Tryxus wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

Magblades have died off and gone extinct every patch for the last what? 2 years?

Since Thieves Guild, ZOS has been slowly killing them

Sorc, depending on your build (DW Overload) Sorc's had Nerf after Nerf since TG also, from wards, mag cost increase, to duel wield power reduction to Ultimate slashing to 500. Especially Magika while Stamina ruled the roost thru 2016.

2017 Curse gets one more tick, scamp gets an extra pulse streamers says its META and boom people lose their mind.

On console StamBlade still has highest vMSA score.....first to break 600k.....

Vercingetorix wrote: »

80% of the time is spent holding down the attack button with a lightning staff.

waaw, that's quite a heavy HA-rotation? sure you have equipped skills?

I do ONE heavy attack in my rotation! yes ONE...

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So they will switch to Julianos now like every other class is using. Silly how a crafted set will outperform some of the hardest to grind sets in the game.

Not silly. Good. Grind is the worst aspect of this game.

Morvane wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Always amazes me, how people can be so focused on sorcerer

the main antagonist of this game is sorcerer (Mannimarko) despite of protagonists which are DK, NB and templar
this is a hidden reason)

Insightful

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

Lame, zos likes to nerf sets that I have golded, first bsw and now scathing...

That's why you've got double bank space for ESO+ in morrowind XD

But seriously, I've got like half of the bank space filled with golden gear that is no longer the best option, just in case it is viable once again in the future.

I like the constant changes, otherwise the game's getting pretty dull and boring. Morrowind was to kill dk tanks and templar healers. I've never had so much fun tanking and healing, that I do now. Sustain nerfs? It has actually made the game much more interesting, you have to take care of your sustain, not just repeat the exact same rotation over and over (though, you still can if you put HA in your rotation). You get the game, it's up to you what to do with it. I've already confirmed, that this upcoming patch will net me some dps increase on my two favorite dps characters (with only minor changes!). Some things got nerfed, some things got buffed.

Now... if it wasn't for the awful, mind numbing, time consuming grind every single patch...

Yeah, I know, offtopic, but seriously, how so small a change is supposed to kill a class? It might affect your cp distribution and gear choice at worst. OP repeats like a mantra, that some overperforming players do not equate to the performance of a class across entire playerbase. True, but neither is an underperforming player, that blames miniscule changes for his/her failures.

Well they still will be able to do good damage i bet. However there's still two problems with MagNBs compared to MagSorcs.
First: Sorc's rotation is a lot easier. And i mean A LOT. Second: Sorcs don't need to sacrifice their DPS to increase their self-healing. Well not nearly as much as NBs at least. So why pick up MagNB over MagSorc? Right now when i feel like doing vMA or solo something that isn't supposed to be done solo MagSorc is my go-to choice.
PS
It's not a "nerf sorcs" post and i only compare MagSorcs and MagNBs cuz these are only mag DPS classes i ever used.

Jesus. Still crying about Nightblades, huh?

Docmandu wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

So they will switch to Julianos now like every other class is using. Silly how a crafted set will outperform some of the hardest to grind sets in the game.

It will take a new player much much much longer before he's able to craft Julianos, than he is to get whatever else is BiS together!

Being able to craft Julianos is a huge investment in time and dedication.. why should that not be allowed to be use/compare-able to a PvE grind set!

You know there's different kinds of players in this game... those that love PvE, those that love Questing, those that like PvP, those that like Trials, those that like Crafting, ... don't be selfish and expect the entire game to be build around YOUR playstyle!

It takes long to get a set of Julianos? Most crafters do it for 5k tip at most if you provide the mats.

I have Lv41 stamDK, and he feels OP. Like they said, I am not a Noob and this OP is overacting.

Scyantific wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

@Scyantific you still don't get boosted light/heavy attacks, ults and wall of elements. That's like 30% of your damage. If you aren't going to use those then you're obviously not shooting for end game dps at which point it won't really matter what you use - everything works just fine.

@DRXHarbinger specifically said he wouldn't be using WOE or Destruction Staff Ult because he's using Master Architect for the Major Slayer buff with the uptime being near 100% because of Soul Harvest. So the light attacks would be ~10% of his DPS.

I am so glad that someone understands. People really need to stop bleeting like sheep meta this and that they don't understand. I can pull 40k dps on a magdk using silks, TBS and a master inferno, no wall of elements, no monster set, no meta nothing. Just because people having spammed it on YouTube does not mean it's no good and just because some people actually are just plain gods at ani cancelling does not mean their gear is the best up.

OT I seem to recall the forum exploded not so long ago wanting crafted sets to be buffed? Ffs this is it. 6 days of crafting and you've got it. Try actually farming ICP for divines scathing mage...I still DO NOT have a divines belt...I have only ever ever ever had prosperous drop. Scathing mage was only better by a slim margin and only to those who mastered the rotation. Not every proctard in the game actually had benefitted from this set.

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Keep_Door wrote: »

Overreacting much ?
Yes.

Of course new players don't care because they have nothing to lose by switching classes or gear. This isn't an overreaction - this is the truth - it is what it is. Choosing to ignore it only continues to harm the game. People like yourself are contributing to the problem by ignoring it.

I believe my solo pvp magplar build is doing just fine. Sorcs are just easy to play so there you see people swapping bc they are easiest to get good results on.

L2P issue right here

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Sorc itself is ok after morrowind nerf, but the exploiter passive needs to be nerfed to like 5% or so that *** is heavily exploited by almost every sorc build atm

@lauykanson

It's exploited by every PvE build that does well. Why do you want to need everyone?

mostly just sorc i think, they are the only class that deals enough shock damage to exploit the passive( Solo situations). And I am not saying that people are wrong with using meta build. But right now it's more like equip double lightning or go *** youself with much lower dps...dosen't sound quite right when ZOS keep emphasizing build diversity?

Zoliru wrote: »

rustic_potato wrote: »

They fixed a bug that should have been fixed ages ago. Stop whining and complaining and L2P. Morrowind killed both my primary classes magplar and magsorcs. You think playing a class that has HA braindead meta is fun? mNB is the only reason I'm still dpsing in trials.

Have you tried playing a sorc without Heavy Attacks?

Zoliru wrote: »

rustic_potato wrote: »

Zoliru wrote: »

rustic_potato wrote: »

They fixed a bug that should have been fixed ages ago. Stop whining and complaining and L2P. Morrowind killed both my primary classes magplar and magsorcs. You think playing a class that has HA braindead meta is fun? mNB is the only reason I'm still dpsing in trials.

Have you tried playing a sorc without Heavy Attacks?

yes ... and i can barely drain myself and when i do ? so what 3 heavy attacks and back to spamming my abilities...

its not the end of the world.... using a weapon is an integral part of Elderscrolls games not just spam your abilities...

you people got to used to play this game like all the other MMOS where you just spam your class abilities thats the prob....

The dps loss is significant enough to just keep using HA rotation. I'm not talking about casual play where you complete a normal dungeon in 2 hours of "fun" gameplay. At the game's true endgame sorcs became the most boring and faceroll class.

Dymence wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

@Scyantific you still don't get boosted light/heavy attacks, ults and wall of elements. That's like 30% of your damage. If you aren't going to use those then you're obviously not shooting for end game dps at which point it won't really matter what you use - everything works just fine.

@DRXHarbinger specifically said he wouldn't be using WOE or Destruction Staff Ult because he's using Master Architect for the Major Slayer buff with the uptime being near 100% because of Soul Harvest. So the light attacks would be ~10% of his DPS.

I am so glad that someone understands. People really need to stop bleeting like sheep meta this and that they don't understand. I can pull 40k dps on a magdk using silks, TBS and a master inferno, no wall of elements, no monster set, no meta nothing. Just because people having spammed it on YouTube does not mean it's no good and just because some people actually are just plain gods at ani cancelling does not mean their gear is the best up.

You don't understand. The meta is the meta for a reason. It's been mathematically tested in theory and practice. Noone says you can't do well with your own build, but it won't ever be nearly as good as the meta.

The meta is only good in the meta players who can master their rotation. Just because the pros pull 45k doesn't mean you will just for having the gear with *** all idea.

But cool story. Stop trying to appear like a pro.