PAoE ults shouldn't cost less then most stationary AOE ults.

Animus-ESO · May 2017

I find this to be a problem in pvp. I rarely see a DK banner or a Templar solar prison ever being dropped in pvp. The cost is simply outrageous compared to better skills like EoTS or batswarm. I really think zos should revisit these neglected ults and change the cost. I would very much like to see more variety out there on the battle field. Any thoughts to add?

NightbladeMechanics · May 2017

ZOS logic?

ezeepeezee · May 2017

How about not having a gigantic, extremely high damage PBAoE to begin with? Bad mechanics are bad.

casparian · May 2017

Would you like to see a mobile Major Maim? Would you like Major Defile to be effectively added to DKs' Chain pull? And do you really want to remove counterplay from Bats? I don't think any of those ults should be given Eye of the Storm-style player-following morphs. Stationary ults require careful planning, skillful execution, and encourage coordinated team play. (And by that I mean actual coordination, not just 12 people using the same skill.) But then again, I don't think Eye of the Storm should exist either. You've identified a real problem, but like many problems in PVP, the solution is to delete Eye of the Storm.

Baconlad · May 2017

Or stop with the rediculous synergies for class ults.

Nova does roughly the same damage as meteor single target. Has a stun, has a burst component, has a dot.

Nova is more expensive and larger and has a damage reduction component, but has most of its damage locked behind a synergy. It was accually nerfed at somw point as allies within nova gained reduction to damage, while now enemies within it gain reduced outgoing damage...i liked the original.

The cost of nova need to be brought down, or the direct damage component/ stun needs to be given without a synergy....

On second thought the whole skill needs to be rethought.

Eye of the storm is a bit too powerful as well. Cost reduction and damage need brought down.

ezeepeezee · May 2017

casparian wrote: »

Would you like to see a mobile Major Maim? Would you like Major Defile to be effectively added to DKs' Chain pull? And do you really want to remove counterplay from Bats? I don't think any of those ults should be given Eye of the Storm-style player-following morphs. Stationary ults require careful planning, skillful execution, and encourage coordinated team play. (And by that I mean actual coordination, not just 12 people using the same skill.) But then again, I don't think Eye of the Storm should exist either. You've identified a real problem, but like many problems in PVP, the solution is to delete Eye of the Storm.

I personally think a better solution is to have PBAoE damage scale on the number of targets being hit with it. AoEs shouldn't just be a straight up replacement for single target abilities.

Juhasow · May 2017

Some ultimates have better use in PvE some in PvP that's simple.

GreenSoup2HoT · May 2017

You might see other ultimates if EotS wasnt blatently overtuned. I mean like.. who thought giving everyone an ult double the damage as bats but also fire damage against vamps was a good idea...

Valencer · May 2017

ezeepeezee wrote: »

How about not having a gigantic, extremely high damage PBAoE to begin with? Bad mechanics are bad.

It's so obvious, but apparently the developers disagree

Qbiken · May 2017

Anyone care to explain what PBAoE means??

Rianai · May 2017

Point-Blank Area of Effect

Basically AoE skills that surround the caster, like Eye of the Storm.

NightbladeMechanics · May 2017

Careful. You complain about Eye of the Storm too much, and ZOS will make Elemental Rage an enemy-based aoe. Cast at target enemy, and it'll follow them around for 7 seconds. Boom, no one uses Eye of the Storm anymore.

Wreuntzylla · May 2017

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I find this to be a problem in pvp. I rarely see a DK banner or a Templar solar prison ever being dropped in pvp. The cost is simply outrageous compared to better skills like EoTS or batswarm. I really think zos should revisit these neglected ults and change the cost. I would very much like to see more variety out there on the battle field. Any thoughts to add?

I can't remember the last time I saw either of those ults in PvP. DKs almost universally use leap, and Templars use anything but nova. Dawnbreaker, shalk + light's champion, etc.

Which brings up the point of how good the resto staff ultis are.

Waffennacht · May 2017

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I find this to be a problem in pvp. I rarely see a DK banner or a Templar solar prison ever being dropped in pvp. The cost is simply outrageous compared to better skills like EoTS or batswarm. I really think zos should revisit these neglected ults and change the cost. I would very much like to see more variety out there on the battle field. Any thoughts to add?

I can't remember the last time I saw either of those ults in PvP. DKs almost universally use leap, and Templars use anything but nova. Dawnbreaker, shalk + light's champion, etc.

Which brings up the point of how good the resto staff ultis are.

They don't listen until it becomes OP threads. That ult is crazy good

Animus-ESO · June 2017

Rianai wrote: »

Point-Blank Area of Effect

Basically AoE skills that surround the caster, like Eye of the Storm.

It means Portable Area of Effect - PAoE

DocFrost72 · June 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Careful. You complain about Eye of the Storm too much, and ZOS will make Elemental Rage an enemy-based aoe. Cast at target enemy, and it'll follow them around for 7 seconds. Boom, no one uses Eye of the Storm anymore.

You sir, are a f**ing sadist.

Lord-Otto · June 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Careful. You complain about Eye of the Storm too much, and ZOS will make Elemental Rage an enemy-based aoe. Cast at target enemy, and it'll follow them around for 7 seconds. Boom, no one uses Eye of the Storm anymore.

Like the zergbuster Inevitable Det?
PURGE.