NylesAdrean wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.
Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.
NylesAdrean wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.
Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.
Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Hazethemadman wrote: »When I say all, I mean an entire dedicated leveling guild - poof, gone.
Must not have been THAT dedicated (or loyal)...
Because dedication and loyality never waver...
Not if it's real. The problem today is that it indeed does waver...
You're completely ignorant of history if you think loyalty and dedication haven't been real, yet eventually wavered.
Yeah, but we're not in history class, are we?
Looks more like how to fanboy 101 to me.
And that's where you are wrong. I'm just not a whiny entitled little *** like most of the people around here. I know how things work out in the real world and accept it. Doesn't make me a fanboy, just a realist.
^
Thinks loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver, but is a *realist
*results in real world my vary.
Bouldercleave wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.
Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Hazethemadman wrote: »When I say all, I mean an entire dedicated leveling guild - poof, gone.
Must not have been THAT dedicated (or loyal)...
Because dedication and loyality never waver...
Not if it's real. The problem today is that it indeed does waver...
You're completely ignorant of history if you think loyalty and dedication haven't been real, yet eventually wavered.
Yeah, but we're not in history class, are we?
Looks more like how to fanboy 101 to me.
And that's where you are wrong. I'm just not a whiny entitled little *** like most of the people around here. I know how things work out in the real world and accept it. Doesn't make me a fanboy, just a realist.
^
Thinks loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver, but is a *realist
*results in real world my vary.
Yes - I believe loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver - and I believe in the real world that the watered down words loyalty and dedication do waver.
The realist in me also thinks that you are a dumb ass. I also I will probably get reported for calling you a dumb ass by you or an overly sensitive snowflake around here.
What exactly is your point?
NylesAdrean wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »I may have pre ordered destiny 2.
If it's only half as *** as the first ESO could have a problem.
I am signed up for Quake Champions Beta. Wont be spending money but I'll Beta. After that Im going to overhaul all of my PCs... Win98SE, XP and 7... so that I can have the best single player rigs. Pretty much done with online gaming. Tired of putting in the work and having them do something to force me into reworking builds I spent nearly a year getting to what I would term perfect or near perfect. And it's not just ZOS. It's DDO, LotRO, SWtOR, etc etc etc. If they cant get it right before release, why release it at all? I've had enough. And I can only hope everyone else is as fed up as I am.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You take the game too far and then whine and make the developers and everybody look bad. It was your decision that you've put so much time into "perfecting" something. You didn't have to, you CHOSE to. So don't blame the devs for changing THEIR PRODUCT as THEY SEE FIT.
NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
@NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.

Bouldercleave wrote: »Yes - I believe loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver - and I believe in the real world that the watered down words loyalty and dedication do waver.
The realist in me also thinks that you are a dumb ass. I also know that I will probably get reported for calling you a dumb ass by you or an overly sensitive snowflake around here.
What exactly is your point?
NylesAdrean wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »I may have pre ordered destiny 2.
If it's only half as *** as the first ESO could have a problem.
I am signed up for Quake Champions Beta. Wont be spending money but I'll Beta. After that Im going to overhaul all of my PCs... Win98SE, XP and 7... so that I can have the best single player rigs. Pretty much done with online gaming. Tired of putting in the work and having them do something to force me into reworking builds I spent nearly a year getting to what I would term perfect or near perfect. And it's not just ZOS. It's DDO, LotRO, SWtOR, etc etc etc. If they cant get it right before release, why release it at all? I've had enough. And I can only hope everyone else is as fed up as I am.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You and others like you are just sad examples of humanity. You take the game too far and then whine and make the developers and everybody look bad. It was your decision that you've put so much time into "perfecting" something. You didn't have to, you CHOSE to. So don't blame the devs for changing THEIR PRODUCT as THEY SEE FIT.
I'm really happy there's only a handful of these butthurt "pro" players.
Others may do that but I dont. If I have an easy time at a game like Quake, I tell them to make it harder. Im not an elite player in those kinds of games and I know the level of play that the guys I play with who play these kinds of game, expect. Some one like me should BARELY be able to succeed at Quake.
Had I been in Beta for TESO, I would have said it wasnt enough like ES. I dont like games where every class can do everything EXCEPT for ES. But when I started, there was enough difference in the classes that you needed a TEAM of classes to get thru stuff. Now Im seeing solo vids. If it's a team sport, then make it a team sport, not dumb it down for me so I can solo it. If Im gonna solo a game, why would I join an MMO in the first place?
Your assumption of me screwing up games has more to do with what you would do than it does for me.
You may have misunderstood my comment about not spending money as an effect on the beta and it's not. It's a statement that Im done working hard to maximize my character to the best of my ability only to have the devs nerf everything about it to supplement a new class they dont have the imagination to make good on it's own.
And the issue arises when they take an MMO and try to make a balance between questing and PvP. Unless you have 2 formats(and yes, there are games that do) to accommodate both SEPARATELY, you will fail every time. Fighting against NPCs is never going to require the same thing as PvP. You have to have an additional load out, gear, stats, skills, etc. ... for PvP and NPC. PERIOD. NO ONE has successfully merged the 2.
So... as you can see, Im not one of those (expletives deleted) that is out to homogenize the games. Im out to make the better. Not by what I can do. But by what the game SHOULD be able to do. What an MMO is SUPPOSED to be. And it's NOT supposed to cater to everyone. It's supposed to be hard. Fine example is Tic Tac Toe. You dont play that any more because it's too easy. So before you decide to go all wackadoodle on some one, ask some questions first. Find out their motivations first.
This is my leisure time activity. I spend anywhere from 2-14 hours a day on the game. I want to complete the achievements. If my focus meshes with some one else's we join up. If not, I remain solo til it does. That's the beauty of ES. There is always some one grinding. So you can always jump into that. There is always some one PVPing and you can jump into that. There is always some one doing something that can overlap what you are after.
This game is great. Destroying what I worked for isnt. And if I can get that message across in a beta... Im going to. But Im not going to screw it up. At least not on purpose. I consider everything except graphics. I can let a bit of imagery go as long as the game play is good.
So... as you can see, Im not one of those (expletives deleted) that is out to homogenize the games. Im out to make the better. Not by what I can do. But by what the game SHOULD be able to do. What an MMO is SUPPOSED to be. And it's NOT supposed to cater to everyone. It's supposed to be hard. Fine example is Tic Tac Toe. You dont play that any more because it's too easy. So before you decide to go all wackadoodle on some one, ask some questions first. Find out their motivations first.
This game is great. Destroying what I worked for isnt. And if I can get that message across in a beta... Im going to. But Im not going to screw it up. At least not on purpose. I consider everything except graphics. I can let a bit of imagery go as long as the game play is good.
Bouldercleave wrote: »Sorry @NylesAdrean - I have no idea why it did that. Not directed at you at all my friend. You and I are 100% on the same page.
I'm not quitting because of one patch note.
I just want Nightblades to get as much attention as the other 4 classes, which is why I'm posting critique in other threads.
NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
@NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.
Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
I've pretty much stopped playing. Haven't bothered signing in for a few days now. I've lost all joy of playing this game after reading through the PTS patch notes and knowing what's coming.
NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
@NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.
Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
@max_only Facts! Lmao.I'm deadass trying to get sauce, whenever people bring me these dry claims on the forums. People can do all this flexing and wolfing, but can't even bring any sauce to drizzle on top of such a hardy post? Pfffft. I'm not buying it. Not in the slightest.
Bouldercleave wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »NylesAdrean wrote: »You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...
All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.
People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.
I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.
This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.
Got any sauce for those claims?
Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.
@NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.
Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
@max_only Facts! Lmao.I'm deadass trying to get sauce, whenever people bring me these dry claims on the forums. People can do all this flexing and wolfing, but can't even bring any sauce to drizzle on top of such a hardy post? Pfffft. I'm not buying it. Not in the slightest.
None of those words should be used together to make a sentence. Ever.
Bouldercleave wrote: »I don't play 8-9 hours a day like some people do, so I suffer little to no burnout.
Moderation is the key - you can't help but burn out on something if you do it ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
It's not the game burning people out, its people burning themselves out.
Bouldercleave wrote: »