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Templars need a buff <long>
Drdeath20
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With a few reasonable changes I feel that Templars can be a more competitive class in cyrodil.
-Ultimates-
Aedric spear-stamina already has better cheap offensive Ultimates to choose from in dawnbreaker and the weapon ultimates. Stamplars really could use the defensive morph to help them with build varieties.
Magplars really do need the offensive morph to synergies with their gap closer and sweeps spam.
-suggestions for Skill morphs that need adjustments-
Explosive charge is mainly a pvp skill yet this skill seems more useful in targeting mobs. I feel that this morph should become a stamina morph that also stuns opponents.
Solar barrage is arguably the worst skill morph in the game. I simply cannot find a use for it. This morph should instead be just like dark flare, but instead of defile it should lose its cast time. It will still have travel time but now can be insta casted. That way it will be useful for both pvp and pve. As it is right now dark flare hits hard but the cast time actually lowers your dps and the defile is useless outside of pvp.
Healing ritual and it's morphs is another skill that is just god awful. An instant heal that is not instant is a death sentence. Instead can we change the skill and it's morphs to be a heal overtime.
Repentance needs to offer stamina overtime to group members around you or multiple stamplars should be able to feed off the same corpse. As it is right now, only 1 stamplar in an area gets the primary benefit from this morph.
I believe that these changes are reasonable and will help both stamplars and magplars just enough to be on par with other classes.
-Ultimates-
Aedric spear-stamina already has better cheap offensive Ultimates to choose from in dawnbreaker and the weapon ultimates. Stamplars really could use the defensive morph to help them with build varieties.
Magplars really do need the offensive morph to synergies with their gap closer and sweeps spam.
-suggestions for Skill morphs that need adjustments-
Explosive charge is mainly a pvp skill yet this skill seems more useful in targeting mobs. I feel that this morph should become a stamina morph that also stuns opponents.
Solar barrage is arguably the worst skill morph in the game. I simply cannot find a use for it. This morph should instead be just like dark flare, but instead of defile it should lose its cast time. It will still have travel time but now can be insta casted. That way it will be useful for both pvp and pve. As it is right now dark flare hits hard but the cast time actually lowers your dps and the defile is useless outside of pvp.
Healing ritual and it's morphs is another skill that is just god awful. An instant heal that is not instant is a death sentence. Instead can we change the skill and it's morphs to be a heal overtime.
Repentance needs to offer stamina overtime to group members around you or multiple stamplars should be able to feed off the same corpse. As it is right now, only 1 stamplar in an area gets the primary benefit from this morph.
I believe that these changes are reasonable and will help both stamplars and magplars just enough to be on par with other classes.
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stamina already has a number of gap closers. Leave Explosive Charge magicka. It will just be a redundant change that hurts magplar like the crescent sweep change. Other than that, I am okay with the rest of the thread.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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KingYogi415✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Loving the dark flare idea.
But it should also be undodgble like the wardens birds.
Cheers!1 -
NiclasFridholm✭✭✭✭Just fix the percentage bug for Jabs/Sweeps and they are fine! But some interesting ideas for sure!Edited by NiclasFridholm on July 7, 2017 9:17AMTobias Funke - Magplar since forever1 -
Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Give me a reliable stun pl0x.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While solar barrage is used for pve casual leveling, it does need to be changed. But I'm fine with it being an AOE; it ignores dodge. What it should do, is add potential for increasing delayed DMG. Right now it buffs using the empower buff but that can be found via mage guild buffs.
Instead, it should directly buff eclipse/puryfing light/vamp bane ticks DMG. This way templars can add a hit from solar barrage, which can follow an eclipse burst which will add to a purfying light "soak". Or the skill can add a small percentage bonus to your SD for each enemy hit up to a cap of 10% to promote using solar barrage as the beginning for a burst combo.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hasty ritual is a lot better for ava than anyone gives credit for. It's not a small scale heal, sure. But when you are protected and condensed i have had great success healing with it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »
This is actually solid strat if you are main tanking crow's wood.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »Loving the dark flare idea.
But it should also be undodgble like the wardens birds.
Cheers!
ok , let make also the frag undodgabel .0 -
Flowersquisher✭✭✭Really miss the CC to blazing spear, wish they never took that away. I've managed with most of the other MASSIVE lists of nerfs to my beloved magplar, but this one is a must imho.1 -
Flowersquisher✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »
Best tank ever, bet you wish this tank could lead your raids. Sarcasm in case you missed that, lol1 -
DeHei✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »
Against good DDs you will not have time to make aggro over solar barrage.. and the skill is really bad..
Templar need a stun back. I mean the blazing spear like it was before 2 nerfs..DeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭All they gotta do for barrage is up the damage by like 10% and give it major defile as well. Hell you could take dark flare major defile away to make it more enticing to use.
I would also rather they buff dark flare by 10% as well and take away the empower from it0 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭All they gotta do for barrage is up the damage by like 10% and give it major defile as well. Hell you could take dark flare major defile away to make it more enticing to use.
I would also rather they buff dark flare by 10% as well and take away the empower from it
No. Defile on flare is awesome. Empower is awesome. Leave dark flare out of this conversation.2
