Saved Builds

Avalon · May 2017

Was wondering if anyone else likes the idea of saved builds. The basic idea would be that players could earn, or buy a specialized Soul Gem or something that could store the current character setup (skills, morphs, etc). If the player has multiples, they could use the gem (think memento or something, infinite uses) to change to the build stored in it, probably with a 30 second cast time or something. But, would allow people to change builds more easily while in a dungeon, etc where it might be useful to swap out due to group's healer or tank dropping at last fight, or other situations. Just an idea

KeiruNicrom · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

A decent idea though the use of an item is not needed. A menu option in the inventory window similar to wykkids outfitter would suffice. Another addon that console plebs desire. Poor inferior souls

idk · May 2017

On PC we can change our skills and armor with the push of a button.

It would be nice to do the same with CP but even if an add on could do it the process might be slow since it would need to remove all CP allocated then place it again even if only 50 points were being changed.

theher0not · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

How I would want to see this is something like this: A new NPC allows you to buy extra skill tabs for a one time gold purchase, once you have bought a new tab you can swap to it as long as you are out of combat. Clicking the button to swap to another tab will reveal you and initiate a cast that will take a few seconds,(taking any damage or entering combat will interupt the cast).

Every tab will allow you to have a different CP, AP and SP setup. And only one of them will be active at once.

ADarklore · May 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

On PC we can change our skills and armor with the push of a button.

It would be nice to do the same with CP but even if an add on could do it the process might be slow since it would need to remove all CP allocated then place it again even if only 50 points were being changed.

Yep, gotta love PC Addons... currently I'm using AlphaGear Lives (formerly AlphaGear), previously used DressingRoom; sadly, both seem to be currently 'unsupported' and it would be nice if another addon author came in and created a new one or took over one of these two.

DMuehlhausen · May 2017

I'm only here because they said there would be cake and pizza

There are Add ons. If your on console well I sorry join the master race.

The skills and stuff are impossible and CP simply cause there is a cost to them and you have to visit the shrines for Skills. I mean I guess maybe have another Store NPC that you can summon?

Avalon · May 2017

This is why I was saying that it was something they could ADD to the game, not that someone has made an add-on, or something that only handles gear, etc. Would it be something people would want ZOS to actually program into the game? I could see them adding tabs, and only the first is unlocked, 2nd-X tabs cost something. Maybe the 2nd one is a quest to unlock, 3rd costs some insane amount of gold, 3rd+ cost crowns? But, they would allow all things to be set differently, including skills and morphs.

Dubhliam · May 2017

I have another idea that could work, and I will explain it in my post below

Dressing Assistant.

You have mannequins on sale in Crown Store and/or for Writ Vouchers.
You can then put them in your home, and equip them with gear you have.
Then, you can activate the Dressing Assistant to promptly change your gear to one of the mannequin setups.

Btw. addons!

Potenza · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

I want the cake and pizza too!

ADarklore · May 2017

Avalon wrote: »

This is why I was saying that it was something they could ADD to the game, not that someone has made an add-on, or something that only handles gear, etc. Would it be something people would want ZOS to actually program into the game? I could see them adding tabs, and only the first is unlocked, 2nd-X tabs cost something. Maybe the 2nd one is a quest to unlock, 3rd costs some insane amount of gold, 3rd+ cost crowns? But, they would allow all things to be set differently, including skills and morphs.

It's interesting because for YEARS people have been asking for things to be added to the game that addons have offered, and as of now, the only thing we've gotten has been buff/debuff tracking coming with next update. I think the only reason these have even been added is because they are a more functional aspect of the game versus a 'convenience' that a build saver would offer. It's probably a fine line ZOS is walking... between creating 'new' content and taking something away from addon developers.

magictucktuck · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

like above person stated even if its just in the menu options, although the gem idea is cool, storing your build in it. and for small fortune you can buy multiple (in game gold).

ESO plus feature

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

Cool idea. That could save a lot of time....
Whenever I think that I will have to re-spec all my 350 skill points again when I will finish researching woodworking / blacksmithing / clothier traits to get back those skill points I putted in reduced research time passives it always makes me uneasy...

Kram8ion · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

Good idea especially for one toon players

Adernath · May 2017

I have another idea that could work, and I will explain it in my post below

First of all: If you want to change your gear/skills fast, get 'Dressing room' addon, I found that perfect for my needs to switch between healer/dd or PvP gear.

Second: Please no more items in my inventory!

Third: I fear that this might be implemented only for subscribers at best.

Fourth: However I like the idea to implement a 'dualspec' mechanism in regards of CPs, since the setups between pvp and pve can be quite different. Perhaps along with a continuation of the main story the player could be rewarded at the end with a dualspec option.

HeathenDeacon · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

YES PLEASE!!!!

Been thinking about something like this since i started palying again 3 months or so ago.
It would be a HUGE QOL improvement and definitely get me to play more.

the last MMo i played had similar build savers and it was a game changer QOL wise.
EVEN if you dont allow people to switch on the fly or in an instance i dont care, just allow me to save skill/ gear loadouts.
In that game you could bind /save everything including stlye/outfits.

It would be huge in this game though for me mainly for being able to go between pve and pvp without completely respecting my CP and skills, which i refuse to even do currently because its such a pain. i end up just pveing on one toon and pvping on another and leaving them setup that way...so in essence im playing about half as much as i might if i could save loadouts.

--Charge $10 for each in the crown store and make a killing ZOS.
In the other mmo i mentioned it was actually tied into housing, so i dont see why it couldnt work here, just make them nice furnishing items like 'wardrobes' or whatever.

Horowonnoe · May 2017

It already exists and is called "Dressing Room" the addon. There are others too, but that is one i have been using.

Avalon · May 2017

People keep mentioning the dressing room add-on...

First- No add-ons for console, so that isn't a solution, it is only available to the master race, and as such, not fair and equal, so I am not asking for those.

Second- Does dressing room allow you to spend all of your skill points one way, save the build, go and respec completely, putting points into other skills and morphs, then save that build, then go and do it again, save that build, etc; then, allow you to effortlessly swap between those builds? I am pretty sure ZOS would have killed that completely if it did. That is why I am asking for ZOS to implement this, as it would require serious thought and consideration on their part.

This thread is not asking for a way to simply swap out between skills already bought just to save times on slotting the other abilities. This is for people who actually want to change out between a crafter build (with all crafts bought, and very few other skills) that would go harvesting for an hour or so, then, swap to their DPS build (completely different set of skills bought), gets in the group, the group goes deep in the dungeon, but the healer gets disconnected for some reason, they wait, healer never comes back, so the player then swaps out to the Healer build they have saved (which has a completely different set of skills bought than either of the other 2), etc

I don't think Dressing Room will allow you to unlearn and learn different skills... not just talking changing your hotbar slotted skills, but actually unlearning them, and learning completely different skills.

Adernath · May 2017

I have another idea that could work, and I will explain it in my post below

Avalon wrote: »

I don't think Dressing Room will allow you to unlearn and learn different skills... not just talking changing your hotbar slotted skills, but actually unlearning them, and learning completely different skills.

No and it also does not change your cp points. It is simply a tool for convenience to switch fast your gear and abilities. If you play the game long enough, you will have enough skill and cp points where you just need to switch between several setups and are ready to fulfill your role.

However, sometimes wish I could change between two CP setups, so that I can have a PvE CP setup and a PVP CP setup. This kind of dualspec would be something I'd like to see. But I can also live without it, just using my addon.

ADarklore · May 2017

Not sure why so many are using Dressing Room over Alpha Gear Lives because AGL in my experience, and I've used both extensively, offers many more options and features.

Further, ZOS will not implement a feature which takes money away from items already in the Crown Store. Since 'Attribute' and 'Skill' tokens are sold, they will not create anything to offer those for free. They can make a lot more money from keeping the status quo than offering a 'build saver' that would be a one-time cost and cause them to lose money over time. Also, they will not offer anything that gives free CP reset either, just look at how they're handling Morrowind CP changes... they are giving people a ONE-TIME free reset, not a 'cost reduction' like they are with Skill Point resets.

Now consider that it's a very small group of people that want to hop between builds, and as others have said, once you gain enough SPs you can still have multiple build options.

So in short, ZOS isn't going to devote resources to creating something that really only appeals to a small minority while also costing them money in the long-term by negating items sold in the Crown Store.

JasonSilverSpring · May 2017

It is not perfect but pretty close: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info946-SuperStar-CharacterBuilder.html

You can build templates and automate the respec after resetting skills.

bareheiny · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

DCUO introduced this...Armouries.

You imprint your build (skills, gear, style) and save it. All characters get a free one, and if you want more you need to pay. Notably, for armouries to be useful you need at least two.

Anytime you weren't in combat, you could activate an armory.

I'd love this in ESO...then I could run an optimized DPS build for soloing and switch to a dedicated healer build when grouped.

As it stands, my CPs and such are mostly geared for healing....so my DPS is somewhat lacklustre. Which is ok I guess, as I only DPS whilst soloing.

ADarklore · May 2017

bareheiny wrote: »

DCUO introduced this...Armouries.

You imprint your build (skills, gear, style) and save it. All characters get a free one, and if you want more you need to pay. Notably, for armouries to be useful you need at least two.

Anytime you weren't in combat, you could activate an armory.

I'd love this in ESO...then I could run an optimized DPS build for soloing and switch to a dedicated healer build when grouped.

As it stands, my CPs and such are mostly geared for healing....so my DPS is somewhat lacklustre. Which is ok I guess, as I only DPS whilst soloing.

You are forgetting one major thing that I had previously noted... in regards to DCUO, they never charged real money for skill respecs, you paid in-game gold for it, so implementing armories didn't take any money away from their marketplace. However, with ESO, they DO offer both attribute and skill respecs for real money, so offering something like an armory would take money away from them over time.

Avalon · May 2017

ADarklore wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

DCUO introduced this...Armouries.

You imprint your build (skills, gear, style) and save it. All characters get a free one, and if you want more you need to pay. Notably, for armouries to be useful you need at least two.

Anytime you weren't in combat, you could activate an armory.

I'd love this in ESO...then I could run an optimized DPS build for soloing and switch to a dedicated healer build when grouped.

As it stands, my CPs and such are mostly geared for healing....so my DPS is somewhat lacklustre. Which is ok I guess, as I only DPS whilst soloing.

You are forgetting one major thing that I had previously noted... in regards to DCUO, they never charged real money for skill respecs, you paid in-game gold for it, so implementing armories didn't take any money away from their marketplace. However, with ESO, they DO offer both attribute and skill respecs for real money, so offering something like an armory would take money away from them over time.

The question is, though, how many people currently actually purchase the respec scrolls on the store vs how many they think they could get to purchase the Build-Save Tabs. Currently, players CAN ignore the store and just go pay gold to respec. This has to be done, over and over and over, if someone wants to do different builds, and as such, more people would use the in-game currency rather than spend real money, right?

However, with this, if they charged crowns for the tabs, and the tabs allow for complete save of builds including skills/morphs/CPs along with the simplicity of not having to make sure to buy every single ability and, oops, forgot something, now I have to redo it all... I'm pretty sure they would have guaranteed crown purchases that total more than what they are currently getting, because, despite being only available through crown purchases, it is a better way than constantly spending in-game currency (rather than purchasing the respec scrolls)

bareheiny · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

Avalon wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

DCUO introduced this...Armouries.

You imprint your build (skills, gear, style) and save it. All characters get a free one, and if you want more you need to pay. Notably, for armouries to be useful you need at least two.

Anytime you weren't in combat, you could activate an armory.

I'd love this in ESO...then I could run an optimized DPS build for soloing and switch to a dedicated healer build when grouped.

As it stands, my CPs and such are mostly geared for healing....so my DPS is somewhat lacklustre. Which is ok I guess, as I only DPS whilst soloing.

You are forgetting one major thing that I had previously noted... in regards to DCUO, they never charged real money for skill respecs, you paid in-game gold for it, so implementing armories didn't take any money away from their marketplace. However, with ESO, they DO offer both attribute and skill respecs for real money, so offering something like an armory would take money away from them over time.

The question is, though, how many people currently actually purchase the respec scrolls on the store vs how many they think they could get to purchase the Build-Save Tabs. Currently, players CAN ignore the store and just go pay gold to respec. This has to be done, over and over and over, if someone wants to do different builds, and as such, more people would use the in-game currency rather than spend real money, right?

However, with this, if they charged crowns for the tabs, and the tabs allow for complete save of builds including skills/morphs/CPs along with the simplicity of not having to make sure to buy every single ability and, oops, forgot something, now I have to redo it all... I'm pretty sure they would have guaranteed crown purchases that total more than what they are currently getting, because, despite being only available through crown purchases, it is a better way than constantly spending in-game currency (rather than purchasing the respec scrolls)

I'd be interested in knowing how many people actually use Crowns vs. gold for respecs. Speaking for myself, I'd never use Crowns for respecs. I'd rather farm the gold.

For DCUO, I'd say armouries were (possibly still are) a bit of a money spinner. I have four on two characters, and at two on most others. I've heard of others who had more than that.

LuminaLilly · May 2017

I'm only here because they said there would be cake and pizza

I run 3 different builds, I need this

Avalon · May 2017

LuminaLilly wrote: »

I run 3 different builds, I need this

You need cake and pizza because you run 3 builds?

Sneaky-Snurr · May 2017

I'm only here because they said there would be cake and pizza

The cake was a lie. And so is the pizza!

Adernath · May 2017

I have another idea that could work, and I will explain it in my post below

ADarklore wrote: »

Further, ZOS will not implement a feature which takes money away from items already in the Crown Store. Since 'Attribute' and 'Skill' tokens are sold, they will not create anything to offer those for free. They can make a lot more money from keeping the status quo than offering a 'build saver' that would be a one-time cost and cause them to lose money over time. Also, they will not offer anything that gives free CP reset either, just look at how they're handling Morrowind CP changes... they are giving people a ONE-TIME free reset, not a 'cost reduction' like they are with Skill Point resets.

Now consider that it's a very small group of people that want to hop between builds, and as others have said, once you gain enough SPs you can still have multiple build options.

So in short, ZOS isn't going to devote resources to creating something that really only appeals to a small minority while also costing them money in the long-term by negating items sold in the Crown Store.

The ability do be able to dualspec between 2 different CP setups is something which can be 'locked' behind a subscription. I would be highly against that, this was my concern. I think most players would like that option in the game. In WoW for example it was an absolute necessity to switch between 2 setups for PvE and PvP if you want to compete in both with one toon.

EDIT: Well, here one can in principle join a non-CP campaign and that's fine for me as well.

Kay1 · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

Console approve this

Ubung · May 2017

I would like something like this implemented

Yeah so basically dual spec from WoW. As a full on tank I would love this. Honestly it really surprises me that dual spec and transmog are not already in the game already given how much of a QOL improvement they were in WoW.

ADarklore · May 2017

bareheiny wrote: »

Avalon wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

DCUO introduced this...Armouries.

You imprint your build (skills, gear, style) and save it. All characters get a free one, and if you want more you need to pay. Notably, for armouries to be useful you need at least two.

Anytime you weren't in combat, you could activate an armory.

I'd love this in ESO...then I could run an optimized DPS build for soloing and switch to a dedicated healer build when grouped.

As it stands, my CPs and such are mostly geared for healing....so my DPS is somewhat lacklustre. Which is ok I guess, as I only DPS whilst soloing.

You are forgetting one major thing that I had previously noted... in regards to DCUO, they never charged real money for skill respecs, you paid in-game gold for it, so implementing armories didn't take any money away from their marketplace. However, with ESO, they DO offer both attribute and skill respecs for real money, so offering something like an armory would take money away from them over time.

The question is, though, how many people currently actually purchase the respec scrolls on the store vs how many they think they could get to purchase the Build-Save Tabs. Currently, players CAN ignore the store and just go pay gold to respec. This has to be done, over and over and over, if someone wants to do different builds, and as such, more people would use the in-game currency rather than spend real money, right?

However, with this, if they charged crowns for the tabs, and the tabs allow for complete save of builds including skills/morphs/CPs along with the simplicity of not having to make sure to buy every single ability and, oops, forgot something, now I have to redo it all... I'm pretty sure they would have guaranteed crown purchases that total more than what they are currently getting, because, despite being only available through crown purchases, it is a better way than constantly spending in-game currency (rather than purchasing the respec scrolls)

I'd be interested in knowing how many people actually use Crowns vs. gold for respecs. Speaking for myself, I'd never use Crowns for respecs. I'd rather farm the gold.

For DCUO, I'd say armouries were (possibly still are) a bit of a money spinner. I have four on two characters, and at two on most others. I've heard of others who had more than that.

Well, I can tell you I have bought the Crown Store respecs MANY times out of convenience and because the more SPs you have it can become extremely pricey to respec with gold. I have used gold for respecing a few times, but since I tend to buy hundreds of dollars worth of Crowns when they're on sale, it's much more convenience to use the Crown Store respecs IMO.

Oh, and as for DCUO armories, I had 16 of them... four in each of my lair bases.

Reason being, I swapped powers quite often, and so I had several armories imprinted with specific powers that I figured I'd return to again in the future.

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