But I like that :'(........

Sometimes I am not ready for the ready check.

I think we need a ready check to make sure I that I am ready for the ready check.

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There is function, as well.

Before, you'd get ripped from your currently activity with zero notice, often before...you were ready?

Irritating to be at the bank or in the final step of some daily or quest, needing 10 whole seconds to wrap it up and be pulled.

It was also to prevent partially formed groups, because you'd be added as soon as there was a slot, not when there were four viable candidates.

And, for those that would argue "Don't queue until you're 100% ready" have clearly never had to wait around for a 20, 30, 60 minute queue to get around to popping (often only to have the queue fail.)

I want to run a dungone, not wait around doing nothing for an hour to run a dungeon. That was the old method, where you simple 'queued' in chat.

This is the horrible mentality they are trying to cater to.

ADD kids who can't sit still, or want everyone else to wait on them to start the event, because they got bored and saw something shiny.

If you ready up, then once a match is found, too bad. If you went off to chase a butterfly in the mean time, it gives you a minute to situate yourself. Expecting people to wait on you beyond that is ludicrous.

There are plenty of queuing actives to do while waiting, like simply farming.

@BigES. gratz. This is one of the dumbest responses I've come across in some time.

The ready check gives you, what, 30 seconds to finishing 'chasing your butterfly?'

You've clearly never had to sit in a queue and chosen to do something useful in the meantime.

If you're that effing impatient, it's probably you that needs to check your meds.

Get over yourself.

No, I like ready check. Sometimes things get in the way while I am queing so I'll have to say no, or at least wait a few seconds before accepting so I don't risk getting TPed into it.



(but they really need to fix the bugs with it ASAP)

BigES wrote: »

A functional ready check system would be fine. The current one just doesn't have the right order. Sadly its more/less something a child would design.

Ready checks should occur BEFORE the game attempts to match groups. The purpose of a ready check to to alert the group that the group leader is about to queue for something. When the group leader queue's for Battlegrounds, or a Dungeon, or whatever, his/her group are immediately given ready check notices.

Once the group ready checks, they are locked in. THEN it starts match making. When a match is found, it doesn't go "are you SUUUUUUURE?" and ready check again. No. You already confirmed you were ready to queue. You're going into Battlegrounds. Or whatever dungeon you queued for. Etc.

Not rocket science, ZoS.

That was very smart, you do not answer or press no and finder goes to next in list, you are also bumped two slots back in queue so behind the one who enter and the next in queue.
No real need for an second verify, just port you in, group should do an check before all is ready some might want to change bar or gear, or they do that after the first wipe

And make the message more visible. its hard to see while in interfaces.
It should go on top of all.

Blizzard is the head honcho in the matter. Zo$ just follows. Blizzard turns left, Zo$ turns left. They turn right, Zo$, turns right.

zaria wrote: »

And make the message more visible. its hard to see while in interfaces.

I've been saying that for years. The whole user interface is an example how not to do it: Unresponsive, to many clicks, not enough feedback (audio and visual), inconsistent behaviour, to many animations, missing functionality (e.g. guild store) ... tons of bugs. I never needed so many addons in any game to partially circumvent all this.

Franieck wrote: »

fix it or remove it! On a note: if you queue for two roles, it actually takes longer for the group finder to put you in a group (***?)

But of course, the group finder has to do double the work... ;-)

Skjoldur wrote: »

Franieck wrote: »

fix it or remove it! On a note: if you queue for two roles, it actually takes longer for the group finder to put you in a group (***?)

But of course, the group finder has to do double the work... ;-)

Weird... before I would queue as healer and dd and would get a group in seconds! After homestead, things crapped out and now it's even worse! over 30 min if queue for both, around 15 min if i queue as healer, never actually got in as dd only

Well i hate mor ethe fact that there are still palyers in this game who dosent even have a clue wich role he chosed durring the que up, and when we all in the tanks says he is a DD and healer is a DD to while they role icon is clearly says He is a tank, and he is a healer.
Tanks cant hold agro, heal cant heal, and every mechanical failure becuse of a noob player who dont even know what role is to be a tank, or a ehal is constantly balming those who actualy know what role they have picked up to que up in teh dungeon.
And these idiods numbers are Growing so badly that even an atom bomb cant teach them about their role....
And you think reday chek is the main issues in dungeon content? XDDDD Think again please.

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There is function, as well.

Before, you'd get ripped from your currently activity with zero notice, often before...you were ready?

Irritating to be at the bank or in the final step of some daily or quest, needing 10 whole seconds to wrap it up and be pulled.

It was also to prevent partially formed groups, because you'd be added as soon as there was a slot, not when there were four viable candidates.

And, for those that would argue "Don't queue until you're 100% ready" have clearly never had to wait around for a 20, 30, 60 minute queue to get around to popping (often only to have the queue fail.)

I want to run a dungone, not wait around doing nothing for an hour to run a dungeon. That was the old method, where you simple 'queued' in chat.

This is the horrible mentality they are trying to cater to.

ADD kids who can't sit still, or want everyone else to wait on them to start the event, because they got bored and saw something shiny.

If you ready up, then once a match is found, too bad. If you went off to chase a butterfly in the mean time, it gives you a minute to situate yourself. Expecting people to wait on you beyond that is ludicrous.

There are plenty of queuing actives to do while waiting, like simply farming.

@BigES. gratz. This is one of the dumbest responses I've come across in some time.

The ready check gives you, what, 30 seconds to finishing 'chasing your butterfly?'

You've clearly never had to sit in a queue and chosen to do something useful in the meantime.

If you're that effing impatient, it's probably you that needs to check your meds.

Get over yourself.

@Merlin13KAGL

Lol okay.

Your time is clearly more valuable than everyone else's.

How long do you need. 60 seconds? 2 minutes? 5 minutes? I mean what's a realistic amount of time you need to "be ready" when you've already ready checked.

What are you doing that's so important between queues? Questing? It LITERALLY dumps you back off in the exact same spot it ported you from when you break the group and leave the dungeon.

But yeah, please continue to defend a ridiculously broken queueing system.

• Old System: Pulled you immediately w/ zero warning.
• New System: Give you about 30 seconds to accept the ready check before autodeclining. That's usually long enough to finish off what you're doing immediately and accept.
  
  Also, if you're in another instance of some kind, it's replaces you at the front door.

So, I say again, if you can't be bothered to wait 30 seconds for someone to accept the ready check, you're clearly too busy to be queuing.

It's not that my time is more valuable than anyone else's. It's that yours is not.

Please do something. Whenever I entered the dungeon finder, whether for random daily or to do a pledge last night, it instantly created a nonstop lagfest no matter what I was doing ingame every minute or so. Its absolute crap for a game that's been out 3 years and took $40 per expansion... you just made so much money now fix a blatant issue

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There is function, as well.

Before, you'd get ripped from your currently activity with zero notice, often before...you were ready?

Irritating to be at the bank or in the final step of some daily or quest, needing 10 whole seconds to wrap it up and be pulled.

It was also to prevent partially formed groups, because you'd be added as soon as there was a slot, not when there were four viable candidates.

And, for those that would argue "Don't queue until you're 100% ready" have clearly never had to wait around for a 20, 30, 60 minute queue to get around to popping (often only to have the queue fail.)

I want to run a dungone, not wait around doing nothing for an hour to run a dungeon. That was the old method, where you simple 'queued' in chat.

This is the horrible mentality they are trying to cater to.

ADD kids who can't sit still, or want everyone else to wait on them to start the event, because they got bored and saw something shiny.

If you ready up, then once a match is found, too bad. If you went off to chase a butterfly in the mean time, it gives you a minute to situate yourself. Expecting people to wait on you beyond that is ludicrous.

There are plenty of queuing actives to do while waiting, like simply farming.

@BigES. gratz. This is one of the dumbest responses I've come across in some time.

The ready check gives you, what, 30 seconds to finishing 'chasing your butterfly?'

You've clearly never had to sit in a queue and chosen to do something useful in the meantime.

If you're that effing impatient, it's probably you that needs to check your meds.

Get over yourself.

@Merlin13KAGL

Lol okay.

Your time is clearly more valuable than everyone else's.

How long do you need. 60 seconds? 2 minutes? 5 minutes? I mean what's a realistic amount of time you need to "be ready" when you've already ready checked.

What are you doing that's so important between queues? Questing? It LITERALLY dumps you back off in the exact same spot it ported you from when you break the group and leave the dungeon.

But yeah, please continue to defend a ridiculously broken queueing system.

• Old System: Pulled you immediately w/ zero warning.
• New System: Give you about 30 seconds to accept the ready check before autodeclining. That's usually long enough to finish off what you're doing immediately and accept.
  
  Also, if you're in another instance of some kind, it's replaces you at the front door.

So, I say again, if you can't be bothered to wait 30 seconds for someone to accept the ready check, you're clearly too busy to be queuing.

It's not that my time is more valuable than anyone else's. It's that yours is not.

Yeah no.

New System: If you decline the ready check, it re-queue's everyone. Again, everyone. Not you. The group it matched you with gets dequeued. Which is the problem here that you're not grasping.

Old System: If you failed to accept once a match was found, you still got a timer. But it queued you in automatically after the timer expired. Because you already agreed to queue. There was no "meh, maybe I changed my mind" indecisiveness.

There working so quick to resolve the issue let's all trust this will be fixed by 2018

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

There is function, as well.

Before, you'd get ripped from your currently activity with zero notice, often before...you were ready?

Irritating to be at the bank or in the final step of some daily or quest, needing 10 whole seconds to wrap it up and be pulled.

It was also to prevent partially formed groups, because you'd be added as soon as there was a slot, not when there were four viable candidates.

And, for those that would argue "Don't queue until you're 100% ready" have clearly never had to wait around for a 20, 30, 60 minute queue to get around to popping (often only to have the queue fail.)

I want to run a dungone, not wait around doing nothing for an hour to run a dungeon. That was the old method, where you simple 'queued' in chat.

This is the horrible mentality they are trying to cater to.

ADD kids who can't sit still, or want everyone else to wait on them to start the event, because they got bored and saw something shiny.

If you ready up, then once a match is found, too bad. If you went off to chase a butterfly in the mean time, it gives you a minute to situate yourself. Expecting people to wait on you beyond that is ludicrous.

There are plenty of queuing actives to do while waiting, like simply farming.

@BigES. gratz. This is one of the dumbest responses I've come across in some time.

The ready check gives you, what, 30 seconds to finishing 'chasing your butterfly?'

You've clearly never had to sit in a queue and chosen to do something useful in the meantime.

If you're that effing impatient, it's probably you that needs to check your meds.

Get over yourself.

@Merlin13KAGL

Lol okay.

Your time is clearly more valuable than everyone else's.

How long do you need. 60 seconds? 2 minutes? 5 minutes? I mean what's a realistic amount of time you need to "be ready" when you've already ready checked.

What are you doing that's so important between queues? Questing? It LITERALLY dumps you back off in the exact same spot it ported you from when you break the group and leave the dungeon.

But yeah, please continue to defend a ridiculously broken queueing system.

• Old System: Pulled you immediately w/ zero warning.
• New System: Give you about 30 seconds to accept the ready check before autodeclining. That's usually long enough to finish off what you're doing immediately and accept.
  
  Also, if you're in another instance of some kind, it's replaces you at the front door.

So, I say again, if you can't be bothered to wait 30 seconds for someone to accept the ready check, you're clearly too busy to be queuing.

It's not that my time is more valuable than anyone else's. It's that yours is not.

Yeah no.

New System: If you decline the ready check, it re-queue's everyone. Again, everyone. Not you. The group it matched you with gets dequeued. Which is the problem here that you're not grasping.

Old System: If you failed to accept once a match was found, you still got a timer. But it queued you in automatically after the timer expired. Because you already agreed to queue. There was no "meh, maybe I changed my mind" indecisiveness.

My apologies, @BigES

I think we're talking about two different circumstances here. I'm referring to solo, where you only get the option to 'ready up' when a potential viable group has been found.

If you decline, or it times out, the original group goes back to the front of the queue for the 4th (or more) to be found - same circumstance they were in moments before.

You, I'm pretty sure, are referring to premade, already established groups, correct?

While I can understand your frustration, group chat, voice comms, or straight up kick should be sufficient.

30 second, or so autodecline still applies here. Perhaps everyone not ready at that point should be treated (by the system) the same as above, removed from group, and a random queued in its place.

This also, obviously comes with its own caveats.