Serves that CP320 guy right.

josiahva wrote: »

I have a toon that I occasionally queue as all 3 roles. The exception being, that I can fill whatever role I need to fill with him(though to heal I actually need to swap backbar weapon and skills). I call it my farming tank...I use it for farming gear in anything less that vet DLC dungeons. That being said, I dont leave mobs alive behind me...I dont taunt much except dangerous things...I use dmg output to hold aggro without needing to...of course I will taunt something if it aggros on someone else, but mob clearing for the most part doesnt require very many taunts if the tank puts out enough dmg to aggro mobs that way. There is no problem with queing as multiple roles if and ONLY if you can fill any of the roles you queue for.

Yeah I know. I'm CP630 when I'm not leveling alts and I have a couple of characters (a templar and a sorc) who can do the same with enough spare gear and skills to do it.

But I never just go off on my own in a normal dungeon with a mix of players of different levels without saying a word - trying to impose a speed run on them. That's just being selfish and anti-social.

That's pretty lousy.

I actually queue with PuGs for some normal dungeons and tick all 3 boxes when I'm on my Templar. Just farmed CoH 1&2 over the week-end for a Lich resto staff to go on my sorc for PvP. I saw that about 70% of the times I'm assigned as tank, and the rest of the time as healer; almost never as DD. But I end up doing all 3: I slot a HoT, pull 50-70% of the group DPS and enemies stick to me because Templar rotation is mostly DoTs and channels and those work well to hold aggro even without a specialised skill. I don't skip adds but do run trough several rooms to pull trash in one and eye of the storm all of them for efficient DPS and complete ult refund.

Bryong9ub17_ESO wrote: »

So you are bragging about being an ***? Maybe had no idea that you would mind a speed run. So you just kick him without saying anything. I'm sorry, but maybe next time simply just ask him to take it easy.

In fact I think I'm going to start kicking everyone who joins a Vet dungeon who is under cp160 without saying anything for now on. Why not. smh

Speed run in normal PUGs you get through the groupfinder with a mix of low level players? You must be real gud.

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

...I dont really see what's beautifull here.

Yeah, dude was a ***. That's fine. If you had tried to talk to him and he told you to go screw yourself then I'd just...be the same reaction as I am now, really seems like your overly proud of having kicked a dude you disapproved of.

It's not pride. It's just a rare thing for lower level players to have the... intestinal fortitude... to actually kick the high level guy who could "carry them" through the normal dungeon single handed. Just because you can solo it doesn't mean the other 3 people want you to do it.

Besides you're missing the point: it's up to the one guy who wants to turn it into a speed run to ask the rest of the group if they also want that.

Group finder PUGs are not for speed runs. That's something you put together manually with some others who also want to do it. I know because I do it often with guild mates farming Viper and what not.

Iselin wrote: »

I'm leveling a new alt - a stamsorc so I just queued for a random at level 29 and got Darkshade 1 with a CP320, a CP 80 healer and another DPS level 25.

The CP320 guy, who I later noticed has queued as all 3 roles, without saying a word and before anyone else was even ready just took off through several rooms worth of trash, not even bothering to taunt and proceeded to solo the first boss. The rest of us, of course, had to deal with all the garbage he left behind especially since the other DPS couldn't run through them without almost dying.

So I started a kick vote on superman and it passed... loved it! Nothing like some silent behavior modification first thing in the morning

Oh, yeah, we 3-manned the rest of it just fine.

I always queue 3 roles for normal random, and always skip adds and run to the boss, and of course, always kick the lowest guy at the beginning to prevent the noob like u kicking me first. LOL

@Iselin

I so hate also those selfish I-Can-Do-Everything-Handymans.... specialy when most dungeons i can solo them on most of my toons, but when i pug it's because i wanna do group stuff, not trying to impress anyone with my soling ability, i do it alone when i want this. When i pug with friends and we get on of those, we don't kick him, we simply tell ourselves on Discord, bah *** it, and one by one we leave group

I absolutely hate players who act like this (the person you kicked, not you). It's incredibly rude, and if someone is going to take off like that without saying anything, the rest of the group certainly don't owe them a word before kicking.

Shockingly, many people actually enjoy playing the game. Denying three other people that option just because you're so impressed with your own *** merits a good kick in the rear.

When i tank and i am comfortable with the dungeon i always ask the group in advance if they are okay with some crazy speed runs just so they can let me know how comfortable they feel about it.

My reaction to reading this was "way to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator".

I've had dungeon runs like this. Where one player obviously knows all the ins and outs and did this dungeon so many times they could do it blindfolded, holding the controller with their feet, and still perform better than an average ESO player. You know what we did in such cases? Did our best to keep up and after the final boss said "thanks for the carry!"

I understand some people enjoy playing the game at a glacial pace. Had a few runs like that also. Where a guy would drop the blood altar before each fight, stealth up to target on each pull, etc. It's fine, but it needlessly turned a 10 min run into 25 min one. For absolutely no reason, if you are in results-oriented frame of mind.

I also don't know why some folks seem to think that just doing the dungeon we all signed up for, quickly and efficiently, is somehow rude. If anything, the player afforded you all a ton of respect by assuming you know what you're doing and can at least keep up, never mind actually pull your own weight instead of being a dead weight he'd have to carry. How was he to know that the 3 of you guys can't even deal with trash, or that you wouldn't appreciate being afforded a chance to get the fat loot even though you maybe wouldn't have the chops to beat the bosses? I base that on you guys struggling with trash. Because quite a few PUGs can't hack the harder dungeons even on normal.

In the end, I feel the guy was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. He doesn't rush, and a 10 min run turns into 30 min run, he's better off just leaving there and then and re-queuing on that char 15 mins later. He'd still save 5 mins. And if he rushes and you kick him? He'd still save time comparing to sticking around, even eating a full 15 min timer. Though I don't feel particularly sorry for him either, a player like that probably immediately hopped on another alt, got an instant queue popup because he queued as tank/healer, and probably finished that dungeon run before you guys even dawned the second boss. So I'm not sure who was the loser and who was the winner in this exchange.

Also, you guys possibly missed a huge learning opportunity. Guides and videos are fine, but even after 6 months of steady play I still on occasion learn better places to tank certain bosses, better ways to deal with certain mechanics, etc.

If you want to take it slow and do the quest or whatever there's this handy thing called text chat you can use to let other people know before you kick them for no reason. Or you can just make assumptions based on angry forums posts and prior experiences that all players are malicious in their intent to ruin other player's gameplay, that's cool too I guess.

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

If you want to take it slow and do the quest or whatever there's this handy thing called text chat you can use to let other people know before you kick them for no reason. Or you can just make assumptions based on angry forums posts and prior experiences that all players are malicious in their intent to ruin other player's gameplay, that's cool too I guess.

Text chat works both ways. The default reason to run the normal difficulty dungeons is for the skill point quest. Whenever you run them you should assume, absent any chat, that this is what the others are there to do.

If you want to do something different there, it's you who needs to bring it up not the other way around.