You all need to calm down over morrowind/patch

vamp_emily · April 2017

Cool story, bro. Can you tell us another one?

kalimar44 · April 2017

WOW would not be where it was if It wasn't for EVERQUEST!! I hated that hand holding kids game.

Shad0wfire99 · April 2017

Because telling people what they NEED to do has been working so well the last couple of days.

ParaNostram · April 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?

And here you are with one liners on all of them! (Clarification, I've got nothing against ya, just shining a light on what you do)

Palidon · April 2017

To be fair there is a point where a player gets sick and tired of having to change his builds because of numerous changes to racial class skills and passives or for that matter changes in gear set stats that make his or her play style obsolete. Now changes to the Champion Point System too with 3.0. I really don't think ZOS knows what they are doing. In either case I for one am sick and of ZOS's constant changes. If that is complaining tough crap.

Cadbury · April 2017

ParaNostram wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?

And here you are with one liners on all of them! (Clarification, I've got nothing against ya, just shining a light on what you do)

ParaNostram · April 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?

And here you are with one liners on all of them! (Clarification, I've got nothing against ya, just shining a light on what you do)

*one tear slowly falls*

Godspeed!

David_Zarn · April 2017

Drachenfier wrote: »

David_Zarn wrote: »

Lineage 2, which was great MMO as well, died after they chose same direction as WoW did, guess why? They didn't had such big fun base.

Lineage 2 is still huge in the East. It died in the West for the same reason it was never very popular in the West - The grind was ridiculous. It could have been a massive success if they had simply tailored it for the Western market, but they refused to do so. It was never anything more than a niche game here. I played it for five years

Yeah but besides of that it had alot of fun within it, world pvp, pk system, sieges and so on, i was playing it for 5 years as well and even liked it more than wow. But as soon as they went with system "make game easy for players" it died ot west as you said. It was same like make dark souls easier just because someone could not pass through it.

Sigtric · April 2017

Lynx7386 wrote: »

To be fair, blizzard has devs who display common sense and actually play their own games. Not sure the same can be said of zenimax

A little common sense and some looking around places like twitter and twitch, and you'd know that ZOS devs play ESO.

ParaNostram · April 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

To be fair, blizzard has devs who display common sense and actually play their own games. Not sure the same can be said of zenimax

A little common sense and some looking around places like twitter and twitch, and you'd know that ZOS devs play ESO.

Aye, watch the live streams, whenever they have people who are leading the development charge you can see they are as big of nerds as we are and like us they have different visions of how the game should be.

Splattercat_83 · April 2017

stevesherpa wrote: »

Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!

It didn't.

2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

It didn't.

3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

Guess what...it didn't.

4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

Nope, didnt die.

5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

And...it didnt

6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

Of course it didn't.

Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

[snip]

guess what, the game wont die.

[Edit title and content for baiting]

Or be able to do a vet trial in under 6 hours because all you will be doing is wiping and heavy attacking. Sounds like so much funnnnn, in wow you have pretty much unlimited resources, here they took them away. And keeping them from coming back.

Mojmir · April 2017

stevesherpa wrote: »

Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!

It didn't.

2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

It didn't.

3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

Guess what...it didn't.

4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

Nope, didnt die.

5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

And...it didnt

6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

Of course it didn't.

Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

[snip]

guess what, the game wont die.

[Edit title and content for baiting]

Alot of ppl have been through mmos,patches like these are why we stopped playing them.if only devs could understand the correlation.
Biggest example I can think of, publish 16 in Ultima online,what an exodus that was.

coop500 · April 2017

I do not know what's more annoying, the people saying the game will just die, or the people whining about these people.
The game won't die no, but it will get hurt, a lot. And to be honest, you are not helping with this thread, you are just firing everyone up to complain more. If you want the complaining to stop, don't be part of the problem (making topics for them to complain on) be part of the salution (stay quiet and wait for people to chill out a little)

Destyran · April 2017

The death knight almost did kill the game tho??

thebattlesaintb14_ESO · April 2017

On that Note, why don't you go in the corner, rock back and forth and suck your thumb, noob.

It's not Stampocalypse.

I main a Stamblade, so Templars crying is nothing to me.

So theres changes. Are the potential changes we are experiencing in the beta set in stone? No. It's a playtest for a reason you freaking drama queens,

ScooberSteve wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!

It didn't.

2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

It didn't.

3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

Guess what...it didn't.

4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

Nope, didnt die.

5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

And...it didnt

6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

Of course it didn't.

Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

[snip]

guess what, the game wont die.

[Edit title and content for baiting]

Are you joking you have played since march? You have no standing here let the big boys do the talking

Banana · April 2017

rockyracoon13 · April 2017

This game is taking a big hit if they go live with this update.

StackonClown · April 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

To be fair, blizzard has devs who display common sense and actually play their own games. Not sure the same can be said of zenimax

A little common sense and some looking around places like twitter and twitch, and you'd know that ZOS devs play ESO.

They may play for fun - but they make changes for $$$ - anyway I'm over it - Im gonna buy it, roll a warden and move on!

t3hdubzy · April 2017

Tldr

stevesherpa · April 2017

t3hdubzy wrote: »

Tldr

tldr = attention span of a gnat and intelligence of a toaster.

Balamoor · April 2017

The more nonsense and hysterical cliff jumping I see on these forums the more I'm convinced that only subscribers should be al

Banana wrote: »

Lucy Lawless was such a Badass......

Qbiken · April 2017

The complains ain´t about adding warden to the game, people are fine with that. The problem is that zos is killing classes by nerfing/removing the things that makes them unique.

stevesherpa · April 2017

Qbiken wrote: »

The complains ain´t about adding warden to the game, people are fine with that. The problem is that zos is killing classes by nerfing/removing the things that makes them unique.

It doesnt matter what ZOS does, these whiny little entitled-trophy-for-participation millennials were born and bred to complain.

Glamdring · April 2017

OP pls tell me how i can solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds on live?

Huyen · April 2017

gard wrote: »

stevesherpa wrote: »

Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!

It didn't.

2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

It didn't.

3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

Guess what...it didn't.

4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

Nope, didnt die.

5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

And...it didnt

6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

Of course it didn't.

Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

[snip]

guess what, the game wont die.

No one really cares about your vast MMO experience. Irrelevant here.

Have you played PTS? If not, your opinion has the substance of a popcorn fart.
That goes for anyone posting on here about update 14 changes who have not played on PTS.

You seem to fail to see why its called PTS aka "Public TEST realm". As they are testing it with the crowd they can make more changes if deemed needed by the community. The OP has a valid point. After 10 years of WoW (and every damn expansion) the rants are all the same. First week: "WTF? They ruined everything!" After one month: "Heh, its not so bad after all". The reason people are quitting WoW is because WoW doesnt grow with the current demand (better and more realistic combat and graphics). WoW is turning into a kids game instead of what the ES games did and still do: provide a mature enviroment, and quests with adult jokes.

altemriel · April 2017

ZOS changes the system a lot now in June, so what??

do you still love the game? -> adapt, or leave, or leave constructive feeback and hope you get heard (of course not everyone can be satisfied)

it is as simple as that

Mjollo · April 2017

I don't know why anyone would ever use WoW as a standpoint in their argument. A dying game coughing in the shadow of it's former glory, really. I don't agree with the changes they made but as a player, you're supposed to give feedback and suggestions about the current balance changes. Not QQ about and then wait for the same changes to go live. ZOS always makes drastic changes when they shouldn't but it's up to the community to help point them in the right direction.

lightsidejedi · April 2017

I pay every month 14.99, I buy crowns, I have all the DLC's, I have 8 characters and two slots open ready for the Warden. We can complain as much of we want that's what customers do, we have the right to say that we are not happy and cry as much as we want. I'm paying and I'm not happy and I want to say it out loud.

I was the one saying yeah nerfs are good to balance the game but these changes sound like they are preparing the game to make the Warden awesome and other classes useless so people will spend more money and that's what business do I understand it, but they should have respect for the players that spend days of their life and that paid to support the game to make it grow for all these years. Is all that I want some consideration.

ScooberSteve · April 2017

altemriel wrote: »

ZOS changes the system a lot now in June, so what??

do you still love the game? -> adapt, or leave, or leave constructive feeback and hope you get heard (of course not everyone can be satisfied)

it is as simple as that

Adapt or leave? Third option complain like hell for the next 6 weeks until patch notes are finalized. Lets change their minds!

starlizard70ub17_ESO · April 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?

27, but who's really counting...