Atheric Cipher drops are a Myth.

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I know what Zos said about finding Atheric Cipher, so I don't need a link to that page. (Drops from Monsters in non dlc zones, blah blah blah....)

My personal observation after playing this game more than any human should play a game (284.54 days and over 1000 cp.), is Atheric Cipher must have the lowest drop rate of anything in this game.

Perhaps Zos should offer it for sale?

What do you think?



  • Nestor
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    Perhaps Zos should offer it for sale?

    What do you think?



    They already do, at least what the drink you make from the process does

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/315315/crown-crate-experience-scrolls-now-purchasable-for-gems

    Edited by Nestor on June 1, 2017 8:49PM
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  • f047ys3v3n
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    It does have the lowest drop rate.

    I believe you can obtain one with crafting vouchers though. That is probably a much easier way to acquire it.
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  • LiquidPony
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    I know what Zos said about finding Atheric Cipher, so I don't need a link to that page. (Drops from Monsters in non dlc zones, blah blah blah....)

    My personal observation after playing this game more than any human should play a game (284.54 days and over 1000 cp.), is Atheric Cipher must have the lowest drop rate of anything in this game.

    Perhaps Zos should offer it for sale?

    What do you think?



    I've got thousands of hours in-game and I've never come across one.
  • starkerealm
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    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    It does have the lowest drop rate.

    I believe you can obtain one with crafting vouchers though. That is probably a much easier way to acquire it.

    The voucher version is... diminished? Or reduced, or something. I forget the exact term. It's for a 100% XP boost scroll, instead of a %150.
  • Dread_Guy
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    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    It does have the lowest drop rate.

    I believe you can obtain one with crafting vouchers though. That is probably a much easier way to acquire it.

    The voucher one only gives 100% XP boost compared to a cipher's 150%
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  • phairdon
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    Yet to see one advertised in zone chat. Mind you, only found two lots of Aetherial dust, since both items were introduced.
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  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    It does have the lowest drop rate.

    I believe you can obtain one with crafting vouchers though. That is probably a much easier way to acquire it.

    Nope I already bought that recipe "Atherial Abrosia" which is only 100% xp not 150%.
  • SFDB
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    I bought one off zone chat for 2.5 million about a month after it was released. Since then I think I've seen three for sale in zone chat and about a dozen total in guild stores (usually priced 5+ million). It remains an extremely rare drop, but you can find it if you are willing to pay serious in-game money for it.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    It's ment to be super rare as the drop rate from the Crown Crate. You can find some on guild traders
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  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    SFDB wrote: »
    I bought one off zone chat for 2.5 million about a month after it was released. Since then I think I've seen three for sale in zone chat and about a dozen total in guild stores (usually priced 5+ million). It remains an extremely rare drop, but you can find it if you are willing to pay serious in-game money for it.

    I am on the Xbox NA server and have yet to see one in a guild store. What platform and server are you on?
  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    It's ment to be super rare as the drop rate from the Crown Crate. You can find some on guild traders

    Crown crates?
  • Floki_Vilgerdarson
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Yet to see one advertised in zone chat. Mind you, only found two lots of Aetherial dust, since both items were introduced.

    Yep, my account of 12 toons going hard has only gotten me two of the Aetherial Dust which you cannot even use with the recipe sold through the writ vouchers.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    It's ment to be super rare as the drop rate from the Crown Crate. You can find some on guild traders

    Crown crates?

    Yes the original version is the 150% XP scroll that drops from crown crates. It's a legendary item supposed to be rare.

    People complained and then ZOS made the crafted version via this ultra rare drop (aetheric cipher)
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I've seen quite a few guildies get them. Super rare, but not a myth.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on June 1, 2017 9:17PM
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Its certainly not a myth, I saw a few in guild stores.
    Super rare? Yes, surely. But there's still plenty of ambrosia on the market so its not like people are forced to buy crown crates to get that 150% buff.
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  • SFDB
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    SFDB wrote: »
    I bought one off zone chat for 2.5 million about a month after it was released. Since then I think I've seen three for sale in zone chat and about a dozen total in guild stores (usually priced 5+ million). It remains an extremely rare drop, but you can find it if you are willing to pay serious in-game money for it.

    I am on the Xbox NA server and have yet to see one in a guild store. What platform and server are you on?

    PC NA.
  • supaskrub
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    I bought the Cipher a few days ago through seeing it listed in zone chat (infact there were two listed within a couple of hours of each other on xboxEU), first I've seen in a couple of months, First guy wanted 5 million for his and then half an hour later or so it was still unsold as he re-listed it in chat, this time he wanted 2 million, i messaged him and offered 1.8m and he accepted.

    Now i can craft Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia.... but no one wants any
  • Darth_Trumpious
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    Two of my guildmates had it dropped in one day so I say it is pure RNG. Both were sold quickly for 2mil golds. One observation is they are both new players so I say the RNG god favors newbies more. The more you play and struggle to get it, the less chance you will find it - better just to spend efforts getting more golds and buy it from the market.
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    supaskrub wrote: »
    I bought the Cipher a few days ago through seeing it listed in zone chat (infact there were two listed within a couple of hours of each other on xboxEU), first I've seen in a couple of months, First guy wanted 5 million for his and then half an hour later or so it was still unsold as he re-listed it in chat, this time he wanted 2 million, i messaged him and offered 1.8m and he accepted.

    Now i can craft Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia.... but no one wants any

    And that's the real problem. The Cipher is so rare and the dust is so rare that, to make it profitable for you, you have to charge much that most anyone who would actually need it can't affford it. It's why I haven't bothered.
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  • staracino_ESO
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    If you are farming for it, try killing mobs with higher health. In my experience, mobs with lower health (wovles, jackals, wasps, scamps, etc.) have lower drop rates for most everything; while bigger creatures like bears, ogres, and humanoids drop rare stuff more often. Perhaps it is just superstition, but it may be worth investigating.
  • disintegr8
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    I've given up on getting the cipher - 40+ hours a week every week and never seem it. Mind you, as a crafter who does a lot of harvesting, I have also only found 4 dusts as well.

    I don't even want it to make profit, I want it so I can learn it and will probably never use it.
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  • S1ipperyJim
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    supaskrub wrote: »
    I bought the Cipher a few days ago through seeing it listed in zone chat (infact there were two listed within a couple of hours of each other on xboxEU), first I've seen in a couple of months, First guy wanted 5 million for his and then half an hour later or so it was still unsold as he re-listed it in chat, this time he wanted 2 million, i messaged him and offered 1.8m and he accepted.

    Now i can craft Mythic Aetherial Ambrosia.... but no one wants any

    How do you relist stuff you've put in your trader? I never work out how people do this
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    While farming a sharpened spriggan dagger, I found 5 aetherial dusts, no cyphers and one sharpened dagger :neutral:
  • GlassHalfFull
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    It took me two and a half years to get my first impetial motif drop, then just a month later i had another.

    Be patient, dont be entitled.
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Yet to see one advertised in zone chat. Mind you, only found two lots of Aetherial dust, since both items were introduced.

    I have seen them for sale in guild traders before master writs were added to the game. Saw two.
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    Are we 100% sure the one from writ vouchers is different to the drop one? Do they have different names then?

    I thought only the crown one was 150%, and the drop aetherial was the same as the voucher aetherial.

    Anyone got the sources of that from.patch notes etc they must have been added different times?

    (Xbox EU and i have writ vouchers to spare so trying to make the biggest buck between that recipe and or Ebony motif!)
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Are we 100% sure the one from writ vouchers is different to the drop one? Do they have different names then?

    I thought only the crown one was 150%, and the drop aetherial was the same as the voucher aetherial.

    Anyone got the sources of that from.patch notes etc they must have been added different times?

    (Xbox EU and i have writ vouchers to spare so trying to make the biggest buck between that recipe and or Ebony motif!)

    They are 100% different.
    The writ one is weaker (+100% instead of 150%), it has a different name and uses a different ingredient (diminished aetherial dust instead of normal aetherial dust).
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    The real question is would you sell or use it if your found it? >:)
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I've given up on getting the cipher - 40+ hours a week every week and never seem it. Mind you, as a crafter who does a lot of harvesting, I have also only found 4 dusts as well.

    I don't even want it to make profit, I want it so I can learn it and will probably never use it.

    You can't farm it. Just play the game as you normally would. You'll either get one or you won't.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    The real question is would you sell or use it if your found it? >:)

    Sell.

    The profit margins on potions are so thin that you'd need to sell thousands to just make back the value of the cipher.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on June 2, 2017 7:04AM
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