Streega wrote: »

There is an addon which works like a global store (sorry, won't advertise it). The result? Prices of rare items increased up to 10x. I was looking for a motif, which normally costs around 10k (price from BEFORE the festivals, so not a seasonal decrease). Somebody put it in a guild store for 20k, what is already twice the value suggested by Master Merchant. 10 min later the motif was bought and re-appeared in Belkarth... for 40k.
Is this what you want? Because this is what the big whale trading guilds do now: keep the addon open and look for best prices, then re-selling the items for 500% more.
When I open the tab with blue, purple and gold recipes it's all red (meaning the items are overpriced). 100, 200, 500% more than before NLF (I have data from last 200+ days).

The most relevant point out here. Thank you.

Even tho, I disagree about one point. It might be only concerning a part of the community at the moment, but it's already there with all the addons.

Darlgon wrote: »

ZoS has said.. since launch... "A global trading system would require us to scrap the entire games code and rebuild. That is not going to happen."

Grow up, learn to search for the 1000 threads on this already, and move on.

And use https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

Did they also say there would never be One Tamriel?

There are some causes that deserve to not be left alone. Although I think the chances are slim indeed - it's such a frustrating useless waste of time.

Hey, I'm happy for everyone that it adds flair to, so the best option would be to have both. The central trader that offers everything will be next to a special trade waypoint - so everyone that does not want to use it won't have to see him and can still run around and visit every other trader.

Yes I know, there is the whole "gold sink" issue. That is something I won't lose sleep over, ZOS can solve that one with extra fees and such.

AlnilamE wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

ZoS has said.. since launch... "A global trading system would require us to scrap the entire games code and rebuild. That is not going to happen."

Grow up, learn to search for the 1000 threads on this already, and move on.

And use https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

Did they also say there would never be One Tamriel?

There are some causes that deserve to not be left alone. Although I think the chances are slim indeed - it's such a frustrating useless waste of time.

Hey, I'm happy for everyone that it adds flair to, so the best option would be to have both. The central trader that offers everything will be next to a special trade waypoint - so everyone that does not want to use it won't have to see him and can still run around and visit every other trader.

Yes I know, there is the whole "gold sink" issue. That is something I won't lose sleep over, ZOS can solve that one with extra fees and such.

By the time this "central trade hub" finished loading, you'd have found the item you are looking for 5 times over by going from trader to trader.

That's a good point, you are saying the system needs improvement in any case, I totally agree.

Furinol wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

There is an addon which works like a global store (sorry, won't advertise it). The result? Prices of rare items increased up to 10x. I was looking for a motif, which normally costs around 10k (price from BEFORE the festivals, so not a seasonal decrease). Somebody put it in a guild store for 20k, what is already twice the value suggested by Master Merchant. 10 min later the motif was bought and re-appeared in Belkarth... for 40k.
Is this what you want? Because this is what the big whale trading guilds do now: keep the addon open and look for best prices, then re-selling the items for 500% more.
When I open the tab with blue, purple and gold recipes it's all red (meaning the items are overpriced). 100, 200, 500% more than before NLF (I have data from last 200+ days).

Understood, but it is already happening as you have stated.

The difference is it wouldn't be limited to the "big trading guilds". This isn't a huge deal for me because for the most part I treat this as a single player game - in part due to this but more due to the awkwardness of guild/social interaction on the consoles.

I agree, but it is actually what the big guilds do, not the "casuals". First, all the re-sales I've seen are made by Belkarth, Rawl'kha, Elden Root and Wayrest moguls. They play to make money, not to enjoy the game itself, so their "game" is trading (no offence intended, just a fact). Besides, they need absurd money to play another mini-game: outbid others to get the best spot.
As a "casual", I don't have the time, the resources or the will to run back and forth and play a speculator. I just want to sell/buy for a fair price, and that is what Master Merchant helps me with. That "global" addon just ruined the market for me.

100% NO. Currently as a buyer effort = reward. Don't try to wreck a cool part of the game cos you are lazy.

No auction house. No dragons. No flying mounts. No capes.

Will the forums ever learn to accept that this is not the other games they have played in the past? If they want these things, then either go play those games or make your own.

Not exactly, would rather it be one in each city, or something, that way we don't have hundreds of players all gathered around a single npc. Just make some town crier kind of character...

Rainwhisper wrote: »

I'll upvote this topic every time it comes up. Nothing drives me battier than having to waste what little playtime I have galloping all over the world looking for a decent price on an item (and that's with TTC).

this. this. this.

price fixing is already happening and it was happening before TTC.

Thank you everyone for your feedback ! You're great !!!

Beardimus wrote: »

100% NO. Currently as a buyer effort = reward. Don't try to wreck a cool part of the game cos you are lazy.

Has nothing to do with lazy. Has EVERYTHING to do with having a four hour day to play, and spending 3-4 of that trying to sort through every trader to find a single chapter of a single motif, for the best price. That is NEVER a good idea. Developers should want players to have fun playing, not spending, literally, all of their time battling a horrible game system.

BigBragg wrote: »

No auction house. No dragons. No flying mounts. No capes.

Will the forums ever learn to accept that this is not the other games they have played in the past? If they want these things, then either go play those games or make your own.

I love how some players equate having a singular trader to having dragons and other ridiculous ideas. Just because we want a way to not have to bash our heads against a brick wall over and over doesn't mean we want crazy crap. As for the next part, we play the game because we like THIS game. That doesn't mean we love every single aspect. If you do, that's awesome, but pretty sure that 99.999% of players all have something about the game they don't like, and most have things they find downright irritating or frustrating.

Should we tell them to go find another game just because they think Trials are boring, or that RNG is crap, or PVP isn't balanced well... I mean, because we all know that every MMO is Elder Scrolls, and they did the stuff like we want it... oh, wait, no, they aren't. Just because they have those few things done right, doesn't make it the game we want to play. We're attempting to get aspects fixed that drive us nuts, and make no sense.

helediron wrote: »

This fragmented system is very efficient in preventing monopolies.

true that...its also exciting when you find a good deal...

Avalon wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

100% NO. Currently as a buyer effort = reward. Don't try to wreck a cool part of the game cos you are lazy.

Has nothing to do with lazy. Has EVERYTHING to do with having a four hour day to play, and spending 3-4 of that trying to sort through every trader to find a single chapter of a single motif, for the best price. That is NEVER a good idea. Developers should want players to have fun playing, not spending, literally, all of their time battling a horrible game system.

BigBragg wrote: »

No auction house. No dragons. No flying mounts. No capes.

Will the forums ever learn to accept that this is not the other games they have played in the past? If they want these things, then either go play those games or make your own.

I love how some players equate having a singular trader to having dragons and other ridiculous ideas. Just because we want a way to not have to bash our heads against a brick wall over and over doesn't mean we want crazy crap. As for the next part, we play the game because we like THIS game. That doesn't mean we love every single aspect. If you do, that's awesome, but pretty sure that 99.999% of players all have something about the game they don't like, and most have things they find downright irritating or frustrating.

Should we tell them to go find another game just because they think Trials are boring, or that RNG is crap, or PVP isn't balanced well... I mean, because we all know that every MMO is Elder Scrolls, and they did the stuff like we want it... oh, wait, no, they aren't. Just because they have those few things done right, doesn't make it the game we want to play. We're attempting to get aspects fixed that drive us nuts, and make no sense.

My point is, that it would take a change to the game's base code. This has been stated time and time again. So through comparing it to other things that would require as much work, I am pointing out they are just as fanciful as dragons. No you don't need to like everything in the game. I certainly do not. However, there is enough information in the forums to know what things have absolutely no hope of ever changing, yet people beat the ever loving *** out of these dead horses.