Sharp Nerf Incoming, to to grind... again.

Morgul667 · July 2017

Will precise really be better than nirn?

Kihamai · July 2017

Did some testing around on the PTS and found that Precise weapons + The Lover mundus stone to be the best setup for DPS, at least for my Magblade.

I don't have any nirnhoned Maelstrom weapons, so I can't test that. ):

Izaki · July 2017

Oh Sharp is far from being BiS guys. Very far.

http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

^ Shadow mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

^ Lover mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Oh Sharp is far from being BiS guys. Very far.

http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

^ Shadow mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

^ Lover mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

Did you test with sharp?

firedrgn · July 2017

Seems like nirn will,be king. 100 cp and a mundas stone will cover shrpened.

Dravecailean · July 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Oh Sharp is far from being BiS guys. Very far.

http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

^ Shadow mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

^ Lover mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

Which sets you running for that? (I assume precise back bar being vma bow obviously)

Dravecailean · July 2017

*double post

Septimus_Magna · July 2017

The sharpened changes are interesting, normally everyone would run close to 18k pen (with debuffs) because that gave full penetration and it was simply more effective than having more weapon/spell dmg or crit.

Now it might not be as effective to run full pen because you basically have to sacrifice the worth of a mundus stone.

@Dymence
Is the Spell Erosion CP front loaded like the other %based trees?
If not, the logical thing to do would probably be a lot more CP into Spell Erosion, wouldnt it?

And for magsorcs running necro, could the Mage mundus be interesting?
Seems like stacking max magicka just got even more efficient.

Vapirko · July 2017

Curious to see how a precise maul would match up agaisnt a sharp greatsword in pvp.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2017

Dravecailean wrote: »

*double post

It says in under the pictures, 5 Hunding's, 5 Two-Fanged, 2 Kra'gh, vMA Bow. 2 Daggers.

MLGProPlayer · July 2017

Precise necro staves are being sold within minutes of being posted lol. I managed to scoop up 3 infernos and 1 lightning so far. The competition is fierce.

I sold a precise lightning staff for like 20k last month.

Destyran · July 2017

So now? Precise will be the new sharpened @ZOS_GinaBruno you just created a new BiS there is no change precise or bust. You guy need to bring the other traits up to the power of sharpened

MLGProPlayer · July 2017

Morgul667 wrote: »

Will precise really be better than nirn?

Dropped sets don't come in nirn trait.

MLGProPlayer · July 2017

Destyran wrote: »

So now? Precise will be the new sharpened @ZOS_GinaBruno you just created a new BiS there is no change precise or bust. You guy need to bring the other traits up to the power of sharpened

There will ALWAYS be one best trait. It's an inescapable fact of stats-based games. One combination of stats will always be better than the rest for a specific situation.

Morgul667 · July 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Will precise really be better than nirn?

Dropped sets don't come in nirn trait.

True, but VMA staff do come in nirn trait and I happen to have one (I dont have sharpened but suddenly I feel better about that :-D )

So I wonder if Nirn will be a thing again. Like precise on main bar and nirn on back bar ?

Knootewoot · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Depend in my opinion Sharpened will still be BIS for PVP.

For DW if you can 1 nirn 1 sharp would likely be best.

nirn main hand, sharp off hand.

I already run like this. Because I didn't have gold mats to improve my sharpened, I run with the only golden nirn I had pre-nerf.

Sadly it's a sword of a set I don't use anymore and therefore I miss my monster set (only helmet).

I just wish I found 2 sharpened warmaiden swords so it would be easier for me to mix and match some sets.

LadyDestiny · July 2017

A lot of us are still grinding to gear from morrowind update.

Subversus · July 2017

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

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Alucardo wrote: »

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Alucardo wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Spinner got nerfed, too. Any item set that has a "Armor/Spell Penetration" effect on it got reduced by 55%. FYI

According to the patch notes only the 1-4th pieces are affected. So spriggan/spinner should be unaffected

What other sets have spell and weapon pen?

Kraghs has physical pen. I've never really pen sets, so I have no idea

There isn't any. How about you load up the pts and check?

He just pointed one out, and at least one of the new sets had a spell pen bonus.

Lol.

Alucardo wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Spinner got nerfed, too. Any item set that has a "Armor/Spell Penetration" effect on it got reduced by 55%. FYI

According to the patch notes only the 1-4th pieces are affected. So spriggan/spinner should be unaffected

What other sets have spell and weapon pen?

Kraghs has physical pen. I've never really pen sets, so I have no idea

There isn't any 1-4 piece that have spell pen, so of course they are talking about those sets, plus probably twice fang snake. How about you load up the pts and check?

wot?

Edit: oh spell pen? No there's not

Lol.

Tryxus wrote: »

Flame Blossom (Light)
(2) Max Magicka
(3) Spell Damage
(4) Spell Penetration
(5) When you deal damage, you have a 10% chance to summon a line of flame that moves forward, dealing 8,000 Flame Damage to any enemy in its path. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

So you think they added a set then nerfed it right away? Lol

You might not understand how this works, as soon as they created Kraghs, they created 1/2/3/4 piece penetration value, just because a set didn't exist with it yet doesn't mean that value didn't exist.

Having checked the pts, kraghs is the only set to have changed. My original assumptions were wrong. My bad.

Lol.

SoLooney · July 2017

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

I have multiples of every Maelstrom stamina weapon in every trait, and magicka-wise was only missing a sharpened inferno and lightning staff. This approaching patch will be so glorious.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

SoLooney wrote: »

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Explain this one to me.

Not sure how the trait change was pvp's fault..

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Explain this one to me.

Not sure how the trait change was pvp's fault..

It's always those dirty PvP'ers faults! They took 'er jerbs!

KingJ · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Explain this one to me.

Not sure how the trait change was pvp's fault..

No matter what it's always PVP fault even when Devs tell everyone it's a change because of PVE its PVP fault.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2017

Subversus wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Spinner got nerfed, too. Any item set that has a "Armor/Spell Penetration" effect on it got reduced by 55%. FYI

According to the patch notes only the 1-4th pieces are affected. So spriggan/spinner should be unaffected

What other sets have spell and weapon pen?

Kraghs has physical pen. I've never really pen sets, so I have no idea

There isn't any. How about you load up the pts and check?

He just pointed one out, and at least one of the new sets had a spell pen bonus.

Lol.

Alucardo wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Spinner got nerfed, too. Any item set that has a "Armor/Spell Penetration" effect on it got reduced by 55%. FYI

According to the patch notes only the 1-4th pieces are affected. So spriggan/spinner should be unaffected

What other sets have spell and weapon pen?

Kraghs has physical pen. I've never really pen sets, so I have no idea

There isn't any 1-4 piece that have spell pen, so of course they are talking about those sets, plus probably twice fang snake. How about you load up the pts and check?

wot?

Edit: oh spell pen? No there's not

Lol.

Tryxus wrote: »

Flame Blossom (Light)
(2) Max Magicka
(3) Spell Damage
(4) Spell Penetration
(5) When you deal damage, you have a 10% chance to summon a line of flame that moves forward, dealing 8,000 Flame Damage to any enemy in its path. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

So you think they added a set then nerfed it right away? Lol

You might not understand how this works, as soon as they created Kraghs, they created 1/2/3/4 piece penetration value, just because a set didn't exist with it yet doesn't mean that value didn't exist.

Having checked the pts, kraghs is the only set to have changed. My original assumptions were wrong. My bad.

Lol.

I admit I am wrong and you laugh? My logic was sound. There was no evidence provided so I had no reason to believe different. Then I look at it myself. Seen that I was wrong and corrected myself, like a reasonable person would. I am not afraid to be wrong. I am also no afraid to be corrected like a lot of people that take no stance on anything. So lol all you like dude.

Bobby_V_Rockit · July 2017

Hehe

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Explain this one to me.

Not sure how the trait change was pvp's fault..

Because sharpened

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

KingJ wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

So was this the answer to the complaints people had about bad drops like precise and nirnhoned from vma? lmao, good one zos

BTW, thanks again pvp for ruining pve

Explain this one to me.

Not sure how the trait change was pvp's fault..

No matter what it's always PVP fault even when Devs tell everyone it's a change because of PVE its PVP fault.

Well if the PvP'ers didn't take 'er jerbs, none of us would be in this mess.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

I'm so glad i didn't buy my sharp warmaidens swords 600k each on ps4 eu.

On another note im not sure to go precise or sharp now for my pvp mag warden build.

Its going to use shadow and has 45% crit currently, that would be 54% with gold precise.

Worth losing 2.7k pen for 9% crit?

ZoM_Head · July 2017

I guess Alkosh will be used again for tanks in PvE.

PvP i think spriggan and spinner + cp penetration will still be the best option.

Lets see.

scrobey · July 2017

A low key heavy armor buff... Gottttttt eeeeeeem!!

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'm so glad i didn't buy my sharp warmaidens swords 600k each on ps4 eu.

On another note im not sure to go precise or sharp now for my pvp mag warden build.

Its going to use shadow and has 45% crit currently, that would be 54% with gold precise.

Worth losing 2.7k pen for 9% crit?

Depends on a lot but more then likely no. As last around 1750 pen was equal to 7% crit on average builds. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262295/nirnhoned-precise-and-sharpened/p1