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Why don't all motifs go to Crown Shop, just *most*?
Avidspark
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There's a missing motif in the shop...and I'm not talking about the most recent ones, but one introduced loooong ago...
...all the other motifs released in that update have hit the shop, but one remains conspicuously absent...for over a year now...
...why?
...all the other motifs released in that update have hit the shop, but one remains conspicuously absent...for over a year now...
...why?
'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Curragraigue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skillsPUG Life - the true test of your skill
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bah, PvP ppl have just as much access to PvE as the rest of us for gold farming. That aint no excuse!4 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Bah, PvP ppl have just as much access to PvE as the rest of us for gold farming. That aint no excuse!
Quite agreed.'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Curragraigue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Bah, PvP ppl have just as much access to PvE as the rest of us for gold farming. That aint no excuse!
People that PvE have as much access to PvP to farm for AP to get motifs as well so what was your point? You don't want to PvP, you don't want to let players who PvP have an income stream or you haven't PvP'd so you don't know that doing an hour of PvE will make you more gold than doing an hour of PvP?Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
You asked for the reason that is the reason that the devs gave a long time ago.PUG Life - the true test of your skill
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
You asked for the reason that is the reason that the devs gave a long time ago.
...and that is an inadequate reason. One in the shop, all in the shop.
Or none, but that ship sailed long ago...
'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Balibe✭✭✭✭One in the shop, all in the shop
ZOS never stated is was this way that I have been able to find, if this is the way show us in writing. If not stop wasting everyone's time .....
This is a new thread on his continuation of whining from another thread because it was no longer updating in the section when posted to and now it is locked ..... All he did was replace the word "AKAVIRI" with "ONE" .....
Why do the people on the forums need to go into this conversation again when it has already been discussed in depth? ZOS never made a comment for a reason and it was their choice. There are so many threads ZOS does not answer too, hwy are you continually demanding a response in yours? By now you could of put the effort into the game and achieved this motif, saving the forums this headache again ......
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/326136/still-no-response-from-devs-on-akaviri-motif-to-crown-shop
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LordNilloc✭✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
You asked for the reason that is the reason that the devs gave a long time ago.
...and that is an inadequate reason. One in the shop, all in the shop.
Or none, but that ship sailed long ago...
What makes that an inadequate reason?
Just the fact that you don't agree with it?4 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭LordNilloc wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
You asked for the reason that is the reason that the devs gave a long time ago.
...and that is an inadequate reason. One in the shop, all in the shop.
Or none, but that ship sailed long ago...
What makes that an inadequate reason?
Just the fact that you don't agree with it?
No hun, it is inadequate because it doesn't align logically with every single OTHER motif going into the shop.
One in, all in...or none in altogether.'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭Have to wonder if the Militant Ordinator motif will follow suit...any comment @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭With the MidYear Mayhem event, less excuses than ever to keep some (read as PVP) motifs from the crown store...'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Well, there is the practical consideration that the Akaviri armor doesn't really look that great, in comparison to more recent additions. Like the original Ashlander motif, and Draugr, it's been in the game since launch, and sticking it front and center, asking people to pay for it, isn't going to end well. Mostly because it is, visually, on par with the base 14 motifs.0 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Well, there is the practical consideration that the Akaviri armor doesn't really look that great, in comparison to more recent additions. Like the original Ashlander motif, and Draugr, it's been in the game since launch, and sticking it front and center, asking people to pay for it, isn't going to end well. Mostly because it is, visually, on par with the base 14 motifs.
Yet...those others got that Crown Store treatment, one and all...
...so yah, I'm afraid that can't really be a consideration.'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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ArcVelarian✭✭✭✭✭I'll only pay money for the Tsaesci motif.Murphy's Law of PvP : If it can be abused and or exploited, it will be abused and or exploited.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?3 -
Curragraigue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol you are still going with this? I'll give you the same answer I give my three year old when he keeps repeating the same question after receiving the answer already.
Because the devs say so.PUG Life - the true test of your skill
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✭✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Well, there is the practical consideration that the Akaviri armor doesn't really look that great, in comparison to more recent additions. Like the original Ashlander motif, and Draugr, it's been in the game since launch, and sticking it front and center, asking people to pay for it, isn't going to end well. Mostly because it is, visually, on par with the base 14 motifs.
Yet...those others got that Crown Store treatment, one and all...
...so yah, I'm afraid that can't really be a consideration.
That's, not, actually true though. If it is the consideration, then it applies exclusively to the Akaviri motif, and not the other contemporary ones. It may also be why we've never gotten Worm Cult or Lich as craftible motifs.
The truth is, we don't know. And ZOS is never going to step forward and say, yeah, that motif sucks. So, it sits hidden behind the PVP grind, where most people will never see it.0 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
Because every other craftable style did. It's only obvious...sorry you're unable to muster the cognitive aptitude to see it..'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »
Well, there is the practical consideration that the Akaviri armor doesn't really look that great, in comparison to more recent additions. Like the original Ashlander motif, and Draugr, it's been in the game since launch, and sticking it front and center, asking people to pay for it, isn't going to end well. Mostly because it is, visually, on par with the base 14 motifs.
Yet...those others got that Crown Store treatment, one and all...
...so yah, I'm afraid that can't really be a consideration.
That's, not, actually true though. If it is the consideration, then it applies exclusively to the Akaviri motif, and not the other contemporary ones. It may also be why we've never gotten Worm Cult or Lich as craftible motifs.
The truth is, we don't know. And ZOS is never going to step forward and say, yeah, that motif sucks. So, it sits hidden behind the PVP grind, where most people will never see it.
Yes, actually it is true. Every other craftable style has been placed into the crown shop after a few months ingame. Every. Single. One.
Save the one pvp gained style...why should it remain the snowflake?
I say it should not. It needs to be treated equally with all the other craftable styles, and placed into the crown shop after far too long being overlooked.Edited by Avidspark on July 28, 2017 10:52PM'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
Because every other craftable style did. It's only obvious...sorry you're unable to muster the cognitive aptitude to see it..
Very false. Many have been put in, but not all.
But REALLY, that is besides the point. Some go for cash,some dont. Just because one goes in doesnt mean they all should. Should there be nothing you have to earn?2 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
Because every other craftable style did. It's only obvious...sorry you're unable to muster the cognitive aptitude to see it..
Very false. Many have been put in, but not all.
But REALLY, that is besides the point. Some go for cash,some dont. Just because one goes in doesnt mean they all should. Should there be nothing you have to earn?
Really? Name the ones that have not been placed into the crown shop, besides the newest ones that simply haven't been put there yet.
I'll wait...Edited by Avidspark on August 2, 2017 5:32AM'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
Because every other craftable style did. It's only obvious...sorry you're unable to muster the cognitive aptitude to see it..
Very false. Many have been put in, but not all.
But REALLY, that is besides the point. Some go for cash,some dont. Just because one goes in doesnt mean they all should. Should there be nothing you have to earn?
Really? Name the ones that have not been placed into the crown shop, besides the newest ones that simply haven't been put there yet.
I'll wait...
At a minimum, the ones that got removed and new ones. I presume your point is that all should àlways be in he crown store, no? Or maybe that one you said is missing is not in the crown store? Who knows really. Im just on break before I go back to busting my ass for work lol. Im not the one bothered that Iwant by everything for cash and have to earn stuffEdited by notimetocare on August 2, 2017 1:46PM1 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »Because people that PvP need to make money and people that PvE need to have a reason to keep PvP'ing after getting the skills
Irrelevant really. If ONE motif hits the crown shop..all should.
Or conversely, none should.
Says who? You? Why is that how it should be?
Because every other craftable style did. It's only obvious...sorry you're unable to muster the cognitive aptitude to see it..
Very false. Many have been put in, but not all.
But REALLY, that is besides the point. Some go for cash,some dont. Just because one goes in doesnt mean they all should. Should there be nothing you have to earn?
Really? Name the ones that have not been placed into the crown shop, besides the newest ones that simply haven't been put there yet.
I'll wait...
At a minimum, the ones that got removed and new ones. I presume your point is that all should àlways be in he crown store, no? Or maybe that one you said is missing is not in the crown store? Who knows really. Im just on break before I go back to busting my ass for work lol. Im not the one bothered that Iwant by everything for cash and have to earn stuff
See, the ones that got removed had still been PUT THERE. Akaviri hasn't, EVER, unlike EVERY OTHER MOTIF.
Don't presume anything, actually read what the topic is, k?'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭Eh, just go earn Akaviri. Super easy. Why should you be able to buy everything for cash?0 -
Avidspark✭✭✭✭Read above, already have it hun.
Not the issue, but y'know, I guess you're just not comprehending what the issue is, and never will...'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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✭You just simply repeat the same argument to everyone who disagrees with you lmao
They don't have to put everything in the store because it suits you, love.
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Avidspark✭✭✭✭You just simply repeat the same argument to everyone who disagrees with you lmao
They don't have to put everything in the store because it suits you, love.
No dear, it would only be LOGICAL to put them ALL in there if all the REST ARE.
Sorry you're so blithely incapable of the reason necessary to comprehend that.'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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