Sigtric wrote: »

Absalon wrote: »

No lifers voting no I supposed. Skyshards and achievments should be account wide.

Or people who actually enjoy playing the game and not treating every little thing like a chore?

Yes, funny how people assume that just because you like doing different stuff you instantly spend 12 hours a day playing :P

WarpigFunk wrote: »

Yes they should be shared account - wide - however, your skyshard skill points should only become available to you at level 50 (for alt characters who did not actively hunt them)

The benefits are that you only ever have to skyshard hunt once, and that when you hit level 50 you now have a nice skill point dump from previous character leveling.
The drawback is you do not have access to skyshards/ skyshard skillpoints while leveling a new character, until you hit max level.

One other consequence of doing this, is that you can get the Cyrodiil skyshards on three different alts, in three different factions in the relevant zones - so a Yellow alt wont need to hunt skyshards in the Red areas of Cyrodiil, as long as you have at least three different alts in three different factions.


If CP can be shared account wide, allowing you to have a level 3 character running around with 630 CP, then there is no legit reason that skyshard skill points shouldn't be shared account wide - as long as you don't have access to them until max level.


To clarify, prior to level 50 you only get "credit" on a given toon for skyshards you actually find in game on that toon. At level 50 you are then automatically given "credit" for all skyshards found by all characters on that account.

Agree with this in that it would help only after getting to 50.
Another option would be to tie it Caldwell silver and gold? For example, if you complete the main quest to an area you unlock the skyshards for that area that were already found by one of your other characters. And cyrodill skyshards could be tied to the main quest.

P.s.: voted no do to biased poll, if you want a more accurate poll give yes and no options and ask for reason why.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

It's so funny to read this thread.

All of you must be using the addons who tells you where are all the skyshards and lorebooks are, on console it can take between 8-14h to get Mage Guild to 10 and all skyshards can take you a week or more while on PC I used to get mage guild 10 in 2h for a character level 40 that I was gonna use in BwB.


In console there's no addons to tell you when to dodge, to change gear every 2 sec, to grind skill points, lorebooks, dps, and I can keep going for 60 or more lines.

It shouldn't be account wide in my opinion, we should just be able to unlock their location when we first get one of them, per example if I get a lorebook it should show on my next character that in that place I can get a lorebook and same for the skyshards so the grind lovers will be happy and the people like OP who rather play tham grinding will be happy too because it will become easier.

It can take you a whole 8-14 hours to max an entire skill line? The absolute HORROR!

Compared to 2h in PC yes it is an absolute horror, I also max out any single skill line in 1h like everyone do, why Mage Guild should take 8-14h for console players and just 2h for PC players?

Why is this forum crowded of selfish people I would never understand it.

I also say 8-14h from my perspective as a veteran player who knows which zones are the best to farm, a casual will maybe spend an entire week.

lagrue wrote: »

Clearly a biased poll but whatever, I'll take the bait.

I don't think they should be account wide - as it is now, people rush characters to 50 in under 8 hours...

Wtf? Ok, I play on xbox and started like 5 weeks ago. I have signed up on eso plus for now, which gives a 10% xp bonus and I use at least 2 pieces of gear that boost another 7-9% I have 6 characters, level 27, 26 x3, 23, and 20.

How the #*&% do you get to 50 in 8 hours? I personally find leveling in this game to be the slowest of all the games I've played within the last 2 yrs (Destiny, BF1, STO, Witcher 3, etc). This game is literally, at least to me, a slow af agonizing crawl to level up.

Clearly, I'm doing something wrong.

mkm1911a1 wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

Clearly a biased poll but whatever, I'll take the bait.

I don't think they should be account wide - as it is now, people rush characters to 50 in under 8 hours...

Wtf? Ok, I play on xbox and started like 5 weeks ago. I have signed up on eso plus for now, which gives a 10% xp bonus and I use at least 2 pieces of gear that boost another 7-9% I have 6 characters, level 27, 26 x3, 23, and 20.

How the #*&% do you get to 50 in 8 hours? I personally find leveling in this game to be the slowest of all the games I've played within the last 2 yrs (Destiny, BF1, STO, Witcher 3, etc). This game is literally, at least to me, a slow af agonizing crawl to level up.

Clearly, I'm doing something wrong.

You are doing something wrong. Many people would say Skyreach, which yes, is one method - but honestly every starting zone also has abusable areas - the best example I have is Vivec's Antlers in Stonefalls - using just 50% Scrolls, 10% from ESO+, and all training gear - I'm able to do an alt in 10 hours, give or take. As a first time player it will never be as easy - because you can't craft training gear, you'd have to buy it or have it made for you - but altogether if every piece is training it adds something like 70-80% EXP which is a huge boost. Psygic Ambrosias also give another 50-150% depending on the tier you get ahold of. I can only craft the 50% EXP version, but it's more than good enough - problem is as a nw player you won't have access to this recipe for a LONG time, and single 30 minute potions cost upwards of 3-4k. All in all leveling the second time around is easier - the first time is the only time in this game you actually have to do any real work to build yourself up.

If you play the game like a normal human being, then yes - it is slow. But of course, like anything in games - you have a crowd of people who feel the need to rush everything and have everything as fast as possible - so if you're willing to sit in one area for 10 hours to farm, you'll get your levels out of it... probably won't have much fun though.

[snip] No one on the forums has apparently taken a statistics class or done any kind of research project.

"Yes" I want to be able to make new characters and try new things and enjoy all the game has to offer. It discourages me from doing that knowing when it comes to collectibles like Books and Skyshards I've gotta catch em all -all over again.

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It's genuine game feature that no one makes you do. Sure, I have missed the stupid shard in a dungeon I barely escaped from but no one forced me to put on my big girl pants and go back in to get it. It isn't a pointless exercise but is best done from the beginning and I don't find running around Khenarthi's Roost or other starter zone as boring as I find the initial Harborage rescue of Lyris. That I would like to skip.

I've been playing since the release on ps4,

they just need to tone down the grind as its far too long.

CP account wide, achievements rewards account wide, undaunted trophees account wide, mementos account wide, disguises account wide etc.. now you want shards to be account wide, why not lore books after , so what will be left to do on new toons now? Power leveling in skyreach, at this point let's ask to be able to create a lvl 50 new toon on character creation page? I think it's a no go, gotta work your new toons a bit man. I level my toons by collecting shards, wayshrines, lorebooks and killing dwelves bosses, by the time my toon is 50, after only a few hours of play, i get over 130 shards, almost mage guild lvl 10... i call this layzy leveling toon, didn't expect to have people more laysy than i am :P

max_only wrote: »

No

BUT

they should be marked on the map for the whole account once they are found the first time. Especially for the plebs, life is hard enough for people without real computers :P

That would be nice for console players, but it still leaves the issue with the time required to start another character unresolved. It simply is disproportionally hard for people to create a new character after maxing out one and understand the mechanics of other classes. This " barrier" as I like to call it prevents your overall skill progression and at the same time forces you to spend your time running around the map. Thats why I consider it a regressive task. It develops nothing and requires insane amount of time to acomplish.