is pretty enough. Cloak ballance was good , purging 5 DoT's with using 1skill that also makes You invisible was joke. Sharpened nerf is good and at place and touches everyone in same way. This trait was overperforming for very long and it's finally time to make something with it. Viper nerf is ballance to all stamina builds. Other class metas was basicly also viper+something. Stamina nb dont need viper to be effective and with viper plus other proc set stamina nb is not in par but way above other builds.

Yes rogue class is supposed to have burst and kill enemies quickly and every MMO offers that but other MMO's put some limitations over that usually cooldowns on skills or debuffs for constant vanishing or just making rogue burst good opener but not one shoter. In ESO You can constantly roll dodge and cloak and deal very high burst dmg each few seconds without any restrictions and basicly with almost limitless resources. Stop comparing ESO to other MMOs because it have different type of rogue then them.

In terms of monster sets I would say there is similar number of usefull 2 piece monster sets for stamina and magicka builds and there is much more 5 piece proc sets for stamina users then for magicka. There is nothing like "real rogue class" each game offers its own vision to that playstyle so dont try to make ESO version of rogue just another copy of other titles rogues.

If one player can kill 10 players that's never that 1 player skill or game imballance which do that but lack of skill from those 10 players. The only time it was easily possible was with....magicka nb bomb build. There is nothing like "carefully lined up attacks" on stamina nb atm. Wearing 1 proc set gives enough burst when using incap to kill almost everyone in seconds , wearing 2 proc sets with incap allows to kill literally everyone and all You need to do is clicking 2-3 buttons. Viper+selene combo requires no skill at all atm and for sure no "carefully lined up attacks".

Stamina nb wearing viper+selene+eternal hunt is so easy to play that i stopped to playing it afrer day or 2 beacuse it was too boring and too easy to kill people. Stamina nb gets nerfs that was needed same like game overal changes that touching not nb only was needed. I can agree that stamblade could need some improvements to survivality in open fights where build is pretty squishy but those improvements cant be for free.

Just delete NBs from the game PvP wise, thx.