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Noricum Sessions - Small scale PvP [Videos] (Updated 09/07)

  • Derra
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement (also i think there is a difference between two people permablocking + warden healult on cd to a DK who´s main def is rolldodge and lash heal).
    Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate. Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.
    Edited by Derra on July 10, 2017 5:59AM
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  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.
    Edited by NightbladeMechanics on July 10, 2017 5:41AM
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  • Derra
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    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.

    Oh no - you have a newer one. The video before that. Specially the fight against EP around the stone at roe farm?

    They´re just sooo hesitant.
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  • Etaniel
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    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.

    I think that's probably the main difference, the pack sizes. I haven't even tried to play solo this patch, just because it's become so rare to find suitable 3-4 man sized groups of "1vX" material ^^

    Every fight starts pretty much by taking a soul assault, bow ulti or destro ult to the face when I solo, which means I gotta have an ult and a potion ready in the first 10 sec of the fights.

    I've got the cash to buy my current gear setup on NA, so I might try to solo there, but i'm still relatively low CP (335) so I dunno if it'll work that well.
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  • Magıc
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    As I said, pugs on EU travel in packs of 100. I watch NA streams, play on NA and find enough 1v3-6 fights. On EU? I attack a solo player and 100 stealth procblades/bird spammers come out to play.
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Magıc wrote: »
    As I said, pugs on EU travel in packs of 100. I watch NA streams, play on NA and find enough 1v3-6 fights. On EU? I attack a solo player and 100 stealth procblades/bird spammers come out to play.

    This.

    The little I bother to play ESO these days - this seem to be what always happen.

    Nice videos though, Etaniel! Great job as always B)
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  • Ishammael
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    Etaniel wrote: »

    I've got the cash to buy my current gear setup on NA, so I might try to solo there, but i'm still relatively low CP (335) so I dunno if it'll work that well.

    You could probably find "1vX material" on the no CP campaign. There are some real potatoes there.

    Unfortunately, the experience would likely be frustrating. it is overwhelming populated by NBs in stealth, bow-spamming or running procs. Also, all of the no CP imbalances exist which are totally frustrating (especially on a mDK).

    PS. This latest video was great!
    Edited by Ishammael on July 10, 2017 1:07PM
  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Derra wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.

    Oh no - you have a newer one. The video before that. Specially the fight against EP around the stone at roe farm?

    They´re just sooo hesitant.

    Oooh yea that fight. Those guys are not the norm here by any means either, but yes every now and then you can find a group like that.

    They had so many lowbies and low cp players that I remember wondering during the fight what on earth was going on. I remember realizing that I could push out into them more boldly than I usually can, and reassuring my friend that we would wipe them if we played it slow and steady around that rock. Then a couple other DC showed up toward the end, and we just rolled them.

    You are right though, that is two groups in three weeks of basically brain dead opponents. Do you never run into abusable groups like that in EU? I'm so interested in this. Lmao
    Edited by NightbladeMechanics on July 10, 2017 1:46PM
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  • Etaniel
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    Derra wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.

    Oh no - you have a newer one. The video before that. Specially the fight against EP around the stone at roe farm?

    They´re just sooo hesitant.

    Oooh yea that fight. Those guys are not the norm here by any means either, but yes every now and then you can find a group like that.

    They had so many lowbies and low cp players that I remember wondering during the fight what on earth was going on. I remember realizing that I could push out into them more boldly than I usually can, and reassuring my friend that we would wipe them if we played it slow and steady around that rock. Then a couple other DC showed up toward the end, and we just rolled them.

    You are right though, that is two groups in three weeks of basically brain dead opponents. Do you never run into abusable groups like that in EU? I'm so interested in this. Lmao

    Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling them brain dead... but the very last fight on my last video might be what you are looking for ^^ Yuke has the same fight from his POV on his last video as well.
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  • Scyantific
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    Magıc wrote: »
    Pugs on EU travel in packs of 100

    :cold_sweat:

    Not much different than watching DC pugs on NA/PC Sotha, or the EP zerg on Vivec NA/PC.
  • Iyas
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    @NightbladeMechanics the last video is a pretty good showcase on EU random players.
    These players do the same things and approach with the same numbers regardless if you´re solo/duo or 4 people in group.

    Eh those look like pretty standard small scale fights over here too. Poke a zerg, string a bunch out, turn, and kill them. My guys and I get these sorts of fights all the time. As for the enemy players themselves, they appear to move, take damage, heal etc just as well...or poorly...as NA pugs.

    The difference might come down to numbers. It is my understanding that EU is more populated than NA. How many active campaigns do you have during non-prime time hours? Do people ever string out as 1-6 or so at a time, or is it always 8-10 or more like you're fighting here?

    It is not uncommon on NA for players to roam from their spawn keep to the next enemy keep fight alone or as 2-5, prime pickings for a solo player who can kill them before the next pugs come along on their way to the fight. You can draw a handful of them off the main zerg lane, get your fight, then move back into the lane for more.

    Assuming it isn't lagging to all hell.. :blush:

    Great video, regardless. You guys clearly know what you're doing. I enjoy Kitesquad videos. Is Noricum a new guild, or what happened there?

    @NightbladeMechanics
    Noricum was always Derra / Yuke / Iyas' guild, which I joined about 2 years ago I think?

    We created KiteSquad when we made EP characters to recruit people on that side.

    Now that we play DC again, we wear our original Noricum tabards :)

    Ok cool that makes sense. I enjoy watching you guys play. Those are the kinds of fights we go after when I'm not solo roaming.

    It´s the fights you get on eu regardless of you being solo or in group.
    Most of the time in the morning it´s even worse bc the only thing travelling between keeps is literally 20 players.

    Idk about the poor healing no dmg statement. Just look in the difference in behavior when looking at your last vid.
    You can always get them to stop pressuring and hesitate.
    Here it´s instant movement + pressure while moving away.

    If you're referring to the people I killed in IC center, they were basically NPCs. They are not the norm in NA. The players in your video are the norm, they just seem to travel in smaller packs over here. The rest of the fights in my video were against pretty high damage players.

    Oh no - you have a newer one. The video before that. Specially the fight against EP around the stone at roe farm?

    They´re just sooo hesitant.

    Oooh yea that fight. Those guys are not the norm here by any means either, but yes every now and then you can find a group like that.

    They had so many lowbies and low cp players that I remember wondering during the fight what on earth was going on. I remember realizing that I could push out into them more boldly than I usually can, and reassuring my friend that we would wipe them if we played it slow and steady around that rock. Then a couple other DC showed up toward the end, and we just rolled them.

    You are right though, that is two groups in three weeks of basically brain dead opponents. Do you never run into abusable groups like that in EU? I'm so interested in this. Lmao

    Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling them brain dead... but the very last fight on my last video might be what you are looking for ^^ Yuke has the same fight from his POV on his last video as well.

    And I missed it :(
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