hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.
Yea I mean the console specs speak for itself I mean it's deff a beast of a machine compared to the majority of gaming pcs atleast that's how I feel and it alreay@SwaminoNowlino
Only your post is invalidated. Because you see that the PC players might get the patch sooner than the console people would but then that violates the terms of service of the Xbox uploaders. So when the code doesn't match, the code doesn't match. The main problems is that ZoS doesn't get the patches ready to Microsoft until the PC beta testers have tried it on the PTS. Therefore the end users of that content are null and void. The only way to speed up the patch process is to put a banana in your Xbox until the money pops out.
Why didn't you think of that?
#getTrolledScrub #grammar #getRekt #noETA #otherEsoMemes
Your 100% wrong good try though please troll some where else or atleast read the thread you have no idea what your talking about
Lol @ the fact that I can just construct sentences upon sentences of nonsensical words and someone actually attempted to decipher it.
Thanks for your comment that has nothing to do with the thread please troll else where this is a serious thread
hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Show me a build for a gaming PC that can run games at 4k with 60 FPS for 700-800$ to get a PC to do that it's at least a grand.Most of those are on the High end gaming scale of PC.MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »
Xbox one x will as good as most high end pcs if not better it will render true 4k gaming and 60 fps or better depending how dev choose to use the extra power all you need to do is look at the specs buddy
Don't feed the "PC Master" trolls. And especially don't feed them with advertised specs for the One X. I've always played on console, but I am by no means a fan boy for one platform over the other. Honestly, if the One X delivers 50% of what is actually advertised when its actually in use I will be surprised. The PS4 Pro was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and it never lived up to the performance metrics advertised. The One X is highly unlikely to outperform the PS4 in any appreciable way. I'd love for it to, but to get similar performance on a PC, you would need a graphics card that costs more than the entire console. So they're definitely going cheap on the build somewhere (I see red rings of death in the future). But that's all just speculation. And not the point of this thread anyways.
TLDR: Console players are well aware of the console certification process. The console certification process excuse doesn't even fit, since Gina told us they weren't submitting it ASAP, but sticking it in a scheduled incremental instead. All us console players want is to get emergency patches for completely broken content in a timely fashion. If it costs ZOS money, then oh well. That's what they get for releasing busted content despite being warned.
Lol it already has they showed it off it it's up to dev to use the extra power but it's deff there
XB1X specs are on par with a mid-level gaming PC (GPU is usually the equivalent of an X60 Nvidia card). Consoles always release as mid-end gaming PCs. The XB1X is no different (most games will still be running at 30 fps). The cost to create an actual "high end" console would be enormous. Console manufacturers use cheap hardware and then game devs optimize games to squeeze out every last drop of performance from the hardware.
Ide love to see the mid teir pc that can hit 4k 60 fps on games like battle field for 500 bucks I'll get that instead lol
You're not going to be able to build a mid-end gaming PC for $500, but definitely for ~$700-800. There is no denying that consoles give more bang for your buck (because console manufacturer's use custom hardware that has had certain features shaved off, plus they buy hardware in bulk). But giving more bang for your buck =/= competing with gaming PCs.
Yea I mean the console specs speak for itself I mean it's deff a beast of a machine compared to the majority of gaming pcs atleast that's how I feel and it alreay@SwaminoNowlino
Only your post is invalidated. Because you see that the PC players might get the patch sooner than the console people would but then that violates the terms of service of the Xbox uploaders. So when the code doesn't match, the code doesn't match. The main problems is that ZoS doesn't get the patches ready to Microsoft until the PC beta testers have tried it on the PTS. Therefore the end users of that content are null and void. The only way to speed up the patch process is to put a banana in your Xbox until the money pops out.
Why didn't you think of that?
#getTrolledScrub #grammar #getRekt #noETA #otherEsoMemes
Your 100% wrong good try though please troll some where else or atleast read the thread you have no idea what your talking about
Lol @ the fact that I can just construct sentences upon sentences of nonsensical words and someone actually attempted to decipher it.
Thanks for your comment that has nothing to do with the thread please troll else where this is a serious thread
I'm just having a bit of fun with ole' Swami. Calm down forum patrol. At least I refreshed your thread, right?
If it makes you feel any better, there is literally zero chance ZoS would ever reply to a thread like this. No matter how constructive and well reasoned it is. They'll read it... maybe take notes... but they won't open a dialogue about it. ZoS doesn't have an open dialogue forum. The only people they will actually address directly and accept meaningful feedback/criticism from are the streamers. Would could ZoS possibly say here?
"All - Thank you for your feedback. We recognize that console players would like to expedite the update process as new content and patches are released. However (insert any excuse)".
Excuses on why they're doing the best they can will range from difficulties with how their server interfaces with Xbox. The Microsoft patch process in general, The size of their patches. Whatever.
hamburgerler76 wrote: »Can you all believe console is still on day 1 morrowind patch nightblade heavy bug and battleground ques still *** not a single patch to help us yet so they can save some money and we get it mid this month good thing we couldn't save money by buying wit crowns and we had to spend 40$ cuss this support is A plus !
leepalmer95 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Can you all believe console is still on day 1 morrowind patch nightblade heavy bug and battleground ques still *** not a single patch to help us yet so they can save some money and we get it mid this month good thing we couldn't save money by buying wit crowns and we had to spend 40$ cuss this support is A plus !
bgs patch is coming wednesday.
puffytheslayer wrote: »since the game launched on console i have given the game the benefit of the doubt & been patient. NO MORE
i'm sick of showing respect to a company that doesnt give a *** about 2/3rd's of the player base. eso+ cancelled, no interest in the next DLC,
not quitting - just checked out!
I thought everyone on console understood delays in patches were almost always because of Playstation Plus and Xbox Live? Blame Sony and Microsoft for being slow to allow content distribution. They screen almost every app and update before it's released.
mmolegends44 wrote: »Nobody can talk about what goes on ps4 the they have the most problems then any other system that is on eso I never heard xbox having any problems that ps4 have it is pathetic
disintegr8 wrote: »Because I read the forums, the issue I have as a console user is that I know what will not be working when new content is released for console. I don't have to encounter them myself because I have read about them from PC users.
This is good in some ways because I don't waste time trying to get around the issue, throwing my controller through the TV or otherwise getting frustrated. I might just avoid using the affected content until the issue is fixed.
The bad part is that even though the issue has been identified before we get the content, I know it will not be fixed any sooner. We will still receive the broken content and will wait several weeks before we receive a fix.
The interesting side note is that when an 'exploit' is found, it seems to always be fixed very quickly. Any glitch that players may find which may lead to an unintended increase item drops, increase how much XP, AP or gold they can earn, is extremely quickly identified and resolved on all platforms.
Some problems have a higher priority than others I guess.
mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
This thread is not about witch platform gets treated the worst. It is about how zos delays console patches to bundle them together to save money ie. Incremental patches. And how we only get major dlc like morrowind and shadow of hist ect. Not bug fixes we sometimes have to wait a month or 2 for any attempt at a fix. Zos blames console cert witch takes no longer then a week, any console player would know as other games drop hot fixes in near days it is time zos steps up and starts giving hot fixes
In a timely manor especially if we are forced to pay for content and can't get it threw crowns. I don't expect it to be in line with pc patch release but for major content breaking bugs like BG qelue a major part of the dlc they need to step up pay for a cert and get us a fix!
puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
This thread is not about witch platform gets treated the worst. It is about how zos delays console patches to bundle them together to save money ie. Incremental patches. And how we only get major dlc like morrowind and shadow of hist ect. Not bug fixes we sometimes have to wait a month or 2 for any attempt at a fix. Zos blames console cert witch takes no longer then a week, any console player would know as other games drop hot fixes in near days it is time zos steps up and starts giving hot fixes
In a timely manor especially if we are forced to pay for content and can't get it threw crowns. I don't expect it to be in line with pc patch release but for major content breaking bugs like BG qelue a major part of the dlc they need to step up pay for a cert and get us a fix!
if you had bothered to read the proceeding conversation you would of seen that @mmolegends44 kept complaining about how bad stuff is for them on PS4, and de-raling the thread,
i was trying to make them understand that both console platforms need to stop bickering over who gets treated the worst and concentrate on why we cant get bug fixes in a timley manner
oh and earlier you refered to me as your brother - im female and not related to you!
hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
This thread is not about witch platform gets treated the worst. It is about how zos delays console patches to bundle them together to save money ie. Incremental patches. And how we only get major dlc like morrowind and shadow of hist ect. Not bug fixes we sometimes have to wait a month or 2 for any attempt at a fix. Zos blames console cert witch takes no longer then a week, any console player would know as other games drop hot fixes in near days it is time zos steps up and starts giving hot fixes
In a timely manor especially if we are forced to pay for content and can't get it threw crowns. I don't expect it to be in line with pc patch release but for major content breaking bugs like BG qelue a major part of the dlc they need to step up pay for a cert and get us a fix!
if you had bothered to read the proceeding conversation you would of seen that @mmolegends44 kept complaining about how bad stuff is for them on PS4, and de-raling the thread,
i was trying to make them understand that both console platforms need to stop bickering over who gets treated the worst and concentrate on why we cant get bug fixes in a timley manner
oh and earlier you refered to me as your brother - im female and not related to you!
Brother does not mean male in this term of reference more a comrade of the console lol sorry though and I had read it, it just seemed as though someone responded to him so no need to continue it trying to keep it on topic thats all.
puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
This thread is not about witch platform gets treated the worst. It is about how zos delays console patches to bundle them together to save money ie. Incremental patches. And how we only get major dlc like morrowind and shadow of hist ect. Not bug fixes we sometimes have to wait a month or 2 for any attempt at a fix. Zos blames console cert witch takes no longer then a week, any console player would know as other games drop hot fixes in near days it is time zos steps up and starts giving hot fixes
In a timely manor especially if we are forced to pay for content and can't get it threw crowns. I don't expect it to be in line with pc patch release but for major content breaking bugs like BG qelue a major part of the dlc they need to step up pay for a cert and get us a fix!
if you had bothered to read the proceeding conversation you would of seen that @mmolegends44 kept complaining about how bad stuff is for them on PS4, and de-raling the thread,
i was trying to make them understand that both console platforms need to stop bickering over who gets treated the worst and concentrate on why we cant get bug fixes in a timley manner
oh and earlier you refered to me as your brother - im female and not related to you!
Brother does not mean male in this term of reference more a comrade of the console lol sorry though and I had read it, it just seemed as though someone responded to him so no need to continue it trying to keep it on topic thats all.
im not sorry for replying to a comment that was directed at me,
and i did keep it on topic, the whole lets work together to get a solution aspect being a huge part of this thread.
but ya know whatever, gl with ur thread, im out
hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »mmolegends44 wrote: »No on pc it is way smoother they have no types of problems like I just said console mainly Ps4 have so many problems and broken issues the lag is the main thing in the game the numbers in cyrodil so many technical issues the list goes on.
PS4 do NOT get it worse than everybody else
i know there are latency issues on PS4 - because i experience them on XBOX and i know others experience them on PC & MAC
just last patch all trials were unplayable for 3 months on xbox sure they were temperamental on the other platforms which led to frustration, but xbox just straight up couldnt play
just last night a problem occured that effected everybody on the NA servers accross all platforms
we need to stop fighting one another, stop arguing over whos server & platform is *** on the most by zos and unite as a community
This thread is not about witch platform gets treated the worst. It is about how zos delays console patches to bundle them together to save money ie. Incremental patches. And how we only get major dlc like morrowind and shadow of hist ect. Not bug fixes we sometimes have to wait a month or 2 for any attempt at a fix. Zos blames console cert witch takes no longer then a week, any console player would know as other games drop hot fixes in near days it is time zos steps up and starts giving hot fixes
In a timely manor especially if we are forced to pay for content and can't get it threw crowns. I don't expect it to be in line with pc patch release but for major content breaking bugs like BG qelue a major part of the dlc they need to step up pay for a cert and get us a fix!
if you had bothered to read the proceeding conversation you would of seen that @mmolegends44 kept complaining about how bad stuff is for them on PS4, and de-raling the thread,
i was trying to make them understand that both console platforms need to stop bickering over who gets treated the worst and concentrate on why we cant get bug fixes in a timley manner
oh and earlier you refered to me as your brother - im female and not related to you!
Brother does not mean male in this term of reference more a comrade of the console lol sorry though and I had read it, it just seemed as though someone responded to him so no need to continue it trying to keep it on topic thats all.
im not sorry for replying to a comment that was directed at me,
and i did keep it on topic, the whole lets work together to get a solution aspect being a huge part of this thread.
but ya know whatever, gl with ur thread, im out
The point is not to respond to off topic trolls like him or her just furthering the conversation if you just ignore him and continue on he gets no satisfaction. He is just trying to justify that pc is better
console players get every patch 2-3 weeks late, its been like that since 2 years, since the start.
At least PC players beta test for you, find bugs and so on.
You just could have canceled your preorder when you heard about all the bugs on PC, no reason to whine about it now.