jake_gyllnub18_ESO wrote: »

The real kicker is that a Dual wielding Templar can kill a mob nearly as fast as a dual wielding Nightblade, plus they have healing on top of it.

Nightblades is a complete joke and waste of time.

You can make several arguments, but none have any justification.

Oh but Nightblades have a 3 second stun!.....And Templars have a Knockback that's also a 3 second stun.

But Nightblades have Siphon!....And Templars can heal for far more than siphon ever will.

Sorcerers are supposed to be the spell casting ranged DPS, and they are.

Nightblades should have been the melee higher damage DPS, but they are not.

Nightblade was REALLY good in the beta....but then they nerfed bow damage.

Yasha wrote: »

Honfold wrote: »

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Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

Teleport strike, vielled strike, and a heavy attack to knock down is devastating to open with as a sneak attack chain.

Personally I don't even use the 2.5 sec invisible ability as its magika cost would just be better used as another vielled strike imo.

I don't understand how this combo works- after TP strike you come out of stealth so veiled strike doesn't stun and heavy attack won't knock down please explain how it works.

Probably Means:
Ambush>Cloak>Veiled Strike> Heavy attack

However If this is against anyone paying attention, the enemy will be gone or have a strong anti CC up during the cloak phase.

That's what I would have expected, but he says that he doesn't use the "the 2.5 sec invisible ability ", so I don't understand how his set up is "devastating to open with as a sneak attack chain" -or indeed how any of what he suggests works.

BTW- my teleport strike from stealth only seems to root players in pvp- do you guys get a stun on players?

I think your teleport strike morph is the one that does an ae root with greatly reduced damage.

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

On another note, if I remember correctly on one of the reddits with the devs last week, they mentioned buffing a lot of lesser used skills and said the NB was getting a lot, he said the assassination line and listed the sneak attack passive

Hopefully they do.

yea! Buff NightBlades!! So weak in pvp

Brizz wrote: »

yea! Buff NightBlades!! So weak in pvp

Shhh...

I second this. We suck!!! Lmao

First off, I'm a nightblade just to make things crystal clear.

Now, while NB's not really being any better at stealth than any other class, and you 'could' say nor should they either as all classes are proficient with magic, and shouldn't that be a Sorc thing only? Semantics I know, but you get the idea. However, I believe the should be incrementally better at Stealth, and here is why.

NB's have two of their three skill lines dedicated to the art of stealth, one being Assassination and the other is aptly named Shadow, yet really we don't get any real advantage over any other class when it comes to stealth. Why is that?

I mean the name of Shadow itself as a skill line suggests that stealth would be a staple part of a NB's diet. But it's not, not really. Do we have to wait for other guilds to start, like the Dark Brotherhood for this to happen?

The only reason most people chose an NB to begin with was because they wanted to be a sneaky, shadowy buzzard, but that's not what we have.

I'm not complaining btw, I make do with what I've got. My armour and enchantments I currently run are very much stealth centered, and I make it work for me.

So what would I like? Just one thing, for NB's to not be able to be broken out of stealth, invis and cloak as easily as they are right now. Personally, 2.9 seconds of cloak is a little short too.

That's it, nothing more.

I one hit killd a dude with my 3224 concealed weapon. Shame the dude was really Black Daggers..... In PvP that hit is same as an average sorcerer fragment damage, and its one time only, not like fragment. So.... LOL Zeni (ye used mark target too... 75% debuff my a$$ zeni...its maybe 0.000075%)
How could be 3224 be lowered by using hidden, maybe cloak too, so eating up some stamina by sneaking + mark (my a$$ Zeni) target, and punch in a guy with the same amount of damage as a normal fragment crit, with the double (or tripple) effort.
Noone want to one hit kill a player with 3224, but A SIMPLE FRAGMENT DAMAGE? with lot more WORK? LOL...

Forgot to mention: You need to do it from behind... so sneak to back, or you will make the enemy LOL at you... And does not matter if you wear light or medium, youll not make it different. Penetration or not, same crapdamage compared to non stealthing damages, cast time or not, fragment can proc so make it much more better.

Ohh and ok. Forget the damage. The player does not die, ok you cloak away.... ohh not you dont... you do... you dont ... you do... you dont... HAPPY DARK CLOAK

The invisibility skill of a night blade needs to be nerfed. They should not be able to break any and all attacks just by going invisible. This happens when a staff is locked on or any other weapon. Every other class does not get this, if they get hit while in stealth by some random arrow shot or staff pointed in their direction they get hit. The invisibility of the Night Blade is an unfair advantage.

Just for arguments sake...

If you fire off a light attack and the NB then cloaks, it is still going to hit them. I do it to other NBs all the time (the inexperienced ones).

If they dodge roll into cloak, the dodge roll will clear the incoming attack and allow the cloak to function properly. Most moderate to experienced NBs do this.

Then there is "rapid cloak" where while in the midst of the dodge roll, they are able to apply the cloak. I haven't figure out how to do this like the top tier NBs as you cannot AC the dodge roll and since dodge rolling has the same if not higher priority then instant abilities, casting cloak doesn't work. If heard it's a timing thing but well, never got the knack for it.

Also, if you have a dodge mitigation ability active such as shuffle, then the attack will also miss and the cloak will function.