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Im the first to say nerf warden ult !!
Ihatenightblades
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I got 2 words for you @ZoS
Healing thicket...
Cost 75 ultimate
Instantly swell a healing forest around you or and ally in the area, restoring 7273 health. ( heres where the OP kicks in ) the forest continues to heal you and all allies in the area for 3636 every 1 sec for 6 seconds. ( this is where it gets ridiculous ) when effect ends allies including yourself continue to receive 18180 healing over 4 seconds..........
Umm has anyone noticed this is a broken and game breaking ability? With werewolf hide blood spawn and heroic slash and tavas favor is just infinite heals?? And thats just one person imagine a couple of those things running around..
You got this @ZoS dont let them ruin cyrodil I suggest if you want it to remain very strong but not broke i would make it cost 200-250 atleast. Or do something about that 18k over 4 seconds? Thats just not needed.
Edited by Ihatenightblades on July 5, 2017 7:48AM Healing thicket...
Cost 75 ultimate
Instantly swell a healing forest around you or and ally in the area, restoring 7273 health. ( heres where the OP kicks in ) the forest continues to heal you and all allies in the area for 3636 every 1 sec for 6 seconds. ( this is where it gets ridiculous ) when effect ends allies including yourself continue to receive 18180 healing over 4 seconds..........
Umm has anyone noticed this is a broken and game breaking ability? With werewolf hide blood spawn and heroic slash and tavas favor is just infinite heals?? And thats just one person imagine a couple of those things running around..
You got this @ZoS dont let them ruin cyrodil I suggest if you want it to remain very strong but not broke i would make it cost 200-250 atleast. Or do something about that 18k over 4 seconds? Thats just not needed.
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭18k over 4s = 4.5k/s
In pvp this is a 2500 heal a second which is around a vigor?PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »18k over 4s = 4.5k/s
In pvp this is a 2500 heal a second which is around a vigor?
It stacks.. plus add all the ticks .0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »18k over 4s = 4.5k/s
In pvp this is a 2500 heal a second which is around a vigor?
It stacks.. plus add all the ticks .
You can do an exact same ult gen build using a templar with a bigger radius and a bigger heals per second.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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humpalicous✭✭✭Please, stop with the nerf calls, just tired of everything being nerfed all of the time. The Warden is underachieving as is, why destroy the class even more?
I spammed Healing Thicket over and over again in PVP the other day and people still died.20 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Was expecting a bear nerf tbh. Disappointed. Bear is OP on huge Stam pool players.Edited by DRXHarbinger on July 5, 2017 8:23AMPC Master Race
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✭Nothing is wrong with the ultimate, its a good healing skill, and its great that is has such a low ultimate, especially for healer/buff builds. However as @humpalicous stated, you can hit that attack over and over, but people in pvp will still die. It gives a nice boost, but it sure won't keep you alive from burning oil
! However if you team up with a Templar healer, and a Warden healer....that might...be more challenging!!
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AD - Pet Sorcerer - Damage Dealer - 160
DC - Warden - Werewolf - in - progress - 160
DC - Templar - Tank - 160
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✭✭Wardens have an AoE defile they could counter healing ultimates with. Also consider duroks bane or fasallas.
I prefer healing ulty over EoTS anyway.
Should probably cost 150 considering Soul Siphon nightblade healing uly is not even close to as strong.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on July 5, 2017 8:54AMPS4 NA DC1 -
And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparisonEdited by Navoric_Envaldreth on July 5, 2017 9:01AMFeralclaw - EU - AD
Khajit Warden - Werewolf Warden
Also own:
lvl 50 Templar PvP Healer (Dunmer)
2 lvl 50 Magicka Staff / Stamina / Healer Nightblade's (Khajit/Dunmer)
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Heal ulti is too strong..And I play with Yuke every day. Toooo strongEdited by Iyas on July 5, 2017 9:02AM0 -
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Heal ulti is too strong..And I play with Yuke every day. Toooo strong
Look at the skills/gear/brain difference..... That does not represent fair fights at all. Literally the worst and brainless enemies most of the videoFeralclaw - EU - AD
Khajit Warden - Werewolf Warden
Also own:
lvl 50 Templar PvP Healer (Dunmer)
2 lvl 50 Magicka Staff / Stamina / Healer Nightblade's (Khajit/Dunmer)
lvl 50 Magicka Sorcerer (Dunmer)9 -
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✭Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me1 -
Meld777✭✭✭✭✭I came here hoping people were (finally) asking for a Northern Storm ulti nerf. Was disappointed.
/exitEdited by Meld777 on July 5, 2017 9:42AMMaelstrom Arena Champion | Undaunted | Fighters Guild Victor
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✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me
Is it though? Its radius is smaller and it heals a lot less per second.
Templar healing ult is also OP if you build for it. Smarts heals that heal for a lot more in a much bigger radius.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Ihatenightblades wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me
Subjective I guess.. If it wasn't for the amazing Tarzan grappling hook I would probably still pvp heal with my templarFeralclaw - EU - AD
Khajit Warden - Werewolf Warden
Also own:
lvl 50 Templar PvP Healer (Dunmer)
2 lvl 50 Magicka Staff / Stamina / Healer Nightblade's (Khajit/Dunmer)
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✭✭✭✭✭Timeraider wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me
Subjective I guess.. If it wasn't for the amazing Tarzan grappling hook I would probably still pvp heal with my templar
I automatically roll dodge when someone does that to me, think someones trying to pull me with chains.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me
Is it though? Its radius is smaller and it heals a lot less per second.
Templar healing ult is also OP if you build for it. Smarts heals that heal for a lot more in a much bigger radius.
My man if you add the ticks it totals to 48k... 48k heal every 75 ult... no it doesnt compare at all its OP3 -
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Thishumpalicous wrote: »Please, stop with the nerf calls, just tired of everything being nerfed all of the time. The Warden is underachieving as is, why destroy the class even more?
I spammed Healing Thicket over and over again in PVP the other day and people still died.
Two issues, first is that the trend will be to nerf any ability who might perform better in some cases we will end up with overland PvE being hard
The second is that to request nefs from ZoS is as dangerous as:
Requesting close in air support from the death star.
You might get more than you ask for and end up making overland content hard
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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✭I mastered a warden tank / healer and i use only bloodspawn with the major heroism shield . All i can say is that the Healing ulti is overperfoming in Battlegrounds . The cost must be increased to 100-110 .2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »And how about people that don't use ultimate regenerate gear. If you calculate it, it's not even that strong so I would say... Sure... Increase ulticost to 150. However the base skill then needs double the healing and the morph at least an 25-50% increase
And yes, I have played Templar healer for the longest time (still have him) so I do have comparison
Dude healing thicket is better than any heal templars ever had.. period. Best heal ability overall by far and op if u ask me
Is it though? Its radius is smaller and it heals a lot less per second.
Templar healing ult is also OP if you build for it. Smarts heals that heal for a lot more in a much bigger radius.
My man if you add the ticks it totals to 48k... 48k heal every 75 ult... no it doesnt compare at all its OP
Its a heal over time?
By that logic all dots need nerfing as they do X thousand damage over x seconds...PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭humpalicous wrote: »Please, stop with the nerf calls, just tired of everything being nerfed all of the time.
This..! Why I have been disliking this game more and more after each nerf. Those who call out for skills/class to be nerfed need to be nerfed as well. Now where are those peeps who keep calling out others as "millennial cry-babies"?1 -
deadvolt✭✭So let me get this straight you want to nerf the only skill that in reality makes the warden worth bringing into raids for over templars that ulti is other saving grave we can pop warhorn and have that ready with in a few seconds for those oh *** moments, sure nerf it why not make the warden more useless for pve because of pvp idiots who can't seem to container one skill with all the option to do so in this game gğ2
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✭✭✭✭✭Perfect example of someone who wants to nerf other classes purely for the sake that they don't play those classes.11 -
humpalicous✭✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »You have complained about an entire class since you started the game.
Why should we take you seriously?...
I know, all he does is complain about the Warden, which is why I hope ZOS doesn't take his opinions and nerf complaints seriously.
Just so sick and tired of everything getting nerfed eventually in this game. Someone comes up with a good build that becomes very powerful?
Let's nerf that and say that it wasn't "working as intended".
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✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »I got 2 words for you @ZoS
Healing thicket...
Cost 75 ultimate
Instantly swell a healing forest around you or and ally in the area, restoring 7273 health. ( heres where the OP kicks in ) the forest continues to heal you and all allies in the area for 3636 every 1 sec for 6 seconds. ( this is where it gets ridiculous ) when effect ends allies including yourself continue to receive 18180 healing over 4 seconds..........
Umm has anyone noticed this is a broken and game breaking ability? With werewolf hide blood spawn and heroic slash and tavas favor is just infinite heals?? And thats just one person imagine a couple of those things running around..
You got this @ZoS dont let them ruin cyrodil I suggest if you want it to remain very strong but not broke i would make it cost 200-250 atleast. Or do something about that 18k over 4 seconds? Thats just not needed.DRXHarbinger wrote: »Was expecting a bear nerf tbh. Disappointed. Bear is OP on huge Stam pool players.I came here hoping people were (finally) asking for a Northern Storm ulti nerf. Was disappointed.
/exit
So on the same page of the same thread, we have mention of all three Warden Ults needing to be nerfed
Would be unfortunate if you ever lost to someone in PvP, right? You could never die fairly. Gotta nerf em for the sake of "balance"....5
