[Hodor] World First Veteran + Veteran HM Halls of Fabrication!

FloppyTouch · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

Other then console that is not on the pts and does not even get to try for 2 weeks you know 2/3 of the player base

May I refer you to the last paragraph of the post you quoted:

"Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome"

Wat

Kay1 · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

xblackroxe · May 2017

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Vaoh · May 2017

Love Wizard wrote: »

Seriously, all of you who complain about class diversity, understand this. We've been on the PTS for give or take six weeks, and Sorcerer was what yielded the best DPS results there as the nerfs we saw today in the patch notes was NOT present on the PTS. Also, keep in mind most of us has been playing sorcerer on the live for abit now as it was without doubt the best DPS class, but with the changes we see TODAY in the patch notes, things are DIFFERENT. But we need time to adjust, we can't just log on another class we haven't played for months and go for a trial of this calibre and expect to faceroll it. Give this patch some days, even weeks and if things haven't changed by then, then you're entitled to QQ about class diversity, BUT NOT UNTIL THAT. I know we all love giving ZoS ***, but please for the love of god, don't just hate on them because you're incapable of understanding how metas work and change.

^^^

Kay1 · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

xblackroxe · May 2017

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

Buffler · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

Mate, you need to be quiet as now you are making Hodor seem egotistical to the the max.

reesenorman · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Rekt. Savage but true.

xblackroxe · May 2017

Buffler wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

Mate, you need to be quiet as now you are making Hodor seem egotistical to the the max.

No I make myself seem full of myself not my guild.

ArchMikem · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

So then you're basically saying the Hodor Guild would have been the first to complete it regardless of who got to run the Trial and when. If there's no competition, no risk, then there's no weight to the accomplishment. When the outcome can't be changed, then it becomes meaningless.

Kay1 · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

So you're practically saying that your Guild is the best and even if you guys didn't had the monitor turned on you guys will still have got it first?

I really hope your whole guild is not as cocky as you are.

xblackroxe · May 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

So then you're basically saying the Hodor Guild would have been the first to complete it regardless of who got to run the Trial and when. If there's no competition, no risk, then there's no weight to the accomplishment. When the outcome can't be changed, then it becomes meaningless.

I never said this clear was an accomplishment. Sure we worked for it but if the trial gets cleared in a few hours by 3 guilds 2 of them with hm then it was not hard to begin with. But we are still the ones that cleared it first tho.

xblackroxe · May 2017

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

So you're practically saying that your Guild is the best and even if you guys didn't had the monitor turned on you guys will still have got it first?

I really hope your whole guild is not as cocky as you are.

They aren't no worries. I'm just bored atm so I go on the forum to trigger people.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2017

Good grief with the drama . Can't people just say congrats an not trash a guild for completing a trial . Who cares if they practiced on pts . That's what end game PVE guilds do . A lot of those guys do a lot to help players here .

Kay1 · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

First yes, after 60 tries in the PTS.

It's so sad to see this, in others games being World first takes some time because no one knows anything, in ESO you just have to download the PTS.

We also didn't know nothing the first time we cleared it on pts (also world first in both normal and hm may I add).

I just don't see your point almost all the people that do raid had their invites and most of the other good guilds ran hof often on pts.

Also its cute how people really think that everyone going into the trial blind now would have changed anything on the outcome.

You don't see my point?

I don't know you don't need to be a genius to understand it, those guys did world first but after a lot of tries in the PTS leaving others people who couldn't get on the private PTS without a chance, you think there's no difference then tell me a single game where a raid guild clear a new trial in the hardest mode 4h after release.

I wish this *** of letting people do the Trial in the PTS wasn't a thing.

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

Please, the PC community and 100 people is not the whole raiding community.

There's thousands of raiding guilds in both console and PC, I can see that you are in the guild itself so you probably know that your guild have a lot of fans from consoles, think about the unfairness none of them can even try it before release your guild had the chance of doing it a lot of times it's not even a real world first because you guys completed it on the PTS already that's how sad it is (I'm talking about Zos decision of adding the Trial to PTS).

Wouldn't you agree for a closed trial closed until maybe Friday 9th June? No PTS test and released at the same time from everyone?

I never said its a fair fight. All I'm saying is that having a blind trial for everyone wouldn't have changed anything on the outcome.

Also it rather split consoles and pc for such things as they play different and with all the server problems comparing those makes no sense anyways.

So you're practically saying that your Guild is the best and even if you guys didn't had the monitor turned on you guys will still have got it first?

I really hope your whole guild is not as cocky as you are.

They aren't no worries. I'm just bored atm so I go on the forum to trigger people.

You're not triggering anyone to be honest I'm a PvP player and the only Trial I've done was vMol because I wanted the skin I'm just the type of guy who thinks about everyone.

You're just making your guild looks bad

Turelus · May 2017

Well this thread sure became interesting.

I was surprised at first about how many people seemed shocked it was done, but then I forget that all the information about it being cleared already was probably behind the NDA or that many didn't follow those who spoke about it openly.

I am so/so with the debate, I can understand some peoples frustrations and it does seem a little unfair on newer guilds who want to be a competitive challenge when they're not given access but the current rulers are.

This just goes back to my complaints about ZOS and their professionalism though. I've said it before and will say it again, if you're playing ESO for leaderboard and world firsts you're really not playing the best game for it, there are other games out there which do it better and in a more fair environment.

Please don't let that take anything away from what HODOR did though, lot of respect for you all for your skill, dedication and time you all put in.

Robvenom · May 2017

fericirea wrote: »

The real measure is which guild who didn't practice during closed beta will down vet and vet HM first.

Quoted for truth.

ArgoCye · May 2017

Gratz. Also shows that the people qqing about the new CP changes etc. screwing PVE is a bit of nonesense.

Wing · May 2017

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Mondini · May 2017

Please don't post a video telling people how to do the trial. Most of the fun is figuring it out yourself.
Now i'll get to log on and listen to my raidlead talk about how much they don't like alcast while simultaneously repeating everything from his "how to HOF" video. Ugh. Figuring the mechanics is the whole point of the trial.
GG on the achieve tho.

Biro123 · May 2017

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Guess who hasn't read the whole thread.

FloppyTouch · May 2017

Mondini wrote: »

Please don't post a video telling people how to do the trial. Most of the fun is figuring it out yourself.
Now i'll get to log on and listen to my raidlead talk about how much they don't like alcast while simultaneously repeating everything from his "how to HOF" video. Ugh. Figuring the mechanics is the whole point of the trial.
GG on the achieve tho.

Agreed would be great if no one made any video so console could figure it out.

That's not going to happen though they need those "likes" on there videos

xblackroxe · May 2017

Mondini wrote: »

Please don't post a video telling people how to do the trial. Most of the fun is figuring it out yourself.
Now i'll get to log on and listen to my raidlead talk about how much they don't like alcast while simultaneously repeating everything from his "how to HOF" video. Ugh. Figuring the mechanics is the whole point of the trial.
GG on the achieve tho.

You know people just can choose to not watch a video. There is nothing mysterious that forces you to watch.

Nonetheless don't worry no videos are going out till we got all the achievements probably.

Love Wizard · May 2017

BigBadVolk wrote: »

Love Wizard wrote: »

GDOFWR420 wrote: »

Now do it with less sorcs. But good job.

We will, give it some time

So does it mean you're gonna upgrade you're build and return as an almighty NB )))))))))

Yes, starting to test and experiment today. Build will be updated soon

anitajoneb17_ESO · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

I do see your point. I just don't agree. The people that had a chance to beat us were on pts and the ones that weren't don't need to kid themselves with the thought of actually having a chance.

As pretentious as it may sound, that's actually true. Hodor has proven over and over again to be the best guild around, only challenged every now and then by a few other guilds (like Beyond Infinity for vMoL HM 1st clear).
Would Hodor have been World 1st without PTS training ? I believe they would, but noone will ever know for sure.
That said, World 1st isn't the one and only challenge there. Guilds who think they can beat them : go try. Leadersboards are awaiting you. And so are casuals like me who enjoy watching the competition. Because it's fun and because, to a certain extent, we admire you. It's like watching the Olympics ;-)

Liofa · May 2017

Amazing ! Well deserved after countless hours of practice . For those who think trial is easy , no , it is not . Most people will struggle even in normal mode . Btw , don't bother with haters . As many said , best raiding guilds already got invited to PTS with their full team and looking at leaderboards in PTS , it was so clear that other guilds didn't had a chance against Hodor . There was competition and Hodor won . Deal with it . Hodor deserves every bit of this achievement . Congratz !

Note : Second guild to complete the trial started around the same time with Hodor . They completed it twice before that group did their first . I think that should make things clear .

Elvenpath · May 2017

No mather what, PTS, pre-order, bla bla, if any fresh content trial can be cleared in few hours after release, this is company's fault not the gamers who plays and complete it. Other MMOs giving raid access on PTS aswell, but on live, they are changing tons of things. Beside all of this, thats the why they are raising item levels on every big content which is include trial/raid etc.

Unfortunately in ESO, itemization system broke af.

Why? You wanting to wear a best in slot items always, period. But RNG system dosen't allow this. Because impossible RNG trait system. If you raise item level cap on ESO most players will be frustrated and probably leave game because even dungeon sets like BSW/Ebon/Lich taking tons of time to farm with proper trait. Can't even think about to vMA weapons aswell for casual players.

TL;DR

1) ZOS should balance end-game PVE.
2) Token system for raise item levels, period.
3) And for the love of god, just balance this RNG ***. It's not even RNG. If someone trying to get sharpened weapon vMA for hundred runs, its frustrating not gaming anymore. Instead of doing it this, they will find another game and invest their time.
4) GZ, to hodor.

Edit: typo

Jacozilla · May 2017

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

100% of the tanks are DKs.
100% of the healers are Templars.

If by your logic Sorcs should not be allowed to be top dps class when they clearly can't compete at all as tanks or healers, why aren't you asking for Dk tank and Templar healer nerfs?

Clearly you have a hate hard on against sorcs, and don't see the hypocrisy of saying there is #balance issue when other classes are clear favorites in their role.

If you want sorcs nerfed even more in the one role they have left - as dps - while,other classes totally own tank and healer roles, then it ought to be fair to call for more dk and Templar nerfs while asking for sorc buffs to make endgame sorc tanks and endgame sorc healers.

mandricus · May 2017

Wing wrote: »

is that:

-2 DK tanks
-3 Templar heals
-. . .7! sorc DPS!?

#balance

Nope.

2 DK Tanks
2 Templar Healers
7 Sorc DPS
1 MagPlar, BUT, carried by one of the best PVE players around (Alcast). One of the few that has 2 sharpened moondancer swords, an equip that may put his MagPlar on-par or at least not too far from what a MagSorc can achieve with an equip a lot easier to obtain and a much easier rotation. So it does not really count, Alcast is one of the few that could have completed the run with any build / any class, achieving optimal results anyway.

#Balance.

Mondini · May 2017

xblackroxe wrote: »

You know people just can choose to not watch a video. There is nothing mysterious that forces you to watch.

Nonetheless don't worry no videos are going out till we got all the achievements probably.

I don't watch any of the videos, ever. There is no need imo. But it's a bit annoying when I say " I think this will be the meta" or "I think this is the mechanic" only to be shot down. Then when a video or guide is released they act like a know it all. It's annoying, hope you can understand lol. Feel free to take your time on that last achieve.