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Warden feels like it needs something of a Buff...
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Adernath✭✭✭✭✭wardens are useless anyway , pve pvp they die like flies, with dps lower then tank dps no real support , just fine for map exploring until some harder rat will ambush warden
Are you joking? I can solo even group+ content with my warden (and I am not talking about public group delves). Wardens have incredible utility and also in PvP are really strong.3 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭wardens are useless anyway , pve pvp they die like flies, with dps lower then tank dps no real support , just fine for map exploring until some harder rat will ambush warden
Are you joking? I can solo even group+ content with my warden (and I am not talking about public group delves). Wardens have incredible utility and also in PvP are really strong.
Every class can solo everything, and they have an even easier time than the warden since they can burst down bosses more quickly.2 -
ezeepeezee✭✭✭✭ComboBreaker88 wrote: »Wardens are op. I ran I to a stam healer warden and we did vet cradle on hard mode with a picj up group. Needs a buff. Lmao. It needs a serious nerf.
wut?
I am currently running a Khajiit Stamina Warden Healer. It's very strong. My soothing spores crit for like 12k, and every tick of my Echoing Vigor is 1-1.2k. Crit is 61-63% unbuffed. I don't know what's considered top of the line, but when I heal in dungeons people are hardly taking damage.
My setup is,
TBS w/ Thief + Ritual
Alkosh (not really any stam healing sets out there)
DW/Bow, 1 powered, 1 precise 1h's, powered bow. Enchants are weapon damage, crusher, and weakening.
Troll King.
Without any CP factored in, the powered + TK + ritual is 23-26% bonus to heals.
Trust me, it's strong. It might not be end-game vet HM trial strong, but.. it's fun!Edited by ezeepeezee on June 17, 2017 7:55AM3 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ezeepeezee wrote: »ComboBreaker88 wrote: »Wardens are op. I ran I to a stam healer warden and we did vet cradle on hard mode with a picj up group. Needs a buff. Lmao. It needs a serious nerf.
wut?
I am currently running a Khajiit Stamina Warden Healer. It's very strong. My soothing spores crit for like 12k, and every tick of my Echoing Vigor is 1-1.2k. Crit is 61-63% unbuffed. I don't know what's considered top of the line, but when I heal in dungeons people are hardly taking damage.
My setup is,
TBS w/ Thief + Ritual
Alkosh (not really any stam healing sets out there)
DW/Bow, 1 powered, 1 precise 1h's, powered bow. Enchants are weapon damage, crusher, and weakening.
Troll King.
Without any CP factored in, the powered + TK + ritual is 23-26% bonus to heals.
Trust me, it's strong. It might not be end-game vet HM trial strong, but.. it's fun!
It's not meta so it's not good! That's the credo of the ESO forum.
Great that you are using a somehow interesting and fresh build instead of following the meta.Edited by Seraphayel on June 17, 2017 7:57AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -5 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Arctic Wind is not bad at all. It heals for 20% of your total health. That's pretty good.
Arctic Wind heals for 10% of your Health.
Edited by ArchMikem on June 17, 2017 8:11AMCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Torbschka✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Arctic Wind is not bad at all. It heals for 20% of your total health. That's pretty good.
Arctic Wind heals for 10% of your Health.
Abd in pvp its 5%, actually im not entirely sure which route I want to go with my warden, right now it seems like there are 2 "main" routes u can go (talking about magicka warden).
1. go the necropotence route and ur main defense are shields + lotus (mainly for the ressource gain passive) and healing ward.
I combined that with amberplasm and have great success with it, but sometimes it feels like a "gimped sorc"
2. the more like the "templar" route, ur defense is eines, lotus, shimmering and other heals. Problem is I have to war at least 1 defense set, another is needed for resources. I can build it very tanky but then I lack dmg. (Impreg, wizards riposte etc).
Right bow I prefer the necro Route, the other feels more squishy for me, although I think that this is the route the warden is meant to play.
DMG with 50k+ mag and 2k spelldmg is OK, although I feel like it scales better with SD as with magicka.
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xb1LL_mr_sir_LL✭✭✭this guy is a super casual player + he's an attention seeker so take everything he says with a massive grain of salt.
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭wardens are useless anyway , pve pvp they die like flies, with dps lower then tank dps no real support , just fine for map exploring until some harder rat will ambush warden
you'v played vs bad wardens then, my alt is currently in his 30's and he can outheal a ton of whats thrown at him.
though i admid nowhere near as good as a DK self healing or templar but they dont drop like fliesPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Arctic Wind is not bad at all. It heals for 20% of your total health. That's pretty good.
Arctic Wind heals for 10% of your Health.
No, Arctic Wind heals for 20% of your health. 10% on the initial cast and 10% during the 10 seconds HoT.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -3 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭All I know is that as far as PVP goes I can kill Wardens fairly easily and rarely die to one. And I'm not a particularly good player.
I appreciate their buffs and heals tho
Edited by Rowjoh on June 17, 2017 9:59AM1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xb1LL_mr_sir_LL wrote: »this guy is a super casual player + he's an attention seeker so take everything he says with a massive grain of salt.
Excuse me? Would you mind explaining your accusations or are you just someone I need to ignore.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ezeepeezee wrote: »ComboBreaker88 wrote: »Wardens are op. I ran I to a stam healer warden and we did vet cradle on hard mode with a picj up group. Needs a buff. Lmao. It needs a serious nerf.
wut?
I am currently running a Khajiit Stamina Warden Healer. It's very strong. My soothing spores crit for like 12k, and every tick of my Echoing Vigor is 1-1.2k. Crit is 61-63% unbuffed. I don't know what's considered top of the line, but when I heal in dungeons people are hardly taking damage.
My setup is,
TBS w/ Thief + Ritual
Alkosh (not really any stam healing sets out there)
DW/Bow, 1 powered, 1 precise 1h's, powered bow. Enchants are weapon damage, crusher, and weakening.
Troll King.
Without any CP factored in, the powered + TK + ritual is 23-26% bonus to heals.
Trust me, it's strong. It might not be end-game vet HM trial strong, but.. it's fun!
At the bold http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Powerful_Assault comes in jewelry and weapons now too.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 17, 2017 9:24AM1 -
Adernath✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »wardens are useless anyway , pve pvp they die like flies, with dps lower then tank dps no real support , just fine for map exploring until some harder rat will ambush warden
Are you joking? I can solo even group+ content with my warden (and I am not talking about public group delves). Wardens have incredible utility and also in PvP are really strong.
Every class can solo everything, and they have an even easier time than the warden since they can burst down bosses more quickly.
I agree that every class can solo everything, but the statement I quoted before took a fairly different stance. Besides that, soloing a large HP boss is not really about burst, more about managing resources and survivability.Edited by Adernath on June 17, 2017 9:32AM1 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Warden lacks DPS. Winter's Embrace and Animal Companions are too focused on buffs and / or protection. I really want ZOS to give Wardens a proper finisher, e.g. the Screaming Cliffracer morph (would be amazing when this skill would deal frost damage). And maybe one additional frost DPS skill. Skill 1, 4 and 5 in WE are just super lackluster.Edited by Seraphayel on June 17, 2017 9:36AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
Euant✭✭✭ezeepeezee wrote: »I am currently running a Khajiit Stamina Warden Healer.
Trust me, it's strong. It might not be end-game vet HM trial strong, but.. it's fun!
Glad to see I'm part of a growing pve stam warden healer movement!Edited by Euant on June 17, 2017 9:54AM2 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭I've been running a hybrid, and have no problems with resource management or DPS. I'm wondering if that is what ZOS intends?0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I've been running a hybrid, and have no problems with resource management or DPS. I'm wondering if that is what ZOS intends?
Are you cp 160+? Are you playing overland questing? Because you can literally light attack every to death there, go do vet CoA2 HM with your hybrid and come back (note this is not even a new dungeon, just a basic DPS test)Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 17, 2017 10:56AM1 -
Huyen✭✭✭✭✭
✭You've chosen the weakest Magicka DPS class on non-Magicka race and you're wondering you're lacking damage output...
Anyway... They already announced buffing Warden in latest ESOlive.
Nice that its mentioned in ESO live, wich is nowhere to be found on twich, or the damn internet....For one like me that is actually a warden, it would be nice to see the show, or at least get a confirmation @ZOS_GinaBrunoHuyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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Dymence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Warden is doomed to fail at being a good pve dps by design. Every skill meant to deal damage has some minor or other buff which means they can't be on par with pure damage abilities from other classes.
On top of that, the skills are very expensive and prevent you from doing a spammable rotation in pve. My warden doesn't have his undaunted passives yet, but I haven't even been able to break 30k dps trying as hard as possible with a proper gear setup, while I can get that on my sorc in my sleep.2 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭If you are having trouble with your warden, Might I recommend this build to you.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/351953/experimental-warden-build-for-beginner-advanced-players
Always remember though: "Lethal Power comes with a powerful curse."If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.0 -
ezeepeezee✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ezeepeezee wrote: »ComboBreaker88 wrote: »Wardens are op. I ran I to a stam healer warden and we did vet cradle on hard mode with a picj up group. Needs a buff. Lmao. It needs a serious nerf.
wut?
I am currently running a Khajiit Stamina Warden Healer. It's very strong. My soothing spores crit for like 12k, and every tick of my Echoing Vigor is 1-1.2k. Crit is 61-63% unbuffed. I don't know what's considered top of the line, but when I heal in dungeons people are hardly taking damage.
My setup is,
TBS w/ Thief + Ritual
Alkosh (not really any stam healing sets out there)
DW/Bow, 1 powered, 1 precise 1h's, powered bow. Enchants are weapon damage, crusher, and weakening.
Troll King.
Without any CP factored in, the powered + TK + ritual is 23-26% bonus to heals.
Trust me, it's strong. It might not be end-game vet HM trial strong, but.. it's fun!
At the bold http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Powerful_Assault comes in jewelry and weapons now too.
Awesome! Thank you so much for this suggestion.0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Warden needs a few tweaks
Cliff racer needs more... either up the speed or a 30% chance to knockdown target.
Ice passive for snares scrap that give us a max resource like health or magicka or like 5% hp mp sp since warden is kinda hybridish.
Plant skills too many seem similar would like a heal similar to crit surge since all the heals except mushroom have clunky animations and the blossoms heal req seems a bit annoying for a mag class... like other classes have a rapid heal to survive gang ups sorcs has surge, nb can spam any attack and heal, templar everything heals or dps heals, dk can low health heal and ult regen everything. But on skills like lotus i just dont light and heavy enough in a fight to get use out if it and the mushroom is decent but seems low.
Also up the duartion on the netchs major buffs to like 25 secs i feel im recasting it it way too much to keep up dps its expired by the time i get my dots up.
Lotus blossom skill change the cast to slotted for the crit bonus. Would be great to not have mage light for once on a mag class.
Neat optional idea give wardens a 3% wep snd spell dmg bonus when using a two handed weapon. Since they seem to be a go to for two hander, bow, staff etc
Biggest gripe is long cast times for everything no clss skills can be cancelled leaving them wide open for butt wooping... and many many failed casts of the netch cast it then press a dps skill too soon netch summon cancels ..
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Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mag warden is fine... DPS, tank or healing too. If you go for healing, don't expect to play it like a templar spamming Breath of Life.
Only thing I'm really missing in PvP is a proper finisher...Edited by Docmandu on June 17, 2017 8:40PM1 -
Ender1310✭✭✭✭Dude sorcs are the best. They will always be. Warden will get some love and yes it's the lowest dps wise. You cannot go from a I can solo everything easy sorc to a warden. Try going from sorc to nb and you will feel the pain.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dude sorcs are the best. They will always be. Warden will get some love and yes it's the lowest dps wise. You cannot go from a I can solo everything easy sorc to a warden. Try going from sorc to nb and you will feel the pain.
Here we go, i'll bite.
Why are sorc's the best... my nb seems to melt everything in pvp, including sorc.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Dude sorcs are the best. They will always be. Warden will get some love and yes it's the lowest dps wise. You cannot go from a I can solo everything easy sorc to a warden. Try going from sorc to nb and you will feel the pain.
Here we go, i'll bite.
Why are sorc's the best... my nb seems to melt everything in pvp, including sorc.
That's just the procs talking :P1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Dude sorcs are the best. They will always be. Warden will get some love and yes it's the lowest dps wise. You cannot go from a I can solo everything easy sorc to a warden. Try going from sorc to nb and you will feel the pain.
Here we go, i'll bite.
Why are sorc's the best... my nb seems to melt everything in pvp, including sorc.
That's just the procs talking :P
Thats the current game though xD
But even without procs if its me and someone who knows what they are doing in pvp, if we sync ults the sorc is dead.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Dude sorcs are the best. They will always be. Warden will get some love and yes it's the lowest dps wise. You cannot go from a I can solo everything easy sorc to a warden. Try going from sorc to nb and you will feel the pain.
Here we go, i'll bite.
Why are sorc's the best... my nb seems to melt everything in pvp, including sorc.
That's just the procs talking :P
Thats the current game though xD
But even without procs if its me and someone who knows what they are doing in pvp, if we sync ults the sorc is dead.
That's called teamplay and has nothing to do with classes. When you coordinate an attack on a single player it should die regardless of the class.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭Northern Storm is ridiculously powerful.
30% AoE damage reduction that moves with you, still does damage, and snares or roots everything.
It's actually meant to be the Anti-Destro Ultimate.2
