Maintenance for the week of December 15:
· [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – December 15, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
Too much maintenance...
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As I said, just because they're the same genre doesn't meant they made the same way at all.Never noticed the WoW servers being down for a hotfix and I played i A LOT.
And I know ESO and WoW are different but they are both mmorpgs.
That's like asking why a Mazda M3 can't beat a Mclaren F1's time on a track day, they're both cars right?
There is a whole list of reasons why ESO is not WoW and ZOS is not Blizzard. If Blizzard and WoW is so perfect why are you here again? Because you love ESO right? Sadly part of ESO is the downtimes, because that's how this game is.
So you either take WoW and Blizzard and their no downtimes but not the game you want to actually play, or you take ESO and ZOS and accept that it's not the perfect package but you love it any way.
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The_Red_Viper✭✭✭The problem is not the maintenance itself, but the time during which they decide to dispatch it. In other games like WoW they do the maintenance separately on different days for NA and EU and do them between 3am and 6am, when the minimium amount of players are online.3 -
Aluiries✭✭✭The_Red_Viper wrote: »The problem is not the maintenance itself, but the time during which they decide to dispatch it. In other games like WoW they do the maintenance separately on different days for NA and EU and do them between 3am and 6am, when the minimium amount of players are online.
If there is a patch involved they would have to do it at the same time, due to the game using the same client.
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lakaisl✭✭✭I agree with the fact the maintenance times suck balls, but at the beginning of the game they had separate starting times for NA en EU. At some point they had a meeting and some genius probably suggested that it would save money if they did maintenance at the same time for NA and EU.
That's what we call bad costumer service and "good chart-management".1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I am not new to mmorpg games -_-
I am just saying that they should take an example of blizzard... Those servers are pretty much never offline...
If they can do hotfixes and stuff without the players even noticing it then why can't ZOS do this as well?
Just saying...
wait what? bwahahahahaha, wait.. are you serious? oh god, my belly hurts from laughing so hard. Blizzard has roughly the same amount of maintenances for WoW as ESO and even after over a decade of running that game, they STILL occasionally end up with extended ones. I mean.. speak about irony.. there is a maintenance scheduled for this morning for WoW, starting in a few hours in fact. as they usually run one on tuesdays.Edited by Linaleah on May 30, 2017 8:43AMdirty worthless casual.
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As I said, just because they're the same genre doesn't meant they made the same way at all.Never noticed the WoW servers being down for a hotfix and I played i A LOT.
And I know ESO and WoW are different but they are both mmorpgs.
That's like asking why a Mazda M3 can't beat a Mclaren F1's time on a track day, they're both cars right?
There is a whole list of reasons why ESO is not WoW and ZOS is not Blizzard. If Blizzard and WoW is so perfect why are you here again? Because you love ESO right? Sadly part of ESO is the downtimes, because that's how this game is.
So you either take WoW and Blizzard and their no downtimes but not the game you want to actually play, or you take ESO and ZOS and accept that it's not the perfect package but you love it any way.
If the F1 only drives at 40 Mph and the Mazda drives around 70 it would probably win
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VeenixO✭✭
As I said, just because they're the same genre doesn't meant they made the same way at all.Never noticed the WoW servers being down for a hotfix and I played i A LOT.
And I know ESO and WoW are different but they are both mmorpgs.
That's like asking why a Mazda M3 can't beat a Mclaren F1's time on a track day, they're both cars right?
There is a whole list of reasons why ESO is not WoW and ZOS is not Blizzard. If Blizzard and WoW is so perfect why are you here again? Because you love ESO right? Sadly part of ESO is the downtimes, because that's how this game is.
So you either take WoW and Blizzard and their no downtimes but not the game you want to actually play, or you take ESO and ZOS and accept that it's not the perfect package but you love it any way.
Not saying they are made the same way. They shouldn't be but atleast ZOS can learn from other mmorpgs.
And to show you guys what I mean with the bad customer support and ZOS barely communicating:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/344356/stuck-in-an-error-303-patcherror-unzipfail-repair-abort-invalid-memory-size-0-loop/p3
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Emothic✭✭✭✭I do know the difference between a patch and a hot fix and if your factual information is saying that WoW has less players on their servers then maybe you are the one who has to check real facts
No you don't, because a patch and a hot fix is the samething. We're talking about SERVER MAINTENANCE. That's is what's happening right now a SERVER MAINTENANCE, not a patch/hotfix. Damn don't know how many times I have to keep saying it.
Also world of warcraft has around 200+ realms for their North American/Central American servers. Each realm can be maintained seperatly and get be shutdown at seperate times for maintenance. ESO has mega-servers, they don't have actual realms like WoW does, and so the entire server needs to be taken down in order to maintain it. The difference goes even further. A WoW realm may only allow 5,000 players in at one time. While an ESO server has no restricting and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of players can be in at one time, which is why there are major loading screen issues in the game.
So since WoWs realms have only a small amount of players in during a week, compared to that of ESO, it takes less time to maintain them then it does for ESO.
Besides the more I talk about this the more pointless it is. I don't see how you cannot go 1 - 3 hours without playing ESO over a maintenance that happens once a week.
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✭✭No one sane of mind would argue ZOS has good customer support or that they are good at communicating with the community. While serious these issues are not related in any way to Maintenance scheduled or otherwise.
Also, these issues do not seem to be ZOS issues, but Zenimax/Bethesda Softworks organizational issues."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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VeenixO✭✭I do know the difference between a patch and a hot fix and if your factual information is saying that WoW has less players on their servers then maybe you are the one who has to check real facts
No you don't, because a patch and a hot fix is the samething. We're talking about SERVER MAINTENANCE. That's is what's happening right now a SERVER MAINTENANCE, not a patch/hotfix. Damn don't know how many times I have to keep saying it.
Also world of warcraft has around 200+ realms for their North American/Central American servers. Each realm can be maintained seperatly and get be shutdown at seperate times for maintenance. ESO has mega-servers, they don't have actual realms like WoW does, and so the entire server needs to be taken down in order to maintain it. The difference goes even further. A WoW realm may only allow 5,000 players in at one time. While an ESO server has no restricting and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of players can be in at one time, which is why there are major loading screen issues in the game.
So since WoWs realms have only a small amount of players in during a week, compared to that of ESO, it takes less time to maintain them then it does for ESO.
Besides the more I talk about this the more pointless it is. I don't see how you cannot go 1 - 3 hours without playing ESO over a maintenance that happens once a week.
In this one and a half week I have already seen the maintenance message (or another issue (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/344356/stuck-in-an-error-303-patcherror-unzipfail-repair-abort-invalid-memory-size-0-loop/p3) 3 times... If you think that is normal well sorry but I don't...0 -
Aluiries✭✭✭I do know the difference between a patch and a hot fix and if your factual information is saying that WoW has less players on their servers then maybe you are the one who has to check real facts
No you don't, because a patch and a hot fix is the samething. We're talking about SERVER MAINTENANCE. That's is what's happening right now a SERVER MAINTENANCE, not a patch/hotfix. Damn don't know how many times I have to keep saying it.
Also world of warcraft has around 200+ realms for their North American/Central American servers. Each realm can be maintained seperatly and get be shutdown at seperate times for maintenance. ESO has mega-servers, they don't have actual realms like WoW does, and so the entire server needs to be taken down in order to maintain it. The difference goes even further. A WoW realm may only allow 5,000 players in at one time. While an ESO server has no restricting and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of players can be in at one time, which is why there are major loading screen issues in the game.
So since WoWs realms have only a small amount of players in during a week, compared to that of ESO, it takes less time to maintain them then it does for ESO.
Besides the more I talk about this the more pointless it is. I don't see how you cannot go 1 - 3 hours without playing ESO over a maintenance that happens once a week.
While I agree with each of your points please note that this isn't Server Maintenance.
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RQQST3RSoul Shriven"Starting on Tuesday, July 5 2016, the maintenance times for the PC/Mac North American megaserver has changed. It will now begin at 4:00 AM EDT/8:00 AM GMT. We've have updated the first post in this thread, accordingly."
Or as its known to us in Australia as PRIME TIME - 6pm Thanks again for moving maintenance so you could screw us just that little bit moreWe've both said a lot of things you're going to regret0 -
VeenixO✭✭I do know the difference between a patch and a hot fix and if your factual information is saying that WoW has less players on their servers then maybe you are the one who has to check real facts
No you don't, because a patch and a hot fix is the samething. We're talking about SERVER MAINTENANCE. That's is what's happening right now a SERVER MAINTENANCE, not a patch/hotfix. Damn don't know how many times I have to keep saying it.
Also world of warcraft has around 200+ realms for their North American/Central American servers. Each realm can be maintained seperatly and get be shutdown at seperate times for maintenance. ESO has mega-servers, they don't have actual realms like WoW does, and so the entire server needs to be taken down in order to maintain it. The difference goes even further. A WoW realm may only allow 5,000 players in at one time. While an ESO server has no restricting and tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of players can be in at one time, which is why there are major loading screen issues in the game.
So since WoWs realms have only a small amount of players in during a week, compared to that of ESO, it takes less time to maintain them then it does for ESO.
Besides the more I talk about this the more pointless it is. I don't see how you cannot go 1 - 3 hours without playing ESO over a maintenance that happens once a week.
While I agree with each of your points please note that this isn't Server Maintenance.
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And then Emothic says I have to check my facts... gg m8 xD0 -
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✭✭✭I think it's way better to have maint during which they might(or might not) actually fix something than be stuck with broken game.
I definitely agree they shouldn't have released this so early, BGs for sure should've undergone a few more months of thorough testing, but that's a different story. There is scheduled maint every Monday, today's just got postponed because holiday. Last week did have 2 but that's because of the new op patch, from what I understand it's pretty normal for MMOs.0 -
Darcwolf✭✭✭The maintenances that your are refering too only happens once a week unless a critical issue has happen. These maintenances are actually server maintenances. They are not to fix any in game problem such as glitches or bugs. These are hardware maintenances that enable to keep the servers up and runing without any major issue. With out these maintenances the servers will crash and can stay down for days/weeks if not properly maintained. Every MMO does this because of the large amount of players they have on a single server frame. .
WRONG! Go play GW2 for a year and tell me how often servers go down for maintenance. And for someone like me who works swing shift I guess I'm just screwed, I get home from work, workout, eat dinner, shower. Sit down to play, oh great maintenance again!Edited by Darcwolf on May 30, 2017 9:01AM2 -
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✭✭I agree with the fact the maintenance times suck balls, but at the beginning of the game they had separate starting times for NA en EU. At some point they had a meeting and some genius probably suggested that it would save money if they did maintenance at the same time for NA and EU.
That's what we call bad costumer service and "good chart-management".
Yeah those "Staggered" service times are what got me playing both servers. I've been playing NA and EU ever since. When NA went down, I'd jump to EU, when EU was down I could play NA. Now that they both just go down at the same time for the same amount of time it's PURE Downtime, or as I like to call it? Bedtime!
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You linked to a thread page with 3 replies from Gina, followed by a reply on each of the next three pages and them announcing they'd deployed a fix for that issue and you say they're not communicating.
As I said, just because they're the same genre doesn't meant they made the same way at all.Never noticed the WoW servers being down for a hotfix and I played i A LOT.
And I know ESO and WoW are different but they are both mmorpgs.
That's like asking why a Mazda M3 can't beat a Mclaren F1's time on a track day, they're both cars right?
There is a whole list of reasons why ESO is not WoW and ZOS is not Blizzard. If Blizzard and WoW is so perfect why are you here again? Because you love ESO right? Sadly part of ESO is the downtimes, because that's how this game is.
So you either take WoW and Blizzard and their no downtimes but not the game you want to actually play, or you take ESO and ZOS and accept that it's not the perfect package but you love it any way.
Not saying they are made the same way. They shouldn't be but atleast ZOS can learn from other mmorpgs.
And to show you guys what I mean with the bad customer support and ZOS barely communicating:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/344356/stuck-in-an-error-303-patcherror-unzipfail-repair-abort-invalid-memory-size-0-loop/p3
You know how many threads on here don't get a single answer? You could have at least linked one of them!
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iarnold✭✭To be honest, I wouldn't mind it as much if I wasn't in Australia, and it wasn't prime time during the week where all you wanna do it play some elder scrolls after work
I can understand the servers need maintenance, but it feels like it takes too many hours just for a routine check up. For the money they charge to ESO Plus members, I guess they don't run a proper show if it takes that long even when there are no crashes to fix.2 -
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VeenixO✭✭
You linked to a thread page with 3 replies from Gina, followed by a reply on each of the next three pages and them announcing they'd deployed a fix for that issue and you say they're not communicating.
As I said, just because they're the same genre doesn't meant they made the same way at all.Never noticed the WoW servers being down for a hotfix and I played i A LOT.
And I know ESO and WoW are different but they are both mmorpgs.
That's like asking why a Mazda M3 can't beat a Mclaren F1's time on a track day, they're both cars right?
There is a whole list of reasons why ESO is not WoW and ZOS is not Blizzard. If Blizzard and WoW is so perfect why are you here again? Because you love ESO right? Sadly part of ESO is the downtimes, because that's how this game is.
So you either take WoW and Blizzard and their no downtimes but not the game you want to actually play, or you take ESO and ZOS and accept that it's not the perfect package but you love it any way.
Not saying they are made the same way. They shouldn't be but atleast ZOS can learn from other mmorpgs.
And to show you guys what I mean with the bad customer support and ZOS barely communicating:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/344356/stuck-in-an-error-303-patcherror-unzipfail-repair-abort-invalid-memory-size-0-loop/p3
You know how many threads on here don't get a single answer? You could have at least linked one of them!
The thread page I linked was about a problem (which they apprently also had a few years ago). Took them 2-3 days to fix the problem (which is strange if they already had the same problem once). Gina ONLY replied 3 times... Didn't see anything on ESO twitter about the problem or any good updates about how the fixing of the problem was going. So I think that this is one of the best examples out there to show how bad the communication is and how bad ZOS is at solving a problem asap (again think about the fact that they had the same problem before... if it was something new then I would understand...)
A lot of people also complain on there about ZOS and their bad communication. Also about that it was something typical for ZOS to have small fixes and updates which don't even fix real issues and those small updates mostly bring up even more problems (read the replies on the thread yourself to see who said it if you want to know).
So yeah I do think that is the perfect example...1 -
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭So I have been playing this game for about a week and a half and already had 3 times maintenance...
I think this is way too much! Instead of making crappy updates maybe they can first test things out on the test server, patch that stuff and after a month or so upload the update to the real servers. Then a week or two after the real update they can patch the issues that appear on the real server and then focus on the next real update.
It is so annoying that there is so much maintenance... create a good patch or test it first on test servers on don't make updates at all... it is as simple as that... Take an example of other mmorpgs like WoW... Seriously I love this game but the company behind it sucks. Sometimes I wish Blizzard would buy this game, atleast then we would have a normal update and maintenance routine and some good customer service (which also sucks atm... 2-3 days to fix a problem that already popped up a few years ago and not even letting the players know how things are going is just crazy..)
Sorry if it seems like I am whining atm but this really is a big issue. I really hope this will change so that players can just play the game like they should instead of having 2-3 times maintenance in a week...
What do you guys think about this?
Just wondering if you were on the PTS to help test, and if you were did you find all the problems.
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