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How Many Of You Have Decided to Stop Playing ESO?

  • ofSunhold
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    I'd like to see Morrowind, and I'll stick for that. Presumably that's why they timed it this way.

    But I switched servers to play BG with a specific group of people, one of whom was gone almost immediately (nothing to do with the game) and one has quit already, demoralized over the whole direction of this change. Expecting to lose another, he's just throwing himself on the PTS right now trying to make it work, but less and less happy about it.

    So there's three of the seven of us, leaving just enough for Battlegrounds with no alternate team composition. Not excited about that. Also not happy about the general direction the game is going.

    I know there's always some amount of freak-out when a patch drops. They make so many changes at once, of course there is - and these are just the intended changes, there are always a bunch of "oops, wait what now?" when the update goes live that aren't fun either.

    This one is different, and I hope for the game's sake They are noticing that as much as I am.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
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    Will stop at the first direct sign of P2W. (Don't the the warden is P2W, yet)
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  • timidobserver
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    I dislike the balancing as much as anyone, but it is way too early to be quitting for people that are quitting over the PTS. I want to see what the next two iterations look like. I think Templar are up the creek without a paddle(reverting the Templar changes would go against their direction entirely), but I can see them walking back some of the other changes. I expect Warden to get some nerfs,so that it isn't so obviously P2W.
    Edited by timidobserver on April 22, 2017 6:42PM
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    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • Nyladreas
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
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    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.

    Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.

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    That moment when you realize that even the tiniest bit of hope you've had left in the person you're talking to gets crushed by their latest idiotic response. I think there really isn't a point in talking to people like you anymore. I'm just naive. Yeah that's probably it. I'm too naive to accept it.

    Or maybe you're just mad that you're the one left out and missing info on how to be "the best" again. Ugh Idk anymore.
    Edited by Nyladreas on April 22, 2017 6:48PM
  • UppGRAYxDD
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    Since I only see PC....Xbox NA GIVE ME ALL YOUR STUFF!!!
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  • Bouldercleave
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.

    Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.
    dday3six wrote: »
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    When I say all, I mean an entire dedicated leveling guild - poof, gone.

    Must not have been THAT dedicated (or loyal)...

    Because dedication and loyality never waver...

    Not if it's real. The problem today is that it indeed does waver...

    You're completely ignorant of history if you think loyalty and dedication haven't been real, yet eventually wavered.

    Yeah, but we're not in history class, are we?

    Looks more like how to fanboy 101 to me.

    And that's where you are wrong. I'm just not a whiny entitled little *** like most of the people around here. I know how things work out in the real world and accept it. Doesn't make me a fanboy, just a realist.

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    Thinks loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver, but is a *realist

    *results in real world my vary.

    Yes - I believe loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver - and I believe in the real world that the watered down words loyalty and dedication do waver.

    The realist in me also thinks that you are a dumb ass. I also know that I will probably get reported for calling you a dumb ass by you or an overly sensitive snowflake around here.

    What exactly is your point?

    Edited by Bouldercleave on April 22, 2017 6:47PM
  • Nyladreas
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    That's exactly what someone with no sauce would say. Well played, sir.

    Say, do and think what you will. It's more than easy to find out just by going thro the forums here alone lol. I'm not going to put anyone out into the spotlight and risk their beta access by posting sensitive class balance/build info publicly here. There might be a partial lift, but that doesn't mean you're gunna get everything handed to you. Oh no, life doesn't work that way buddy.
    dday3six wrote: »
    dday3six wrote: »
    dday3six wrote: »
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    When I say all, I mean an entire dedicated leveling guild - poof, gone.

    Must not have been THAT dedicated (or loyal)...

    Because dedication and loyality never waver...

    Not if it's real. The problem today is that it indeed does waver...

    You're completely ignorant of history if you think loyalty and dedication haven't been real, yet eventually wavered.

    Yeah, but we're not in history class, are we?

    Looks more like how to fanboy 101 to me.

    And that's where you are wrong. I'm just not a whiny entitled little *** like most of the people around here. I know how things work out in the real world and accept it. Doesn't make me a fanboy, just a realist.

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    Thinks loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver, but is a *realist

    *results in real world my vary.

    Yes - I believe loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver - and I believe in the real world that the watered down words loyalty and dedication do waver.

    The realist in me also thinks that you are a dumb ass. I also I will probably get reported for calling you a dumb ass by you or an overly sensitive snowflake around here.

    What exactly is your point?

    Why the hell did you even include my post in here? It's not even exactly related.
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    Sorry @NylesAdrean - I have no idea why it did that. Not directed at you at all my friend. You and I are 100% on the same page.

    Edited by Bouldercleave on April 22, 2017 6:50PM
  • jaye63
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    jaye63 wrote: »
    I may have pre ordered destiny 2.

    If it's only half as *** as the first ESO could have a problem.

    I am signed up for Quake Champions Beta. Wont be spending money but I'll Beta. After that Im going to overhaul all of my PCs... Win98SE, XP and 7... so that I can have the best single player rigs. Pretty much done with online gaming. Tired of putting in the work and having them do something to force me into reworking builds I spent nearly a year getting to what I would term perfect or near perfect. And it's not just ZOS. It's DDO, LotRO, SWtOR, etc etc etc. If they cant get it right before release, why release it at all? I've had enough. And I can only hope everyone else is as fed up as I am.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. You take the game too far and then whine and make the developers and everybody look bad. It was your decision that you've put so much time into "perfecting" something. You didn't have to, you CHOSE to. So don't blame the devs for changing THEIR PRODUCT as THEY SEE FIT.

    Others may do that but I dont. If I have an easy time at a game like Quake, I tell them to make it harder. Im not an elite player in those kinds of games and I know the level of play that the guys I play with who play these kinds of game, expect. Some one like me should BARELY be able to succeed at Quake.

    Had I been in Beta for TESO, I would have said it wasnt enough like ES. I dont like games where every class can do everything EXCEPT for ES. But when I started, there was enough difference in the classes that you needed a TEAM of classes to get thru stuff. Now Im seeing solo vids. If it's a team sport, then make it a team sport, not dumb it down for me so I can solo it. If Im gonna solo a game, why would I join an MMO in the first place?

    Your assumption of me screwing up games has more to do with what you would do than it does for me.

    You may have misunderstood my comment about not spending money as an effect on the beta and it's not. It's a statement that Im done working hard to maximize my character to the best of my ability only to have the devs nerf everything about it to supplement a new class they dont have the imagination to make good on it's own.

    And the issue arises when they take an MMO and try to make a balance between questing and PvP. Unless you have 2 formats(and yes, there are games that do) to accommodate both SEPARATELY, you will fail every time. Fighting against NPCs is never going to require the same thing as PvP. You have to have an additional load out, gear, stats, skills, etc. ... for PvP and NPC. PERIOD. NO ONE has successfully merged the 2.

    So... as you can see, Im not one of those (expletives deleted) that is out to homogenize the games. Im out to make the better. Not by what I can do. But by what the game SHOULD be able to do. What an MMO is SUPPOSED to be. And it's NOT supposed to cater to everyone. It's supposed to be hard. Fine example is Tic Tac Toe. You dont play that any more because it's too easy. So before you decide to go all wackadoodle on some one, ask some questions first. Find out their motivations first.

    This is my leisure time activity. I spend anywhere from 2-14 hours a day on the game. I want to complete the achievements. If my focus meshes with some one else's we join up. If not, I remain solo til it does. That's the beauty of ES. There is always some one grinding. So you can always jump into that. There is always some one PVPing and you can jump into that. There is always some one doing something that can overlap what you are after.

    This game is great. Destroying what I worked for isnt. And if I can get that message across in a beta... Im going to. But Im not going to screw it up. At least not on purpose. I consider everything except graphics. I can let a bit of imagery go as long as the game play is good.
    Edited by [Deleted User] on April 22, 2017 9:11PM
  • max_only
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    @NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.

    Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
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  • KingYogi415
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    I can quit anytime I want!
    south-park-s11e13c13-randys-chasing-the-dragon-16x9.jpg?

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    Edited by KingYogi415 on April 22, 2017 6:52PM
  • LuminaLilly
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    Meh, I love the game but hate where pvp is going, it'll always be my primary game. Excited for all kinds of cosmetic goodies and game play with morrowind. But I soon won't care anymore about getting the most kills in pvp anymore. I used to want to get on and snag as many kills as humanly possible, but now, nah. People are zerging hard taking maps with a "small group" of 15 people who are Templars wearing cheese builds.

    I've been seeing myself playing fallout 4 more.
    Edited by LuminaLilly on April 22, 2017 6:54PM
  • DHale
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    I will wait for the update and give it a week. Then make the decision. I did cancel my sub last Wednesday. If I leave please have fun with your heavy attacks.
    Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.
  • dday3six
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    Yes - I believe loyalty and dedication are only real if they never waver - and I believe in the real world that the watered down words loyalty and dedication do waver.

    The realist in me also thinks that you are a dumb ass. I also know that I will probably get reported for calling you a dumb ass by you or an overly sensitive snowflake around here.

    What exactly is your point?

    My point is you're not a realist, but an idealist. Idealists don't live in the real world rather a fantasy of it. If you think people can be poorly treated yet never turn their back on you because of some romanticized concept of dedication and loyalty you're a fool. An idealistic fool with their head on the chopping block. Who might want to contemplate Caeser's last words.
    Edited by dday3six on April 22, 2017 7:10PM
  • Bouldercleave
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    DHale wrote: »
    I will wait for the update and give it a week. Then make the decision.

    The only sane answer I have seen in the last several days.

  • Nyladreas
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    jaye63 wrote: »
    jaye63 wrote: »
    I may have pre ordered destiny 2.

    If it's only half as *** as the first ESO could have a problem.

    I am signed up for Quake Champions Beta. Wont be spending money but I'll Beta. After that Im going to overhaul all of my PCs... Win98SE, XP and 7... so that I can have the best single player rigs. Pretty much done with online gaming. Tired of putting in the work and having them do something to force me into reworking builds I spent nearly a year getting to what I would term perfect or near perfect. And it's not just ZOS. It's DDO, LotRO, SWtOR, etc etc etc. If they cant get it right before release, why release it at all? I've had enough. And I can only hope everyone else is as fed up as I am.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. You and others like you are just sad examples of humanity. You take the game too far and then whine and make the developers and everybody look bad. It was your decision that you've put so much time into "perfecting" something. You didn't have to, you CHOSE to. So don't blame the devs for changing THEIR PRODUCT as THEY SEE FIT.

    I'm really happy there's only a handful of these butthurt "pro" players.

    Others may do that but I dont. If I have an easy time at a game like Quake, I tell them to make it harder. Im not an elite player in those kinds of games and I know the level of play that the guys I play with who play these kinds of game, expect. Some one like me should BARELY be able to succeed at Quake.

    Had I been in Beta for TESO, I would have said it wasnt enough like ES. I dont like games where every class can do everything EXCEPT for ES. But when I started, there was enough difference in the classes that you needed a TEAM of classes to get thru stuff. Now Im seeing solo vids. If it's a team sport, then make it a team sport, not dumb it down for me so I can solo it. If Im gonna solo a game, why would I join an MMO in the first place?

    Your assumption of me screwing up games has more to do with what you would do than it does for me.

    You may have misunderstood my comment about not spending money as an effect on the beta and it's not. It's a statement that Im done working hard to maximize my character to the best of my ability only to have the devs nerf everything about it to supplement a new class they dont have the imagination to make good on it's own.

    And the issue arises when they take an MMO and try to make a balance between questing and PvP. Unless you have 2 formats(and yes, there are games that do) to accommodate both SEPARATELY, you will fail every time. Fighting against NPCs is never going to require the same thing as PvP. You have to have an additional load out, gear, stats, skills, etc. ... for PvP and NPC. PERIOD. NO ONE has successfully merged the 2.

    So... as you can see, Im not one of those (expletives deleted) that is out to homogenize the games. Im out to make the better. Not by what I can do. But by what the game SHOULD be able to do. What an MMO is SUPPOSED to be. And it's NOT supposed to cater to everyone. It's supposed to be hard. Fine example is Tic Tac Toe. You dont play that any more because it's too easy. So before you decide to go all wackadoodle on some one, ask some questions first. Find out their motivations first.

    This is my leisure time activity. I spend anywhere from 2-14 hours a day on the game. I want to complete the achievements. If my focus meshes with some one else's we join up. If not, I remain solo til it does. That's the beauty of ES. There is always some one grinding. So you can always jump into that. There is always some one PVPing and you can jump into that. There is always some one doing something that can overlap what you are after.

    This game is great. Destroying what I worked for isnt. And if I can get that message across in a beta... Im going to. But Im not going to screw it up. At least not on purpose. I consider everything except graphics. I can let a bit of imagery go as long as the game play is good.

    Sorry, but.... about a quarter of this post doesn't really make sense to me and the other 2 quarters look like you're attempting to explain yourself and justify your reasons. My only question is why? Why the hell would you do that to another person on the internet. I could give less poop about you even in reality in fact. As so should others. Get some self-respect lol. You look like someone my friend would call "a beta". Sheesh. You shouldn't have to explain yourself like this to anyone. Especially online. (I'm not trying to be offensive here or be a *** or anything like that, take it as a legit friendly advice).

    However, I can see where you're coming from and agree to certain things in the very little you have written on the actual content of the game. This part here:
    jaye63 wrote: »
    So... as you can see, Im not one of those (expletives deleted) that is out to homogenize the games. Im out to make the better. Not by what I can do. But by what the game SHOULD be able to do. What an MMO is SUPPOSED to be. And it's NOT supposed to cater to everyone. It's supposed to be hard. Fine example is Tic Tac Toe. You dont play that any more because it's too easy. So before you decide to go all wackadoodle on some one, ask some questions first. Find out their motivations first.

    This game is great. Destroying what I worked for isnt. And if I can get that message across in a beta... Im going to. But Im not going to screw it up. At least not on purpose. I consider everything except graphics. I can let a bit of imagery go as long as the game play is good.

    I may have overreacted a little too. I'll admit. But don't be surprised. All I see on the forums lately is neverending negativity, hate, flame-wars etc. People just going insane over patch notes majority haven't even properly tested. That's what drives me so hostile.

    (Using a phone to type this out so excuse any grammar mistakes/missing words)
    Edited by Nyladreas on April 22, 2017 7:06PM
  • max_only
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    I'm not quitting because of one patch note.

    I just want Nightblades to get as much attention as the other 4 classes, which is why I'm posting critique in other threads.
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  • Nyladreas
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    Sorry @NylesAdrean - I have no idea why it did that. Not directed at you at all my friend. You and I are 100% on the same page.

    All good @Bouldercleave. :)
    max_only wrote: »
    I'm not quitting because of one patch note.

    I just want Nightblades to get as much attention as the other 4 classes, which is why I'm posting critique in other threads.

    Now that's something I can respect. "To get as much attention as the other 4 classes". That sentence right there. .
    Edited by Nyladreas on April 22, 2017 7:15PM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    max_only wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    @NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.

    Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
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    @max_only Facts! Lmao. :D I'm deadass trying to get sauce, whenever people bring me these dry claims on the forums. People can do all this flexing and wolfing, but can't even bring any sauce to drizzle on top of such a hardy post? Pfffft. I'm not buying it. Not in the slightest.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on April 22, 2017 7:20PM
  • NBrookus
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    I've pretty much stopped playing. Haven't bothered signing in for a few days now. I've lost all joy of playing this game after reading through the PTS patch notes and knowing what's coming.

    That's where I'm at. When the patch notes positively dumpstered the class identity of 6 of 8 of your max level characters and a 7th wasn't and still isn't all that viable, there is no joy in Mudville.

    Someone posted a few days ago that ESO was a game where you start every pvp night excited and end every night in frustration. Broken skills, broken sets, game bugs, insane class imbalance... Well, I've taken breaks before and come back. I'm not calling it quits entirely until I see how this patch shakes out. But having more fun not playing than playing at the moment.
    Edited by NBrookus on April 22, 2017 7:29PM
  • Bouldercleave
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    @NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.

    Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
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    @max_only Facts! Lmao. :D I'm deadass trying to get sauce, whenever people bring me these dry claims on the forums. People can do all this flexing and wolfing, but can't even bring any sauce to drizzle on top of such a hardy post? Pfffft. I'm not buying it. Not in the slightest.

    None of those words should be used together to make a sentence. Ever.
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    It doesn't really matter how many are leaving, they'll all be back. It's a B2P game so you never fully leave, you just take a break and then return when you realise (a) that the game you went to isn't a panacea and (b) the thing you were annoyed by didn't turn out to be anything like as bad as you were led by others to believe it would be. The sort of upset we're seeing here currently about the changes coming with Morrowind is no different to the upset we saw about all the previous changes - not least the crown crates when people were leaving on moral principles only to return - and the game has continued to grow all the while.
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
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    You guys should all just chill the hell out and adapt. Seriously...

    All the people whining and acting like this on the forums are worse than my sister's 5 year old kid.

    People don't even have any solid evidence nor reliable testing data and they're already throwing everything away.

    I've heard from beta testers who hated the patch notes... They're actually having loads of fun over there. Guess why? Because they didn't just give up like little crybabies and found a way.

    This is how every major MMO works anyway. You get new stuff/gear/skills/rebalance every quarter or so.

    Got any sauce for those claims?

    Yep, but I sure as hell ain't gunna share those publicly on a forum full of spoonfed entitled immature players.

    @NylesAdrean I don't think you have any sauces for that bold-tasting claim. So you're not going to provide anything to go with that dish? You're just going to leave it to sit there all dry, and have everyone in this thread questioning its validity or not? Hmmmmmmm.

    Champ is over here asking for the lamb sauce....
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    @max_only Facts! Lmao. :D I'm deadass trying to get sauce, whenever people bring me these dry claims on the forums. People can do all this flexing and wolfing, but can't even bring any sauce to drizzle on top of such a hardy post? Pfffft. I'm not buying it. Not in the slightest.

    None of those words should be used together to make a sentence. Ever.

    Lolololol. :)
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    I'm waiting until I see the final patch notes, then I'll cancel my preorder and unsub if it's still garbage.
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    @NylesAdrean So are you really not going to give me any sauce? For real, bruh? I can't get any A1? I can't even get 1 of those cheap bottles of Tabasco? How you gonna front on ole' Champ? :|
  • alexkdd99
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    I don't play 8-9 hours a day like some people do, so I suffer little to no burnout.

    Moderation is the key - you can't help but burn out on something if you do it ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

    It's not the game burning people out, its people burning themselves out.

    I don't think that is true for everyone. The point I burn out is after I have repeated the same content so many different times. Or if I am chasing that carrot but never feel like I am making any progress at reaching it.

    Games can definitely burn people out in the 2 scenarios listed above.

    I don't play all day every day, not even every day. But I have been burned out with eso multiple times throughout the life of the game. Not because I played all day every day, but because of stretches of time where there is no additional content. Or through repeated nerfs where I feel like I am getting weaker instead of stronger.

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    Valykc wrote: »
    I'm waiting until I see the final patch notes, then I'll cancel my preorder and unsub if it's still garbage.

    I would wait just a bit longer than just reading the final patch notes. You may want to try playing for a couple of days before a rage quit.
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    No, if anything I am giving up my other MMO (FFXIV) to devote more time to ESO.

    Especially considering it's the most horrible people in the community that are quiting.
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    I came, I saw, I pve'd, I pvp'd, and here's where it stands for me:

    This game has a lot of potential. Unfortunately, that potential is being squashed by the genre and business environment that surrounds it. Just like Doom had too many clones for you to remember/care about, the MMORP-Not-So-Sandbox-G imitation is enough demonstration to indicate that the development team is unwilling to take real risks with gameplay, and instead is choosing the failed route of copying, and trying to hook as many gambling addicts as they can to keep something sub-par going.

    Unless something amazing happens, like an end to rng loot, vet dungeon score runs, SOME carrot on a stick to care about since gear will cease to be the carrot, class dissolution other than the story npc reactions(LIKE ALL THE OTHER TES GAMES), end to CP/Vet levels, and a real focus on improving the core gameplay system (animation canceling is not skill when the majority macros)... well

    Guess I'll log on once in a great while to rp with my wife around the server... until it crashes.

    Seriously, if I wanted a grind game, Path of Exile did it way better AND the progression was consistent. Loot in ESO reminds me of World of Warcraft, but just about every piece you need is legendary.

    Oh, and don't bother mooing at me; if you're content with sub-par entertainment, performing less than your full potential because RNG-ZOS didn't bless you, or just trolling... then chew your grass, cow. This is a one-and-done post.
  • Valykc
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    Valykc wrote: »
    I'm waiting until I see the final patch notes, then I'll cancel my preorder and unsub if it's still garbage.

    I would wait just a bit longer than just reading the final patch notes. You may want to try playing for a couple of days before a rage quit.

    I have been testing, I'm not a fan. Next week I'll test again and every week until Morrowind is just about here, then decide. Not really Rage quitting but not paying for things I don't need if I'm not playing anymore and moving on to another game. Plus I've been playing For Honor lately. That game has a few issues too but it's still fun.
    Edited by Valykc on April 22, 2017 8:29PM
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