[Hodor] World First Veteran + Veteran HM Halls of Fabrication!

pattyLtd · May 2017

Congrats, very well done.

I understand they spend many hours on PTS and they are not denying that. I really don't get the need to go on a pity party because you can't be world first anymore but i guess i'm the oddball on that one which is fine.

Are any of you slightly dissappointed that you were able to do it this fast, i mean what you gonna do now?

sebban · May 2017

Liofa wrote: »

Note : Second guild to complete the trial started around the same time with Hodor . They completed it twice before that group did their first . I think that should make things clear .

We hadn't started when hodor got their first kill since we had people coming home from work, etc. But even if we started at the same time, hodor would be #1 since our run took much longer.

SorataArisugawa · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

So you're practically saying that your Guild is the best and even if you guys didn't had the monitor turned on you guys will still have got it first?

I really hope your whole guild is not as cocky as you are.

They aren't no worries. I'm just bored atm so I go on the forum to trigger people.

Bored of your own foolishness? I mean, what did you expect to happen if you try your best to beat the raid already on PTS? It is not rocket science what will happen at live server. I am sooooooooooooo sorry, that you don't have to do anything else now. Serves you right! And by the way: Guys who raided at the PTS mean nothing. Keep your World First for you. How low for a competive Raider. I am glad, that the this game doesn't make the mistake to listen to guys like you anymore. If Raiding is such a joke, than they should not waist resources there. Make it all casual if the raiders can't even be fair to themself!

Wing · May 2017

Biro123 wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Guess who hasn't read the whole thread.

oh sorry, 1 of those Templars was dps -_- such a difference

saw guild bashing and decided to skip 8 pages of that noise.

Alcast · May 2017

mandricus wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Nope.

2 DK Tanks
2 Templar Healers
7 Sorc DPS
1 MagPlar, BUT, carried by one of the best PVE players around (Alcast). One of the few that has 2 sharpened moondancer swords, an equip that may put his MagPlar on-par or at least not too far from what a MagSorc can achieve with an equip a lot easier to obtain and a much easier rotation. So it does not really count, Alcast is one of the few that could have completed the run with any build / any class, achieving optimal results anyway.

#Balance.

Magplar DD here

Most people already played MagSorc in homestead. Also on 2nd clear we had a StamDK and a MagDK in our group.

I ran maelstrom Shock staff precise and maelstrom Fire staff precise with:
Valkyn (Heavy divine, Light Well fitted)
3x Moondancer
5x Secret set

I am like thousand miles away from Best in Slot >.> At the moment on PTS Survival > DPS.

xblackroxe · May 2017

SorataArisugawa wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

So you're practically saying that your Guild is the best and even if you guys didn't had the monitor turned on you guys will still have got it first?

I really hope your whole guild is not as cocky as you are.

They aren't no worries. I'm just bored atm so I go on the forum to trigger people.

Bored of your own foolishness? I mean, what did you expect to happen if you try your best to beat the raid already on PTS? It is not rocket science what will happen at live server. I am sooooooooooooo sorry, that you don't have to do anything else now. Serves you right! And by the way: Guys who raided at the PTS mean nothing. Keep your World First for you. How low for a competive Raider. I am glad, that the this game doesn't make the mistake to listen to guys like you anymore. If Raiding is such a joke, than they should not waist resources there. Make it all casual if the raiders can't even be fair to themself!

I'm sorry I was actually talking about my day. Didn't learn anything new @uni so I got bored. There are actually good players that also have a real life. Right? Totally unexpected. I'm just sorry that you know nothing about either (having a rl and being a good player just to be clear).

Baddies always gonna find reasons why stuff better players did doesn't count. Nw after over a year of always being on the top you get used to it. Not that you'd have any experience with that.

Bigevilpeter · May 2017

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

xblackroxe · May 2017

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

How often does this have to be repeated? I swear I could post this every 2 comment here and ppl still would QQ about this. It was the first day and we started as soon as servers went online. People just went with what they new best and since that was sorc for the last few months thats what almost everyone went with.

If you wann see the actual balance maybe give us a week or two so we have actually time to get back into other classes to test without 500ping pts.

kylewwefan · May 2017

Congrats! You guys are inspirational!

I mostly get in groups that struggle on nMoL. Lol!

Jacozilla · May 2017

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

DK, DK, DK tanks everywhere. Templar, Templar, Templar healers everywhere.

DK tank and Templar healers were/are the meta and only way to go for competitive endgame, therefore should be nerfed just like sorc as dps favorite.

mandricus · May 2017

Jacozilla wrote: »

DK, DK, DK tanks everywhere. Templar, Templar, Templar healers everywhere.

DK tank and Templar healers were/are the meta and only way to go for competitive endgame, therefore should be nerfed just like sorc as dps favorite.

as a matter of fact, they were nerfed. Templars pretty much to the ground. Sure they will be still viable both as healers and as DPS, but they took a huge hit this patch, Templars in particular for their survivability and healing capabilities, having not major mending anymore and so having less self heal from puncturing sweep / BOL on magplar and Vigor / Repentance on stamplar.

Can't say much about DKs as I don't know the class well enough, but given the feedback on PTS tank DKs will struggle a lot more than before in term of resource management. Sure they will still be viable, but for sure they took a hit too.

On the other hand, Sorcs were barely affected by last patch. Pirate Skeleton was fixed (a broken set that was used in PvP coupled with shields), and then they just had a slight damage nerf only at the last iteration, after 6 weeks of complaints on the PTS section by all non-sorcs.

mandricus · May 2017

Alcast wrote: »

I ran maelstrom Shock staff precise and maelstrom Fire staff precise with:
Valkyn (Heavy divine, Light Well fitted)
3x Moondancer
5x Secret set

I am like thousand miles away from Best in Slot >.> At the moment on PTS Survival > DPS.

Thank you for clarifying this.
Secret set means that the build you are using it's not the one you published on your website (https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/)? That's quite interesting to know

Prive · May 2017

mandricus wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

I ran maelstrom Shock staff precise and maelstrom Fire staff precise with:
Valkyn (Heavy divine, Light Well fitted)
3x Moondancer
5x Secret set

I am like thousand miles away from Best in Slot >.> At the moment on PTS Survival > DPS.

Thank you for clarifying this.
Secret set means that the build you are using it's not the one you published on your website (https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-build-pve/)? That's quite interesting to know

I promise you would laugh if you know what he was running XD

sebban · May 2017

Alcast wrote: »

5x Secret set

Seducer?

Edziu · May 2017

Jacozilla wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

DK, DK, DK tanks everywhere. Templar, Templar, Templar healers everywhere.

DK tank and Templar healers were/are the meta and only way to go for competitive endgame, therefore should be nerfed just like sorc as dps favorite.

NB, NB, NB as any role nowhere!
NB tank and NB healere in mete never! NB dps in meta only once and nonstop NB is only nothing for competetive endgame, therefore they should be buffed just like sorc before to be finally viable as now sorc next patch in row is just meta and isnt on bottom on the way

NiclasFridholm · May 2017

sebban wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

5x Secret set

Seducer?

Kagrenac and rezzplar lol!?

mandricus · May 2017

Prive wrote: »

I promise you would laugh if you know what he was running XD

As he said at the moment on PTS Survival > DPS, probably a safe bet could be TBS (thinking about the 1st perk.... it is a set that gives you a little more survaivability without sacrifying too much damage in well organized groups with Thief + Shadow mundus and Aggressive Horn always up).
But this would be too obvious, so it must be something different

BigBadVolk · May 2017

Also forgot to GZ so Gz guys for first clear

and people should realize that ESO trials are not WoW raids those take more then 4 hours first time with 24+ people and ours only house 12 people so it means we will soon need 24+ raids or smth like that

Also Gl for the rest of the achievments guys

edit: also Heroic (veteran) raid clears are fast even in WoW mythical is a whole different story

Izaki · May 2017

SASQUATCH0 wrote: »

Soooo what you're telling me is this trial is a cake walk... nice

Its a "cake walk" if you've spent a month raiding everyday for 6+ hours a day on the PTS. Which is what Hodor did. "Oh but vMoL took longer" of course it did, the game was completely different back then with other trials being VR14.

Gratz guys awesome work!

Biro123 · May 2017

Wing wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Guess who hasn't read the whole thread.

oh sorry, 1 of those Templars was dps -_- such a difference

saw guild bashing and decided to skip 8 pages of that noise.

You missed the part that mentioned that their team was the same team used through the PTS - BEFORE the sorc pet-nerf was applied, and that they fully expect other group compositions to be competitive going forwards....

Jonno · May 2017

Edziu wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

DK, DK, DK tanks everywhere. Templar, Templar, Templar healers everywhere.

DK tank and Templar healers were/are the meta and only way to go for competitive endgame, therefore should be nerfed just like sorc as dps favorite.

NB, NB, NB as any role nowhere!
NB tank and NB healere in mete never! NB dps in meta only once and nonstop NB is only nothing for competetive endgame, therefore they should be buffed just like sorc before to be finally viable as now sorc next patch in row is just meta and isnt on bottom on the way

Funny how there are 3 NB on leaderboards

Robvenom · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Get over yourself.

You think getting a world first after spending god knows how many hours on the PTR is an accomplishment? Please.

Well done on making yourself and your guild look like a bunch of tossers.

Eweroun · May 2017

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

sebban wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

5x Secret set

Seducer?

Kagrenac and rezzplar lol!?

julianos...

Edziu · May 2017

Jonno wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sorcs, Sorcs, Sorcs everywhere all dps, 2 templar healers one DK tank and one stamina templar probably for the light skill that does minor fracture and breach.
Sorc Dps is the only way to go now.

DK, DK, DK tanks everywhere. Templar, Templar, Templar healers everywhere.

DK tank and Templar healers were/are the meta and only way to go for competitive endgame, therefore should be nerfed just like sorc as dps favorite.

NB, NB, NB as any role nowhere!
NB tank and NB healere in mete never! NB dps in meta only once and nonstop NB is only nothing for competetive endgame, therefore they should be buffed just like sorc before to be finally viable as now sorc next patch in row is just meta and isnt on bottom on the way

Funny how there are 3 NB on leaderboards

3NB on max 33 places on trial and on the worst score for now in same 1 group...I just see those 3 nb with that low score group was a problem why this score was that low, maybe pulled by group to have done this trial or something

and still only thing what I see from nb on those score they are just lower group effectiveness becuse nb in overall is the worst class to endgame content

and yes..nb will be always on some leaderboards like we had before this patch vMoL...for around 500 ranked places was event around 50 NB's! thats huge amount of them for 1 harder trial

at this moment I have seen nb are only on this new trial leaderboard while on every other triall still no nb..maybe its still just start of leaderboards but its sad how nb is comming as last class on this because of their lack to everything in group content

Prive · May 2017

Robvenom wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Get over yourself.

You think getting a world first after spending god knows how many hours on the PTR is an accomplishment? Please.

Well done on making yourself and your guild look like a bunch of tossers.

Hi @Robvenom ,

I'd like a little more QQ pls. having a blast reading trough all this.

peak99 · May 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Magplar DD here
Most people already played MagSorc in homestead. Also on 2nd clear we had a StamDK and a MagDK in our group.

I ran maelstrom Shock staff precise and maelstrom Fire staff precise with:
Valkyn (Heavy divine, Light Well fitted)
3x Moondancer
5x Secret set

I am like thousand miles away from Best in Slot >.> At the moment on PTS Survival > DPS.

Secret Set = Kag's for the OP templar rezzes.

Great job to ur raid team.

jlboozer · May 2017

Not fair since Trial was on PTS and half the population(consoles) can't even play it yet. Worlds first means nothing in this game until everybody has a fair shot imo...Trials shouldn't be on PTS and Morrowind should be released the same day for all platforms for worlds first to actually mean anything!

Elrosahir · May 2017

Liofa wrote: »

Amazing ! Well deserved after countless hours of practice . For those who think trial is easy , no , it is not . Most people will struggle even in normal mode . Btw , don't bother with haters . As many said , best raiding guilds already got invited to PTS with their full team and looking at leaderboards in PTS , it was so clear that other guilds didn't had a chance against Hodor . There was competition and Hodor won . Deal with it . Hodor deserves every bit of this achievement . Congratz !

Note : Second guild to complete the trial started around the same time with Hodor . They completed it twice before that group did their first . I think that should make things clear .

good lie @Liofa, we started at 19pm. Not 16pm with 24 people

Prive · May 2017

jlboozer wrote: »

Not fair since Trial was on PTS and half the population(consoles) can't even play it yet. Worlds first means nothing in this game until everybody has a fair shot imo...Trials shouldn't be on PTS and Morrowind should be released the same day for all platforms for worlds first to actually mean anything!

I fully agree with you that the release should be the same for all platforms. Insanely pathetic planning from ZOS. And that utterly crap excuse they came up with triggered even more people I guess.

With that said; time to buy a pc

You can't do trials on console anyways, kappa. (also ZOS at his finest)

OrphanHelgen · May 2017

jlboozer wrote: »

Not fair since Trial was on PTS and half the population(consoles) can't even play it yet. Worlds first means nothing in this game until everybody has a fair shot imo...Trials shouldn't be on PTS and Morrowind should be released the same day for all platforms for worlds first to actually mean anything!

It's not a lie tho, it is world first, if it's fair or not to console players. All though if everyone started equally, I'm sure we would hear stuff like "disconnects" and "no addons" etc XD