For all that is holy make everything bind on equip!!!

boobafinno · July 2017

You can hire 2-3 players for gold to go with u in any dungeons and they'll drop sets what u need. But i agree with original post.

Artis · July 2017

You don't need BiS gear to play the game.

LadyDestiny · July 2017

I totally agree. The bad rng in this game is out of control. It's not just gear, but every flippin thing is based around this system. Spending time farming is one thing, but when it takes up your whole life and can't enjoy other aspects of the game, well it's time for a change or a fix. We been waiting for a long time as Zos keeps saying they are looking into it.....ha ha

ForsakenSin · July 2017

i hate BOP with a passion it everything should be BOE ( except VMSA) and RNG ... i have better chances of a aliens coming down and giving me their spaceship then getting the items i need in divines in right weight after 200 plus keys wasted or doing the same dungeon over 100 times or playing SoC so many times me and her are on the same name basis and still not one medium helm in divines ..

anyway ... here is my kind of solution .. its a numbers game..

what i mean by that..

lets just say i need a VO to be dropped i have 3 VO only one in training two in divines the RNG changes and gives you 60% more chance for VO to be drop in divines , same as anything else you have on ... the more items of it you have in the trait the more RNG chance is increased by huge %

If you have 5 pieces in divines on you , more chance of that trait to be drop ect

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2017

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Yeah, I agree. I'm sick of Darkshade Caverns. RNG hates me and will not cough up a Netch necklace.

I know your pain. I've been farming Darkshade solo (or with my boyfriend when he could help) and I lost count of all the Training, Prosperous and Well-Fitted pieces I got. They are *definitely* weighted to drop more than good ones.

Narvuntien · July 2017

drake88131 wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

Do you need BiS gear though?
Can't you just make do with some random crafted gear?

Perhaps with some willpower/agility rings.

Seriously though we need jewerly crafting.

Or a way to improve jewelry at least. My stam character still running around with two purple VO rings and one gold neck lol. Not grinding any more vet trial ever. Impossible to find a group after 11:00 pm and vet trial guilds are like a weird school yard social ladder.

Players: can we at least get BoE trial gear?

ZOS: lololol no. We require you to have friends...even though the game literally requires you to sit at a screen by yourself to play...

Players: ok. Thank you sir may I have another?

Well I am in Australia play on 300 ping and at... 4 am USA time... so it is pretty impossible for me to find a group for anything. I do pleadges maybe once a month. (Although I run the nightshift in PVP).

Huyen · July 2017

We had everything being BoE, and it didnt work. Thats why the current system is in place. And no, they wont change it.

Emma_Overload · July 2017

Huyen wrote: »

We had everything being BoE, and it didnt work. Thats why the current system is in place. And no, they wont change it.

What are you talking about? BoE worked just fine (for that brief period).

MattT1988 · July 2017

I'd support the removal of BOP on normal dungeon sets like Netches and Ebon etc. However I would rather keep BOP on monster sets, Maelstrom/Master weapons and trials jewellery.

Pele · July 2017

Ya, I like the game, but the RNG is !$&!?@!#%! It's made even worse because there is zero skill involved in winning the RNG lottery. You can get it on the first drop, hundredth drop, thousandth drop, etc. That's gambling not gaming.

DRXHarbinger · July 2017

Everything should be boe now. I now sit on 15 sharp vMA infernos and 12 lit staves and 4 sharp master bows and 5 sharp master lit staves. I cannot use this many. I would actually give some of it away for free just for bank space.

Belidos · July 2017

Please add more BoP and double the RNG, we need this to stop people getting them too soon and realizing there's nothing left to do and quitting.

(i'm joking, why games insist on BoP and even BoE is beyond me, BoP is just annoying, and BoE limits the supply and inflates the market)

boobafinno · July 2017

I guess ZOS need BOP to increase their profit, cus if i need any DLC set, i have to buy DLC/Subscribe. Without BOP i wont spend real money cus i can just buy DLC set in markets for ingame gold. And thats why they'll never remove BOP.

IcyDeadPeople · July 2017

drake88131 wrote: »

I don't care that a noob can just get lots of gold and buy BiS gear. I don't care that some idiot scum is out there farming it and making real world money off of it or some idiot is buying it for real world money. I don't care that some elitists would be upset. I just want to be able to play my favorite game without spending useless hours trying to get BiS gear...again so I can enjoy more time doing other things. Like...shocker...playing my free time after work on a game I enjoy. I'm almost out of darkshade with all my divine netches but I don't feel like I earned anything. I just feel like the knucklehead that wasted dozens of hours repeating content over and over. Title says it all. Just make it happen ZOS before you lose more than one fun and entertaining YouTuber in Nebraska. Ps to stop the trolls...I have beaten vma multiple times on a stamblade and no I don't care that someone could just buy or sell my gear I worked so hard at getting. Seriously...I do not care.

Completely agree and especially would like to see a way for PVP players to gear up for PVP without having to spend months in PVE running the same dungeon over and over. And a way for everyone to try lots of different build ideas, while preserving their sanity.

Part of what makes this game fun for some of us is the process of looking at all the different sets available and coming up with interesting ideas for builds. If you want to try some BoP set, unfortunately, you have to go through a lot of boredom just to even be able to test whether the set works with your build idea.

Running the same dungeon over and over for a month to get some BoP set is not even challenging, just rather boring.

I can understand the intent of BoP for monster helms or some trial set that allows you to do more damage vs trials bosses etc. But it strikes me as odd that some of the strongest and most popular sets in this game easily are available for a few hundred gold while many others which are outright weak or not even particularly good can only be obtained by running the same dungeon over and over hundreds of times? You have to go through such an ordeal, just to try a creative build concept with some subpar set.

And many of the older dungeons are no longer popular, so it's difficult to find anybody willing to run them over and over with you. You might end up running it solo, killling the first boss, looking for chests and then trying to find someone in zone chat willing to help you reset the dungeon, enter again, repeat over and over. This is not a fun way to play this game.

At least change the group dungeon sets to BoE. Most of these are weaker than what you can already buy from guild traders

STEVIL · July 2017

drake88131 wrote: »

I don't care that a noob can just get lots of gold and buy BiS gear. I don't care that some idiot scum is out there farming it and making real world money off of it or some idiot is buying it for real world money. I don't care that some elitists would be upset. I just want to be able to play my favorite game without spending useless hours trying to get BiS gear...again so I can enjoy more time doing other things. Like...shocker...playing my free time after work on a game I enjoy. I'm almost out of darkshade with all my divine netches but I don't feel like I earned anything. I just feel like the knucklehead that wasted dozens of hours repeating content over and over. Title says it all. Just make it happen ZOS before you lose more than one fun and entertaining YouTuber in Nebraska. Ps to stop the trolls...I have beaten vma multiple times on a stamblade and no I don't care that someone could just buy or sell my gear I worked so hard at getting. Seriously...I do not care.

Why stop at bind on equip?
Why bind at all?

Let me try a set for a while then sell it.

seems to me that while either bop or no-bind makes some sorts of sense, boe in and of itself does not.

Is the game broken and brought to its knees because potions, foods, poisons and the like are able to be sold even after being "equipped" so to speak.

Feanor · July 2017

Keep preaching. It won't happen.

altemriel · July 2017

drake88131 wrote: »

I don't care that a noob can just get lots of gold and buy BiS gear. I don't care that some idiot scum is out there farming it and making real world money off of it or some idiot is buying it for real world money. I don't care that some elitists would be upset. I just want to be able to play my favorite game without spending useless hours trying to get BiS gear...again so I can enjoy more time doing other things. Like...shocker...playing my free time after work on a game I enjoy. I'm almost out of darkshade with all my divine netches but I don't feel like I earned anything. I just feel like the knucklehead that wasted dozens of hours repeating content over and over. Title says it all. Just make it happen ZOS before you lose more than one fun and entertaining YouTuber in Nebraska. Ps to stop the trolls...I have beaten vma multiple times on a stamblade and no I don't care that someone could just buy or sell my gear I worked so hard at getting. Seriously...I do not care.

yes!

CherryCake · July 2017

Lol at the people complaining that because of this nubs will just buy the armor they need and be OP.

No.

They will still be nubs.

Just because you have good armor it doesnt mean you will actually become a good player.

KeiruNicrom · July 2017

I would be okay with this if they added a small chance for dungeon gear to drop as gold BoP. Specifically jewelery but other pieces would be cool too. As long as they are garunteed BIS traits

humpalicous · July 2017

Bind on pickup has been the bane of my existence for as long as I've played this game.

I'd be more than happy farming nodes and regents, then selling to earn a lot of gold, and then buy the gear I want.

I don't want to farm a single dungeon 100+ times to get the gear and traits I want.

Maybe I'm just bitter, but farming endlessly is getting tiresome, and no I'm not farming Netch's!

IcyDeadPeople · July 2017

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Lol at the people complaining that because of this nubs will just buy the armor they need and be OP.

No.

They will still be nubs.

Just because you have good armor it doesnt mean you will actually become a good player.

How does having so many BoP sets benefit anybody? Do you really imagine Oblivion's Edge, Medusa or Lamia's Song are any better than Necropotence, Sun or Black Rose, which you can already buy cheap from guild traders?

If anything the current system punishes hardcore PVE players more than others, as you guys run those dungeons so many times trying to get sharpened weapon, end up with mostly subpar set items and can't even sell whatever stuff you do find.

Vapirko · July 2017

Well I believe the reason for it is twofold. 1) we all know it makes you play a lot 2) it makes you store all those maybe useful pieces and sets which in turn makes eso+ look very attractive and is also a gold sink for extra bank space. Does it suck? Absolutely. Should things be boe always? Idk. But there should definitely at least be some process which makes them unbound. I think this would then of course drive the price up. So say I've done 20 runs of blackhearts haven and have everything I need except for the necklace. Well then I might be like screw it, I'll spend 100k on a purple necklace someone has gone through the process of unbinding. And that way ZOS could keep players coming back for the grind, but we could also have some hope and a break. So yes i think it should be done in some way where pieces would still be rare and worth a decent amount, but at he same time a piece or two would be attainable via purchase without costing millions.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

Yes please . I have double gear sets I could be selling .

TankHealz2015 · July 2017

Not for nothing, but in my opinion Guild Wars 2 has a great dungeon/gear system.

You run dungeons and get dungeon tokens.
Each dungeon has a different type of token.
All tokens are stored in a "wallet" similar to the craft bag (so does not take up bank space.)

you save up your tokens and go to the dungeon gear vendor and buy the gear with the tokens.
each dungeon gear vendor sells their own unique style gear and you choose from a variety of traits for each piece of gear.

for me, knowing that I am always making progress towards the gear i want is great.
plus, since i know i can keep running the dungeons for more tokens, i experimented much more with the different traits and such....

with RNG, i feel like i must keep and save any gear i might want to wear in the future, ...

i'd rather save tokens even if the price is ridiculous high, than hope for an RNG. at least i know i'm making progress to my goals..

CherryCake · July 2017

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Lol at the people complaining that because of this nubs will just buy the armor they need and be OP.

No.

They will still be nubs.

Just because you have good armor it doesnt mean you will actually become a good player.

How does having so many BoP sets benefit anybody? Do you really imagine Oblivion's Edge, Medusa or Lamia's Song are any better than Necropotence, Sun or Black Rose, which you can already buy cheap from guild traders?

If anything the current system punishes hardcore PVE players more than others, as you guys run those dungeons so many times trying to get sharpened weapon, end up with mostly subpar set items and can't even sell whatever stuff you do find.

Which is why I dont agree with BoP.......... I was refering to a person that said all you need is to gather some money and buy what you want, making the game "pay to win". I am sick of running the same dungeon over and over to get a good trait. And if I dont run it with my friend, I normally cant afford to buy it from someone else in the group with me which makes me run it even more.

theher0not · July 2017

No, but they do need to reduce the amount of RNG. Maybe by having bosses drop tokens that can be used to buy any set from a dungeun, or by reworking and rebalance some traits so there are more than one or 2 good ones.

I'd prefer a token system. How it would work is whenever you kill a boss you will get a token with a trait and a slot. That token can be exchanged for any of the sets that can drop in that dungeun.

Alternativley they could make them so each token corresponds to each set and instead allowing you to pick which trait you want.

Ermiq · July 2017

What is BiS gear?

Coilbox · July 2017

Ohhh, ZOS... you are losing a fun and entertaining youtuber in Nebraska... xD

Merlin13KAGL · July 2017

Slack wrote: »

Well whenever I get a piece, I consider to potentially be decent at some point, I store it.
Got all the ebon, netch or BSW accessories this way, without having to farm. Only by pledges and random dungeons.

ESO is already way less restrictive in terms of gear making it bound to your account, compared to other games, where everything is BOP-characterbound

@Slack, same, for the most part. The problem changes from one of RNG to one of storage.

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I've deconned a sharpened inferno staff because I had no use for it.

@Smasherx74 ...please... I've deconned a sharpened inferno staff because I had no space for it!

boobafinno wrote: »

You can hire 2-3 players for gold to go with u in any dungeons and they'll drop sets what u need. But i agree with original post.

@boobafinno , hope that writ works like a hitman's contract - "until the job is done?" Because you may get 4x the odds, but it's still far from guaranteed success. And how is this really any different than being able to purchase from a guild trader, aside from the time involved?

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Lol at the people complaining that because of this nubs will just buy the armor they need and be OP.

No.

They will still be nubs.

Just because you have good armor it doesnt mean you will actually become a good player.

How does having so many BoP sets benefit anybody? Do you really imagine Oblivion's Edge, Medusa or Lamia's Song are any better than Necropotence, Sun or Black Rose, which you can already buy cheap from guild traders?

If anything the current system punishes hardcore PVE players more than others, as you guys run those dungeons so many times trying to get sharpened weapon, end up with mostly subpar set items and can't even sell whatever stuff you do find.

@EstelioVeleth , spoken like a n00b. @IcyDeadPeople has it right - it's nothing more than a timesink, both with the grind and the inventory management hell associated. It doesn't add quality of life to the game at all.

Vapirko wrote: »

Well I believe the reason for it is twofold. 1) we all know it makes forces you
to play a lot 2) it makes you store all those maybe useful pieces and sets which in turn makes eso+ look very attractive and is also a gold sink for extra bank space. Does it suck? Absolutely. Should things be boe always? Idk. But there should definitely at least be some process which makes them unbound. I think this would then of course drive the price up. So say I've done 20 runs of blackhearts haven and have everything I need except for the necklace. Well then I might be like screw it, I'll spend 100k on a purple necklace someone has gone through the process of unbinding. And that way ZOS could keep players coming back for the grind, but we could also have some hope and a break. So yes i think it should be done in some way where pieces would still be rare and worth a decent amount, but at he same time a piece or two would be attainable via purchase without costing millions.

@Vapirko how long did it take to fill 240 bank slots the first time? What makes you think it takes any less long to fill the doubled other half?

It's a poor way to get people to repeat content they may not otherwise repeat. In theory, this ups the odds of randoms getting other people in their group.
It's a poor way to lessen the load on the server. What is the percentage of time you spend mucking with inventory, bank, decon, and just tracking what set pieces you have/need?
It's lazy implementation regarding inventory. You're going to tell me 50 pieces of jewelry take up the same space as 50 cold fire trebuchets?
It's poor implementation of crafting. I am a Master Crafter. I recieve Master writ requests from all over:
- I can make you armor in the style of your choosing that can protect you from warhammers, thieves' daggers, and dragon fire. I cannot craft a basic leather satchel to hold 10 more vendor trash rings.
- I can make you a full set of deadric decor for your two story mansion. I can craft you tables, bookcases, trunks, and cabinets. I cannot manage to craft a shoddy wooden crate to hold a pair of pants, two potions, and a clanfear's dewclaw.
- I can refine materials of all shapes and sizes. Nay, I can make diamonds appear from scraps of maple and rawhide, I cannot retrieve 10% of the usable materials form an item I made by hand, even if it is my intention to remake the exact same item.

Everything does not need to not be bound. Undaunted gear (Monster sets), vMA, DSA, assorted others can remain. Most of the useful "4 man" sets offer little benefit by being this way though, let alone the ones no one ever wears.

If concern is selling on the open market, fine. At least make these items tradeable within your guilds. No market crash, people could actually obtain the remaining necessary pieces with much improved ease.

If not this, then a trait transmog system (not just style, as is incoming). I'm certain people would happily be willing to morph 10 unneeded pieces into one they can actually use, or 25 'blues' into a single 'purple.'.

I would even argue that server load would decrease because there would be less time managing the game and more time actually playing the game. It's asinine that 80% of the time, any request for help begins with determining what gear to shuffle where or what pieces to decon to make space for the impending stream of other stuff that results from runs.

Ridding otherwise good gear to make space, especially with the frequency of set changes in this game is also not a viable solution. And this is only made worse the more characters you have to outfit. Time should be worth something.

Universe · July 2017

Banana wrote: »

Praise the lord

Thank you

On topic, as much as I hate the RNG system in ESO, making everything BOE will be wrong.
If everything will BOE, the game will be like easy mode, no grinding, not achieving anything.
I have a lot...of gold, if I could buy anything and everything, what is the point ?
I want to be rewarded in the process, not to just buy items and skip content.

In my opinion, ZOS needs to introduce Dungeon Tokens system, each dungeon completion awards you tokens:
Normal: 1 token
Veteran: 2 tokens
Veteran hard mode: 3 tokens
After earning enough tokens, you will be able to buy the specific item you want.
For example, completing CoH normal 100 times will award you 100 tokens, then you will be able to buy the Restoration staff of the Lich - Defending trait from a vendor.
I completed CoH like 300++ times and never got Restoration staff of the Lich - Defending trait(only infused and charged), so I know how you feel.