NO WAY THIS IS HOW MORROWIND WILL LAUNCH NOW AND EVERYTHING WILL BE RUINED FOREVER!!!

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

NO WAY THIS IS HOW MORROWIND WILL LAUNCH NOW AND EVERYTHING WILL BE RUINED FOREVER!!!

good attempt... but i think you need to a bit more work on the hysteria....

dunmers always half ass it...

i don't see any lights on the end

I LOVE SOLO PVP

There's still time for 4 or 5 more patch tweaks. They need to address the issues of Vet-level pve content and issues with changed powers like Siphoning Strikes no longer being viable for the resource regen it was originally designed for.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

Zenimax will need some time to "digest" our feedback. Changes to recovery could come later.

So please, do not freak out too much. Keep testing, keep giving good, constructive feedback with proper proof.

YEAH!!!

We won't even need to remember the fact that... every PTS before this one, despite mountains of feedback from the PTS testers, nigh every single PTS patch went to the Live servers exactly how they appear on the PTS. Next to NO CHANGES brought forth by the testers were made before the PTS went to Live.

ZOS's track record: If it appears on the PTS, that's how it will be on Live, regardless of the feedback they get.

changes to the sorcs curse springs to mind and i think they want a word about that exactly as they appear comment.. sure they ignore alot, but they also have to sift through all the crybaby wahwahwah u ruined the game! im rolling a sorc so i dont get nerfed threads to find anything actually useful lol

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

We won't even need to remember the fact that... every PTS before this one, despite mountains of feedback from the PTS testers, nigh every single PTS patch went to the Live servers exactly how they appear on the PTS. Next to NO CHANGES brought forth by the testers were made before the PTS went to Live.

This is untrue.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

Zenimax will need some time to "digest" our feedback. Changes to recovery could come later.

So please, do not freak out too much. Keep testing, keep giving good, constructive feedback with proper proof.

YEAH!!!

We won't even need to remember the fact that... every PTS before this one, despite mountains of feedback from the PTS testers, nigh every single PTS patch went to the Live servers exactly how they appear on the PTS. Next to NO CHANGES brought forth by the testers were made before the PTS went to Live.

ZOS's track record: If it appears on the PTS, that's how it will be on Live, regardless of the feedback they get.

so what is the point of the PTS then? load testing?

argouru wrote: »

There's still time for 4 or 5 more patch tweaks. They need to address the issues of Vet-level pve content and issues with changed powers like Siphoning Strikes no longer being viable for the resource regen it was originally designed for.

Including this week there are 3 more weeks and possibly 4, 4th includes a week to adjust for the 3rd weeks data, since this update releases on all platforms at the same time. This gives 2 to 3 weeks for console approvals to go through. 2 weeks is usually the minimum time necessary without adjustments

ZOS has been awesome and we have been very interactive over the past week for what the community wants to see. They have given us tons of responses and reasoning for every single update and they have been known to make changes according to what we want as a player base.

Ya lets pretend this happens. If no major changes have happened yet they've been known to not even acknowledge them even post release. Quit the optimism they don't change their minds.

- Their own PTS is blowing up with the sheer number of players vehemently against 99% of the changes in it.
- Their Facebook page is blowing up.
- Their Twitter account is blowing up with people opposed to these changes.
- Reddit is lacerating them over these changes.
- Five (5) major ESO streamers are vociferously against these changes (and many smaller streamers) and telling them about how it will hurt their game (and a couple of them have started enacting moves to leave ESO behind).

So, with the majority of their players against these changes, and telling them about it mind you, It's all just "wah wah wah" threads that they have to sift through?

What fevered pitch does the negative opinions of these changes have to hit, before it changes from "wah wah wah" threads to "hey, there's actually serious game concerns with this patch, and your community of players is trying to make you aware of them"?

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Im sorry, but i just dont believe anywhere near as many people are on the actual PTS as they are crying that the changes are so terrible, impossible to play etc..it took me maybe 10-15mins per toon to adjust and adapt my playstyle to have almost the same dps as live (without changing a single set), sure resource management is a real thing now, and heavy attacking is required, but its a good thing.

For too long the meta (most likely promoted by those same eso streamers) has basically dumbed down the content and playstyle, to the point where SOME of these changes are necessary (yes i dont agree with every change in the pts notes, and i will be testing and leaving feedback on everything).. and now its showing, with most seeming to struggle to even try to test and find a way to adapt, and instead crying bad patch or simply rage quitting.

Any posts ive seen that are actually constructive or genuinely testing the changes are either being swamped with comments about how they dont know s#!t and the patch will ruin all, or are buried under pages of new threads all about how bad this patch will be..

beatonthis wrote: »

- Their own PTS is blowing up with the sheer number of players vehemently against 99% of the changes in it.
- Their Facebook page is blowing up.
- Their Twitter account is blowing up with people opposed to these changes.
- Reddit is lacerating them over these changes.
- Five (5) major ESO streamers are vociferously against these changes (and many smaller streamers) and telling them about how it will hurt their game (and a couple of them have started enacting moves to leave ESO behind).

So, with the majority of their players against these changes, and telling them about it mind you, It's all just "wah wah wah" threads that they have to sift through?

What fevered pitch does the negative opinions of these changes have to hit, before it changes from "wah wah wah" threads to "hey, there's actually serious game concerns with this patch, and your community of players is trying to make you aware of them"?

Im sorry, but i just dont believe anywhere near as many people are on the actual PTS as they are crying that the changes are so terrible, impossible to play etc..it took me maybe 10-15mins per toon to adjust and adapt my playstyle to have almost the same dps as live (without changing a single set), sure resource management is a real thing now, and heavy attacking is required, but its a good thing.

For too long the meta (most likely promoted by those same eso streamers) has basically dumbed down the content and playstyle, to the point where SOME of these changes are necessary (yes i dont agree with every change in the pts notes, and i will be testing and leaving feedback on everything).. and now its showing, with most seeming to struggle to even try to test and find a way to adapt, and instead crying bad patch or simply rage quitting.

Any posts ive seen that are actually constructive or genuinely testing the changes are either being swamped with comments about how they dont know s#!t and the patch will ruin all, or are buried under pages of new threads all about how bad this patch will be..

Yeah, because even with the FLOOD of "pages of new threads all about how bad this patch will be..", since they don't agree with you, they must ALL be wrong...

As I said in another thread; "what fever pitch do we have to get up to, in order for people to realize how bad these changes are?"

But nope, we're going to "ostrich" this one, because no matter how many multitudes of people are saying these changes are bad, they must surely all be wrong if they don't agree with you.

I seriously think that they will do what they are going to do and it the love it or leave ultimatum. They have an agenda and they figure we got pre orders for Morrowind we will buff stuff on the next patch.

Jitterbug wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Marto wrote: »

Zenimax will need some time to "digest" our feedback. Changes to recovery could come later.

So please, do not freak out too much. Keep testing, keep giving good, constructive feedback with proper proof.

YEAH!!!

We won't even need to remember the fact that... every PTS before this one, despite mountains of feedback from the PTS testers, nigh every single PTS patch went to the Live servers exactly how they appear on the PTS. Next to NO CHANGES brought forth by the testers were made before the PTS went to Live.

ZOS's track record: If it appears on the PTS, that's how it will be on Live, regardless of the feedback they get.

I don't think they want us here for creative input. They want us here to help identify progress impairing bugs.

Thieves Guild still can't be completed for many players due to a bug in the Quest Line. Its a long term known bug and as far as I'm aware nothing has been done even though it has been stated a few times that it was 'solved'.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Yeah, because even with the FLOOD of "pages of new threads all about how bad this patch will be..", since they don't agree with you, they must ALL be wrong...

If one man can be wrong, 1000 men can be wrong. (women are never wrong ). Quantity is not an indication of accuracy. People are herd animals. Quantity is an indication of the size of the herd. Quantity is an indication of popularity.

This patch is not completely bad. I think the statistic you made up earlier was that 99% of it was bad? This patch has rough areas that they need to address, and it will be interesting to see what they do. I cannot say that I agree with how they are rolling out these changes, but it certainly got a bit of attention.

Magıc wrote: »

Yeah people can't seem to comprehened that this is only the SECOND cycle lol.

I know right. Big changes are for sure coming.