Sharp Nerf Incoming, to to grind... again.

Dravecailean

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Dravecailean wrote: »

*double post

Dravecailean wrote: »

*double post

It says in under the pictures, 5 Hunding's, 5 Two-Fanged, 2 Kra'gh, vMA Bow. 2 Daggers.

Derp, didnt load on the phone. Interesting parse, I still don't have quite mastered the rotation to that level but gives me hope.

Dymence

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The sharpened changes are interesting, normally everyone would run close to 18k pen (with debuffs) because that gave full penetration and it was simply more effective than having more weapon/spell dmg or crit.

Now it might not be as effective to run full pen because you basically have to sacrifice the worth of a mundus stone.

@Dymence
Is the Spell Erosion CP front loaded like the other %based trees?
If not, the logical thing to do would probably be a lot more CP into Spell Erosion, wouldnt it?

And for magsorcs running necro, could the Mage mundus be interesting?
Seems like stacking max magicka just got even more efficient.

It's a route I'm interested in and will be testing, but I'm not sure how good it will be. Necropotence pretty much got buffed across the board though with a 13,3% increase to 1,2,4 piece magicka boni. Add to that the mage going up from 1.3k magicka to 2k magicka and you'll be hitting a lot higher magicka than before. If it will actually be good enough? Needs testing

leepalmer95

Necro will be going up about 390 magicka, not bad.

Rex-Umbra

Sharpened will still be best for DMG nirn might be better but that is mostly crafted weapons

SilverWF

Adjusted the values and bonuses of most Weapon Traits in the following ways, with the listed values being for Two-Handed, gold-quality items:
Decisive: Increased the chance to generate one additional Ultimate to 40% from 34%.
Defending: Reduced the Spell and Physical Resistance granted to 2752 from 5160.
Infused: Increased the bonus value granted to the applied enchantment to 30% from 20%, and increased the cooldown reduction to the applied enchantment to 50% from 40%.
Nirnhorned: Increased the bonus to the weapon’s damage to 15% from 11%.
Powered: Increased the bonus to healing done to 9% from 7%.
Precise: Increased the Critical Strike Chance granted to 9% from 7%.
Sharpened: Reduced the Spell and Physical Penetration granted to 2752 from 5160.
Charged, Intricate, Ornate, and Training remain unchanged.
The Prosperous Armor Trait has been re-designed to give it a combat function. It now grants 11 Health, Magicka, and Stamina Recovery as a gold-quality item, instead of gold gain.

Just a BS...

theamazingx

Since everyone is too busy panicking to bother with math:

Sharp>precise>nirn


The only difference is that now sharp is only a percent or so above precise, meaning that precise maelstrom weapons or set weapons are better than a trash sharp staff, which is definitely a good thing.

Flameheart

Beardimus wrote: »

Or glass half full, stop grinding and use the hoard of Maelstorm weopons you kept just in case that are now viable.

Change is good

You mean the ones I destroyed because there was no bank space because we formerly had just a lousy number of bank slots available ?

Izaki

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Oh Sharp is far from being BiS guys. Very far.

http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

^ Shadow mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

^ Lover mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

Did you test with sharp?

Yes and I'm not posting that parse because it was terrible in comparison to these 2.

Vaoh

Quick Important Notes:

Spell and Weapon Crit bonuses were buffed by 55%!

• Hunding's Rage and Julianos are now truly great all around for PvE and are craftable!!! No need to grind too much when you can slot weapons in these sets in your chosen trait as well if choosing this route. In other words, the disparity between crafting endgame gear and farming what is "BiS" has decreased even more
• Nirnhoned is great for weapons, likely the best for most DPS, as it should've always been. Precise is also great, and Sharpened still decent too.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Vaoh wrote: »

Quick Important Notes:

Spell and Weapon Crit bonuses were buffed by 55%!

• Hunding's Rage and Julianos are now truly great all around for PvE and are craftable!!! No need to grind too much when you can slot weapons in these sets in your chosen trait as well if choosing this route. In other words, the disparity between crafting endgame gear and farming what is "BiS" has decreased even more
• Nirnhoned is great for weapons, likely the best for most DPS, as it should've always been. Precise is also great, and Sharpened still decent too.

Soooooo, NMG is also good? I crafted a nirnhoned legendary dagger back months ago in that set hoping this would happen lol

Vaoh

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Quick Important Notes:

Spell and Weapon Crit bonuses were buffed by 55%!

• Hunding's Rage and Julianos are now truly great all around for PvE and are craftable!!! No need to grind too much when you can slot weapons in these sets in your chosen trait as well if choosing this route. In other words, the disparity between crafting endgame gear and farming what is "BiS" has decreased even more
• Nirnhoned is great for weapons, likely the best for most DPS, as it should've always been. Precise is also great, and Sharpened still decent too.

Soooooo, NMG is also good? I crafted a nirnhoned legendary dagger back months ago in that set hoping this would happen lol

NMG is still good rn. In a raid, it should be run by one Stam DPS assuming there is more than just that one DPS on a Stamina character.

But to answer your question, it's definitely a yes. That'll be a valuable dagger!

Patch is very early so it's still difficult to say what is really "best" right now though.

mb10

Great change.

It wasn't right for sharpened to just automatically be BIS for every scenario

teladoy

I bought 2 weeks ago a Necropotence destro staff for 300k, now i feel me like a ***.

W0lf_z13

just spent the weekend farming sharpened sun weapons .... got 2 sharpened swords, 1 inferno and 1 resto .... and now this........................

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Oh Sharp is far from being BiS guys. Very far.

http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

^ Shadow mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

^ Lover mundus, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar

Did you test with sharp?

Yes and I'm not posting that parse because it was terrible in comparison to these 2.

would you kindly do it anyways?

Vaoh

The real question:

IA or Moondancer now? I'm thinking IA based on the ~13% increase to Max Magicka bonuses and 55% increase to Spell Crit bonuses.

@IzakiBrotherSs I know you're on PTS.... mind testing plz? I'd appreciate it

Izaki

Vaoh wrote: »

The real question:

IA or Moondancer now? I'm thinking IA based on the ~13% increase to Max Magicka bonuses and 55% increase to Spell Crit bonuses.

@IzakiBrotherSs I know you're on PTS.... mind testing plz? I'd appreciate it

Yeap will do! I'll keep you posted

Magıc

In PvE: Precise weapons, lover mundus, few cp into pen = same as usual.

PvP sharp will still be best imo, infused and precise may be good too, doubt nirn will. Spinners/spriggans will possibly make a come back. Still be sticking to shadow mundus on my sorc, but will test lover mundus.

leepalmer95

Magıc wrote: »

In PvE: Precise weapons, lover mundus, few cp into pen = same as usual.

PvP sharp will still be best imo, infused and precise may be good too, doubt nirn will. Spinners/spriggans will possibly make a come back. Still be sticking to shadow mundus on my sorc, but will test lover mundus.

Well both sharp and precise are still useless vs shields.

But precise will boost heals.

Just a thing to think about.

When people do the maths completely if sharp is only doing like 1% more dmg i'll go with precise and shadow.

Magıc

Oh also, I'm super glad of this update. I've got sharpened weapons (-vma inferno) but the fact I have to run sharpened pretty much everywhere in order to be relevant was stupid. Sharpened was godlike, that's why they didn't leave sharpened alone and just buff the rest.

phileunderx2

Have a precise SPC resto staff going to have to try it out.

Danksta

I'm glad I didn't decon my precise and nirn vMA weapons.

Vipstaakki

YES! Sharpened will finally be nerfed! Time for a party! Now all they need to do is to declare Precise the new BiS and the day will be complete.

Lylith

once again, in the tradition of fixing what isn't broken, defending become even MORE of a throwaway trait.

note to zos: some *** you really CAN just leave alone. seriously. it's a waste of time and resources diddling with it.

there's no lack of problems in this game that really need to be fixed, yes?

leepalmer95

Lylith wrote: »

once again, in the tradition of fixing what isn't broken, defending become even MORE of a throwaway trait.

note to zos: some *** you really CAN just leave alone. seriously. it's a waste of time and resources diddling with it.

there's no lack of problems in this game that really need to be fixed, yes?

Defending was BIS for back bar pvp tbh.

Lylith

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Lylith wrote: »

once again, in the tradition of fixing what isn't broken, defending become even MORE of a throwaway trait.

note to zos: some *** you really CAN just leave alone. seriously. it's a waste of time and resources diddling with it.

there's no lack of problems in this game that really need to be fixed, yes?

Defending was BIS for back bar pvp tbh.

did it need a nerf?

*** no.

pizzaow

it sounds like with the buffs to all the stones, TBS with the lover and thief might become much more popular.

Malamar1229

Magıc wrote: »

In PvE: Precise weapons, lover mundus, few cp into pen = same as usual.

PvP sharp will still be best imo, infused and precise may be good too, doubt nirn will. Spinners/spriggans will possibly make a come back. Still be sticking to shadow mundus on my sorc, but will test lover mundus.

Ilsabet

So what will be the preferred weapon trait(s) for healers?

oMrRust

Ilsabet wrote: »

So what will be the preferred weapon trait(s) for healers?

Powered?
It is being buffed from 7% to 9%