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Really debating whether I going to keep supporting ESO with my sub

  • Phinix1
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    Vicarra wrote: »
    Before someone starts bleating about "ruhh ruhh entitled snowflakes, no one gets free stuff blah blah", I have been subbed since launch and bought a buttload of stuff from the crownstore in addition to that. Having paid a considerable amount of money to them, I am a paying customer, so yes, I am entitled to certain things. For instance, I'm entitled to receive a product, as advertised, that I paid for in advance in good faith. I'm entitled to complain when I don't receive what I was led to believe I would get in return for the money I paid. I'm entitled to complain when their product does not match the expectations they are selling via their advertising. I'm entitled to stop giving them money when I don't think their product offers value for money anymore. I am entitled to offer feedback that will allow them to know what they can do to present a product that would make me change my mind.

    That's not being a whiny millenial, entitled snowflake, or whatever other insult gets thrown at those who want to exercise their consumer rights. In any other sphere of business, openly fleecing customers in this manner would get them reported to an ombudsman, and people would be getting compensation.

    Well said.
    Vicarra wrote: »
    ...it makes me suspicious about what scheme they're planning to unveil in the near future to fleece us more.

    This more than anything is what has put me off playing for the last month, even though I paid for early access with a pre-order. I just get the feeling that the people calling the shots are dragging a great game through the gutter and investing more in new clever ways to coerce people into throwing away more than a monthly sub for a product that refuses to fix things customers have requested for years.

    Their flat unwillingness to even respond to threads about Jewelry Crafting, Weapon Dying, Gear Re-styling, or a BoP Token System, tells me they are not really serious about their product and don't give a damn whether their customers are happy. They are not willing to put out this minimal effort to do things that would make most of their customers happy. They are more worried about how to spin the next gambling or marketing gimmick.

    As much as I love the game, corporate greed can ruin ANYTHING.

    EDIT: They also appear to have stopped banning the bot trains that have been running the Dreug in Shadowfen for MONTHS.

    Edited by Phinix1 on June 6, 2017 5:24PM
  • Barbara73
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    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye
    Not Every Player Is a Guy FFS
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?
  • Talon_Draconis
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Just over $500.00 canadian i've spent on ESO and no storage for HOMESTEAD, not even equippable MANNEQUINS that i saw in a building in Morrowind-already in game now with MW. This game is just a controlled MONEY PIT to get you to buy crowns so you can buy extra character slots or bank slots.

    Up to this point I was very satisfied with my sub got the dlc got a craft bag witch made things alot easier bought a few cosmetics and bought the dlc.
    Now the morrowind release really screwed us over and I fear if this cash grab works it will be the pattern for things to come....which means I will have to find another game to play

    I used to play alot of linage 2 till the bots took over and ruined the game....not the same thing here but znax screwing us over dose not encourage me to continue to support this game with my time and money
  • idk
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    STEVIL wrote: »
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    an entire month of entertainment for the cost of one decent lunch.


    I really don't see why people complain about sub costs for MMO's.

    I am not complaining about the cost really
    What I am complaining about is the way Zmax is going about it.
    They are force me to shell out another $50 bucks cash when I already gave them about $200 so far extra for content that should have been included in my sub.
    I pay my sub to support continued development of the game in effect prepaying for dlc which they promised.
    Calling Morrwind an expansion and not including it in the sub is screwing us over

    They are not forcing you to. You can choose to or not to and that is regardless of your sub status.

    Also, no sub benefits are permanent and forever iirc and they all vanish when you leave the sub - tho some retain partial function.

    Sub is paying for "benefit now" or "benefit while subbed" and like everything else you agreed to "the future" is all subject to change.

    if you did not get from the agreements you clicked that they can change things in the future without your consent... you need to re-read.

    if you did get that and you are now upset at a change announced six month ahead of time... you need to re-think.

    Unless you happened to buy a six month sub during the small window between jan 6 and feb 6ish when they announced morrowind and its "chapter" price, then you were never screwed... your bought subscriptions ran full course with the benefits.

    if you bought a sub AFTER the announcement then you should have known what you were getting.

    If you are upset that ZOS gave you an almost full six months lead time to this sub change to decide your course, becausethat is the "way Zmax is going about it."

    they gave you almost an entire six months to assess and evaluate before it affected you.

    Very few landlords have to give that much warning to their tenants and that is just, you know, a roof over your head level of importance.

    In the US a brand new law can take effect within 90 days, not nearly six months.

    You agreed they can change things and for this change they gave you almost six months lead... yeah... horrible business practice... so meany-jerky, bad-evil guy, not-nicey, poopy-head of them.

    I happend to be offline for 6mons came back in late may see the add for morrowind thought great! some new dlc like orcium
    Renewed my sub then found out a day latter that Morrwind was not included in the sub....said ok I will just buy it with crowns Have ton of them in my account.
    Was bit pissed that it was pissed that they called it an expatiation to get out of including with the other dlc but normal marketing shenanigans
    Then I found out I could not buy it using crowns their own virtual curacy forcing me to shell out $50 buck cash if I want it
    that really pissed me off !
    It's just a cash grab plain an simple.
    And it screws over people who subbed to get dlc

    Your lack of research before buying is not them screwing you.

    As a long time subber, i was not screwed by this.

    As VinneMac said "Brett screwed Brett."

    i am getting plenty for my sub - especially since they added more to it when morrow dropped.

    but them, i knew from the start that i agreed they can change anything anytime (just like you did) so any "future" promises are subject to change.

    this time they gave six months notice - which seems mighty nice of them, given i agreed to no warning needed.

    Hmm you don't seem to mind being screwed over
    Quote Oliver Twist "Please Sir can I have some more" ;)

    @Talon_Draconis just because you wait months to complain about this when we have known Morrowind would be a cash purchase only regardless of anything else and your just now complaining about it as though you have not paid attention to anything or put your head in the sand until it was to late.

    Some of us want to play this new content and are willing to shell out the cash. I can tell you we really don't care about your pointless rant. Pointless because it will not change anything for you.

    Wait for it to go on sale. Wait for it to be added to the crown store (maybe if will, maybe). Just don't expect the great praise and adoration because you are complaining about $40.
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Just over $500.00 canadian i've spent on ESO and no storage for HOMESTEAD, not even equippable MANNEQUINS that i saw in a building in Morrowind-already in game now with MW. This game is just a controlled MONEY PIT to get you to buy crowns so you can buy extra character slots or bank slots.

    Up to this point I was very satisfied with my sub got the dlc got a craft bag witch made things alot easier bought a few cosmetics and bought the dlc.
    Now the morrowind release really screwed us over and I fear if this cash grab works it will be the pattern for things to come....which means I will have to find another game to play

    I used to play alot of linage 2 till the bots took over and ruined the game....not the same thing here but znax screwing us over dose not encourage me to continue to support this game with my time and money

    My tactic is to offset, and complain, for now.

    If it's unfair, offset, so they don't make anymore from you than they would doing it a fair way. Complain, and encourage others to offset and complain too.

    I'd stick around, see if they change, they might.
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    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    If you plan on playing ESO active and on everyday basis, I find ESO+ essential. And new double bank space for subscribers is pretty neat. On the other hand, it is your wallet, so its up to you to decide.
  • Velvelya
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    If you even have to think about it, I think the answer is clear.

    Don't sub just buy crowns when you NEED/WANT a specific thing. I haven't bought anything in months.
  • briank741
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    I only play the game when I sub. Just in case, I always buy the DLC and in this case Morrowind, since even in game Morrowind is not classified DLC. It is classified an expansion; expansions like with any mmo have a price tag with it.

    They may include it, in the Crown store after an initial release, possibly when the cash sales slowdown.

    You must make the call for yourself. Stop subbing and wait and see if the expansion is added to the Crown store later.

    I am enjoying the expansion.
    Edited by briank741 on June 6, 2017 5:31PM
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Just over $500.00 canadian i've spent on ESO and no storage for HOMESTEAD, not even equippable MANNEQUINS that i saw in a building in Morrowind-already in game now with MW. This game is just a controlled MONEY PIT to get you to buy crowns so you can buy extra character slots or bank slots.

    Up to this point I was very satisfied with my sub got the dlc got a craft bag witch made things alot easier bought a few cosmetics and bought the dlc.
    Now the morrowind release really screwed us over and I fear if this cash grab works it will be the pattern for things to come....which means I will have to find another game to play

    I used to play alot of linage 2 till the bots took over and ruined the game....not the same thing here but znax screwing us over dose not encourage me to continue to support this game with my time and money

    My tactic is to offset, and complain, for now.

    If it's unfair, offset, so they don't make anymore from you than they would doing it a fair way. Complain, and encourage others to offset and complain too.

    I'd stick around, see if they change, they might.

    @kunquatb16_ESO

    You do realize most that were buying the expansion already did. The rest could care less that you have not.
  • koralr33fer
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    Everyone says that one unsub will not have an impact, but if the community as a whole cancelled for a month or two, that'd get their attention pretty quick. I dont blame you, a lot of bugs have gone unchecked and ZOS needs to see that its not all about cash flow, if they continue to keep ignoring feedback from community they will see a decline in profits. Im pissed about dungeon finder still not working on XBox since the homestead release 4 months ago...shame, shame shame...
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    neverwalk wrote: »
    Just over $500.00 canadian i've spent on ESO and no storage for HOMESTEAD, not even equippable MANNEQUINS that i saw in a building in Morrowind-already in game now with MW. This game is just a controlled MONEY PIT to get you to buy crowns so you can buy extra character slots or bank slots.

    Up to this point I was very satisfied with my sub got the dlc got a craft bag witch made things alot easier bought a few cosmetics and bought the dlc.
    Now the morrowind release really screwed us over and I fear if this cash grab works it will be the pattern for things to come....which means I will have to find another game to play

    I used to play alot of linage 2 till the bots took over and ruined the game....not the same thing here but znax screwing us over dose not encourage me to continue to support this game with my time and money

    My tactic is to offset, and complain, for now.

    If it's unfair, offset, so they don't make anymore from you than they would doing it a fair way. Complain, and encourage others to offset and complain too.

    I'd stick around, see if they change, they might.

    @kunquatb16_ESO

    You do realize most that were buying the expansion already did. The rest could care less that you have not.

    They can still offset retroactively. Doesn't mater when, before or after is the same outcome in the end.
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    I like the new Morrowind content and battlegrounds, I like the overall game and would certainly like to see it become more popular, more successful, but I don't quite understand why some choose to subscribe or cancel subscription for reasons of "support".

    Either the benefits of subscribing are worth it for you or they aren't. If you no longer enjoy playing this game, maybe it's time to take a break. It will still be there if you decide to play again in a few months.

    I subscribed at launch because it was required, then after it was no longer required my subscription expired and I didn't really notice any difference in the gameplay experience.

    A year or so later I subscribed again to access DLC and get some crowns for race change token, but found the crafting bag was so convenient that I've kept my subscription going since then. Now with the double bank space it is even more convenient.



    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on June 6, 2017 6:19PM
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.

    You mean that place I should have access to as an ESO+ member but got screwed out of by a paywall?
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.
    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.

    You mean that place I should have access to as an ESO+ member but got screwed out of by a paywall?

    No. I'm talking about Morrowind. It's merely an opinion of yours that you should already have access. Just an oppinion that will have little affect.
    Edited by idk on June 6, 2017 5:40PM
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.
    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.

    You mean that place I should have access to as an ESO+ member but got screwed out of by a paywall?

    No. I'm talking about Morrowind. It's merely an opinion of yours that you should already have access. Just an oppinion that will have little affect.

    Do you really believe player opinions don't matter?
  • Talon_Draconis
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.
    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.

    You mean that place I should have access to as an ESO+ member but got screwed out of by a paywall?

    No. I'm talking about Morrowind. It's merely an opinion of yours that you should already have access. Just an oppinion that will have little affect.

    Do you really believe player opinions don't matter?

    I hope so....if enugh of us state it
  • kylewwefan
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    Every time I re sub I think about not subbing. Then my inventory gets filled up. Quick. Or any number of other things that you get with sub. Then come to senses. $15 don't really go far, but adds quite a bit of qol to this game. I'm not gonna quit anytime soon so...........just pay it. Be happy.
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    There's a saying in the Thieves Guild ," just sheer the sheep , don't take the whole mutton " ...
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    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.
    Barbara73 wrote: »
    I am thing hard weather if I am going to keep subbing ESO plus
    Morrowind is DLC should be free with the sub or at least available with crowns!
    While I think ESO is the best MMO out there right now I really can't support there marketing strategy
    As far as the ESO plus the only thing that has any real value is the bag and access to dlc now they are calling DLC expantions and using that as a excuse for a cash grab
    With the $50 dollars they want for morrowind I could get whole other game
    Crowns are useless except to buy dlc there is nothing worth buying in the store.
    I assume Morrowind will eventually become available once zmax squeezes as much cash as it can from players
    I find this detestable and makes me want to not renew my sub in protest!
    I hope that zmax corrects this asp and puts Morrowind as regular dlc which it is ! and does not repeat this blatant cash grab again!

    Bye

    @Barbara73 are you going somewhere?

    He's going where you don't have access yet.

    You mean that place I should have access to as an ESO+ member but got screwed out of by a paywall?

    No. I'm talking about Morrowind. It's merely an opinion of yours that you should already have access. Just an oppinion that will have little affect.

    Do you really believe player opinions don't matter?

    Considering how active the zone has been the past two weeks it's clear where oppinion stands and that these small selection of disgruntled ads just that, a small part of the population.

    All the best.

    Edit: the ship has sailed. It would be highly unwise for Zos to make Morrowind part of ESO+ at this moment as they have already sold tons of copies already.

    It's business. Does Zos care about our oppinions? Yes, but on this matter, Morrowind, the case is shut.

    If you want to play Morrowind you will buy it. You may wait until it's on sale but your young to buy it if you are going to play it. Simple as that.
    Edited by idk on June 6, 2017 6:00PM
  • playsforfun
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

  • Axoinus
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    Please realize that by playing the game, you are still supporting it. Maybe not as much as monthly subscriber. But you are supporting it nonetheless. In particular If you team/auction, you are actually supplying content for other players.

    People come and go from MMOS all the time. Just pay-up and be a good citizen. You know you want to.

  • Talon_Draconis
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it
  • idk
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it

    It's your choice to leave it. No one, certainly not Zos, is making you leave. If $40 usd is that big a deal for you then I'd say maybe your not as into the game as you think.

    Especially since savings from 3 months without sub covers the cost.
    Edited by idk on June 6, 2017 6:02PM
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    OP, I wouldn't fault you for un-subbing. As much as I love this game, I'm real close to quitting it. When a game is more work than fun it is time to leave. For me, the relentless grind with its horrid RNG is just too much work. And the current business model of 'fluff' over content is another red flag.

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  • Talon_Draconis
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it

    It's your choice to leave it. No one, certainly not Zos, is making you leave. If $40 usd is that big a deal for you then I'd say maybe your not as into the game as you think.

    Especially since savings from 3 months without sub covers the cost.

    It's not the Money is the way zmax is treating us....calling dlc a explanation it should have been included with the sub and available in the crown store just like any other xpack
  • idk
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it

    It's your choice to leave it. No one, certainly not Zos, is making you leave. If $40 usd is that big a deal for you then I'd say maybe your not as into the game as you think.

    Especially since savings from 3 months without sub covers the cost.

    It's not the Money is the way zmax is treating us....calling dlc a explanation it should have been included with the sub and available in the crown store just like any other xpack

    Honestly, get over it or move on. It's a dead horse and It's to late for Zos to change this. Your thread will do nothing.
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it

    It's your choice to leave it. No one, certainly not Zos, is making you leave. If $40 usd is that big a deal for you then I'd say maybe your not as into the game as you think.

    Especially since savings from 3 months without sub covers the cost.

    I agree, just offset, don't leave.

    If Zos pull another stunt like this though, offsetting might not be an option, lets hope they change their ways.
  • kunquatb16_ESO
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    I've cancelled my sub and have been subbed since the release of the game, i don't see the point in it any more as i'm only sporadically playing atm,

    I am seriously of thinking of switching my time and money to eve online and mybe picking up skyrim enshaned ed
    but I love this mmo and hate to leave it

    It's your choice to leave it. No one, certainly not Zos, is making you leave. If $40 usd is that big a deal for you then I'd say maybe your not as into the game as you think.

    Especially since savings from 3 months without sub covers the cost.

    It's not the Money is the way zmax is treating us....calling dlc a explanation it should have been included with the sub and available in the crown store just like any other xpack

    Honestly, get over it or move on. It's a dead horse and It's to late for Zos to change this. Your thread will do nothing.

    You really seem to be suggesting player feedback is pointless. If you believe that, why are you so invested in defending it?
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