Few days post-Morrowind release.. oh my..

GreenhaloX · June 2017

Ok, a few days after post-release for console. I wanted to hold off a bit longer, but this is busting at the seam to get out from me. What an utter train wreck; particularly, for stam toons. Hardy, Elemental, Mighty, etc., down from 25% to 15%.. just to spit out a few of the many nerfing. Yet, with the new nerfed cp factoring, am lucky to get 14%. All things toons are nerfed to shriveled pickles, yet, all bosses' game have been upped. Would be interesting and more enjoyable if nothing were nerfed, with this current addition of new tactics and skills for bosses and adds. Even though my toons are maxed out, I'm still being eaten up alive by lowly adds at dolmens and world bosses, etc. Ha ha. Haaa, no more soloing world bosses. No more feeling godlike or powerful, and gone were the days of pillaging through Tamriel and destroying everything in my wake. Whatever.. still trying hard to enjoy this game. Can't even think about getting into Warden or Vvardenfell, since all other toons are going backwards. Seems really ZOS/dev are on the bad guys side and don't want us good guys/toons to win in ESO. I wonder how far I can toss this game..

However, hope you all others are enjoying Morrowind and Wardens. Cool new skills with the Wardens, but they don't seem all that tough. Battle bear is allright.. but would it be cooler to have a battle mammoth? or a mammoth mount? Hmmm

andreasranasen · June 2017

"Would be interesting and more enjoyable if nothing were nerfed"

Could not agree more!! The game was perfectly fine as it was.

QuebraRegra · June 2017

I thought it was just my crap STAMBLADE.. definitely get whomped by adds, etc.

Horowonnoe · June 2017

lol. Hope you enjoyed your longer time with the old patch/meta.
I already forgot what it was like to have good magicka sustain and group orbs.

ShedsHisTail · June 2017

Yeah, everything is always broken, until you adjust to it, then it's perfect again until the next time they break it.

It's the ciiiiircle of liiiiiife....

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2017

I have a hard time believing you felt god like at world bosses before, but now you can't solo them...

I mean I get everything was nerfed... but if you were that good before, but that bad now... did one of your op sets get nerfed or something?

tinythinker · June 2017

These changes were discussed at nauseum during the closed beta. Not being super-OP and having to choose which areas to be strong intended. ZOS is monitoring how well players are doing and will make further refinements later. Plot holes and some bad class skill changes are issues we haven't heard much about yet so I am waiting for that to get a sense of what they might do next for game mechanics.

Anyeay, no more easy-bake godmode.

Fodore · June 2017

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Ok, a few days after post-release for console. I wanted to hold off a bit longer, but this is busting at the seam to get out from me. What an utter train wreck; particularly, for stam toons. Hardy, Elemental, Mighty, etc., down from 25% to 15%.. just to spit out a few of the many nerfing. Yet, with the new nerfed cp factoring, am lucky to get 14%. All things toons are nerfed to shriveled pickles, yet, all bosses' game have been upped. Would be interesting and more enjoyable if nothing were nerfed, with this current addition of new tactics and skills for bosses and adds. Even though my toons are maxed out, I'm still being eaten up alive by lowly adds at dolmens and world bosses, etc. Ha ha. Haaa, no more soloing world bosses. No more feeling godlike or powerful, and gone were the days of pillaging through Tamriel and destroying everything in my wake. Whatever.. still trying hard to enjoy this game. Can't even think about getting into Warden or Vvardenfell, since all other toons are going backwards. Seems really ZOS/dev are on the bad guys side and don't want us good guys/toons to win in ESO. I wonder how far I can toss this game..

However, hope you all others are enjoying Morrowind and Wardens. Cool new skills with the Wardens, but they don't seem all that tough. Battle bear is allright.. but would it be cooler to have a battle mammoth? or a mammoth mount? Hmmm

Umm what. I can still solo dolmens just fine on my lv32 magplar... although it is a magicka class in a magicka meta, have not tried it on my Stam sorc yet

tinythinker · June 2017

Fodore wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Ok, a few days after post-release for console. I wanted to hold off a bit longer, but this is busting at the seam to get out from me. What an utter train wreck; particularly, for stam toons. Hardy, Elemental, Mighty, etc., down from 25% to 15%.. just to spit out a few of the many nerfing. Yet, with the new nerfed cp factoring, am lucky to get 14%. All things toons are nerfed to shriveled pickles, yet, all bosses' game have been upped. Would be interesting and more enjoyable if nothing were nerfed, with this current addition of new tactics and skills for bosses and adds. Even though my toons are maxed out, I'm still being eaten up alive by lowly adds at dolmens and world bosses, etc. Ha ha. Haaa, no more soloing world bosses. No more feeling godlike or powerful, and gone were the days of pillaging through Tamriel and destroying everything in my wake. Whatever.. still trying hard to enjoy this game. Can't even think about getting into Warden or Vvardenfell, since all other toons are going backwards. Seems really ZOS/dev are on the bad guys side and don't want us good guys/toons to win in ESO. I wonder how far I can toss this game..

However, hope you all others are enjoying Morrowind and Wardens. Cool new skills with the Wardens, but they don't seem all that tough. Battle bear is allright.. but would it be cooler to have a battle mammoth? or a mammoth mount? Hmmm

Umm what. I can still solo dolmens just fine on my lv32 magplar... although it is a magicka class in a magicka meta, have not tried it on my Stam sorc yet

Will try one on one of my stam characters but on my Magward I've been soloing them in Kyne from the late 20s to late 30s character level.

Bonzodog01 · June 2017

Personally, I like that they've made it so that even overland is not so much a faceroll god-mode kinda thing any more.

Now, you have to watch those resources. Think about rotations. Watch out for those boss mechanics. Standing in red WILL kill you and you need to be far more careful about the fights you pick.

Sure normal mob groups still melt around you, but any boss fights, even minor ones, its still going to take a little longer to kill them, and you need to actively watch what you are doing.

ShedsHisTail · June 2017

True Elder Scrolls fans welcome this change...

We've been out of Stamina/Magicka since 1996.

Sigma957 · June 2017

Solo'ed a world boss on my stam sorc in Vvardenfell the other day so it is not all doom and I am just an average player

was an intense fight with adds+boss

idk · June 2017

Always enjoy hasty reviews with inaccurate information.

"All the bosses game have been upped" yet somehow groups are still clearing vMoL and other trials. I have not noticed any changes with previously existing bosses other than my dps is slightly lower.

Maybe OP should spend a bit more time before offering his hasty review.

Cêltic421 · June 2017

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

True Elder Scrolls fans welcome this change...

We've been out of Stamina/Magicka since 1996.

Which ES game is this? Is it one?

Cêltic421 · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Always enjoy hasty reviews with inaccurate information.

"All the bosses game have been upped" yet somehow groups are still clearing vMoL and other trials. I have not noticed any changes with previously existing bosses other than my dps is slightly lower.

Maybe OP should spend a bit more time before offering his hasty review.

Things may be harder because of lower dps and sustain. Nothing changed with bosses and other encounters

Smmokkee · June 2017

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Ok, a few days after post-release for console. I wanted to hold off a bit longer, but this is busting at the seam to get out from me. What an utter train wreck; particularly, for stam toons. Hardy, Elemental, Mighty, etc., down from 25% to 15%.. just to spit out a few of the many nerfing. Yet, with the new nerfed cp factoring, am lucky to get 14%. All things toons are nerfed to shriveled pickles, yet, all bosses' game have been upped. Would be interesting and more enjoyable if nothing were nerfed, with this current addition of new tactics and skills for bosses and adds. Even though my toons are maxed out, I'm still being eaten up alive by lowly adds at dolmens and world bosses, etc. Ha ha. Haaa, no more soloing world bosses. No more feeling godlike or powerful, and gone were the days of pillaging through Tamriel and destroying everything in my wake. Whatever.. still trying hard to enjoy this game. Can't even think about getting into Warden or Vvardenfell, since all other toons are going backwards. Seems really ZOS/dev are on the bad guys side and don't want us good guys/toons to win in ESO. I wonder how far I can toss this game..

However, hope you all others are enjoying Morrowind and Wardens. Cool new skills with the Wardens, but they don't seem all that tough. Battle bear is allright.. but would it be cooler to have a battle mammoth? or a mammoth mount? Hmmm

Wardens suck and the changes aren't at dire as you'd like to make them. I can lol through overland content.

jircris11 · June 2017

People need to get overt this. They took your stupid ez mode, wait a month for a new one to pop up.

Krayzie · June 2017

I'm still soloing world bosses, dolmens, dungeons on my HIGH ELF stam blade

NinjaMyk · June 2017

Master at arms + tharmaturge with 30ish points in is each is 13% increase to all skills then get to 12% in mighty/tharmaturge = 25% flat damage then you pen and crit stars are more front loaded allowing you to get higher % than you would of before... Mess around with the new cp you can achieve similar damage buffs from cp as before

ShedsHisTail · June 2017

Cêltic421 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

True Elder Scrolls fans welcome this change...

We've been out of Stamina/Magicka since 1996.

Which ES game is this? Is it one?

ESII: Daggerfall.

Mazbt · June 2017

Sustain is fine in good raid groups. I noticed a difference when soloing but i just added some more regen to my build. I like the cp changes for the most part minus the siphon passive. You can potentially get more overall damage by using master of arms in combination with mighty/elemental

Gedalya · June 2017

Cêltic421 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

True Elder Scrolls fans welcome this change...

We've been out of Stamina/Magicka since 1996.

Which ES game is this? Is it one?

Yeah this is one (actually its two); you can download it for free off the Bethesda website: https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/arena/

You will need an emulator to run it; but that is easy too.

ShedsHisTail · June 2017

Gedalya wrote: »

Cêltic421 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

True Elder Scrolls fans welcome this change...

We've been out of Stamina/Magicka since 1996.

Which ES game is this? Is it one?

Yeah this is one (actually its two); you can download it for free off the Bethesda website: https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/arena/

You will need an emulator to run it; but that is easy too.

No, It's not that one, it's Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall, which you can also download and play with an emulator.
https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/daggerfall/

Tasear · June 2017

Dear console users,

It will be okay. We were there not too long ago. As your PC Masters we even have written guides for resource management and cp allocation. So we whip you back into shape, so after you will be pleased. This is a for the better.

Sincerely,
PC Master Race

flizomica · June 2017

It's not that bad at all. I adjusted my healer a bit and I'm now using a regen glyph on my mag NB. Still parsing well and not really struggling for resources on either of the toons I'm playing this patch.

Tasear · June 2017

Now that the inner troll here is free. I will be good.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337338/guide-how-to-sustain-come-morrowind/p1

Champion Points Jump Points for Elder Scrolls Online ESO - AlcastHQ

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://alcasthq.com/eso-championpoints-jumppoints/&ved=0ahUKEwiwwM_H17HUAhUUTGMKHfJ3AvgQFggeMAA&usg=AFQjCNEZZx3ujPPlrmYKMWv7YrJeDKek4Q&sig2=N9v4xG6T23wYsFUqf-USPQ

Gedalya · June 2017

Tasear wrote: »

Dear console users,

It will be okay. We were there not too long ago. As your PC Masters we even have written guides for resource management and cp allocation. So we whip you back into shape, so after you will be pleased. This is a for the better.

Sincerely,
PC Master Race

Lol; I was actually listening to Alcasts video on this. It is on the ESO news page: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/06/08/eso-morrowind--community-content-highlights

GreenhaloX · June 2017

Sigma957 wrote: »

Solo'ed a world boss on my stam sorc in Vvardenfell the other day so it is not all doom and I am just an average player was an intense fight with adds+boss

@Sigma957. Nice.. hey, good for you. I can't vouch for Vv (but, it must be easy then, if what you consider yourself to be an average player and can solo the boss there. ha ha), as I haven't gone there yet, but try soloing the Minotaur boss in the gold coast, or Rage Claw in Eastmarch, or those two Monsoon (what's the other one, hurricane?) tigers in Graftwood; just to spout out a few, if you or anybody would or got the time. Yeah, no.. prior patch, I was able to solo them with my stamDK and StamPlar. Now, I'm just getting my arse handed back to me. With Warlord (and Magician, for that matters) gone, all cost of abilities are up and relying more on heavy attacks to regain stam and whatnot. Not quite as easy anymore. Rolling and blocking still eating up your stam. With only 13% on Hardy and Elemental, that is a huge drop in resistance from what I had a 20-22% before. It shows, when you're not paying attention to the health bar, and all of a sudden, your screen is red. Oh crap, where's that Vigor or BoL, ha ha.

Shadow_Viper_vX · June 2017

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop complaining

This patch was desperately needed, game is headed in the right direction.

Thank you ZOS

GreenhaloX · June 2017

Tasear wrote: »

Dear console users,

It will be okay. We were there not too long ago. As your PC Masters we even have written guides for resource management and cp allocation. So we whip you back into shape, so after you will be pleased. This is a for the better.

Sincerely,
PC Master Race

Ha ha.. I've been at this long enough, I think. Although, good for the likes of Alcast, Fenghrush (is that right, how you spell it? Sorry if butchered it) or that raging dude, what's his name, Delta Foxtrot or something, to have clips of how-to and guides, whatever they do on their time for others.. But, I think I could figure things out on my own accord by now. You know, the training wheels have been off for awhile, and my security bip is safely tucked away somewhere. I appreciate your thoughts, however, master of PC, but here in meager old console land, I'm just referencing on how resistance and other abilities of stam toons have been slashed quite a bit (from 25% to 15%, etc..), and the experience (or non-warden toons) are not as good as what it use to be.

luen79rwb17_ESO · June 2017

So you have to be good at managing your resources and that's a bad thing?

If you like button smashing MMOs there are plenty out there where half of your screen is filled with action bars!