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You all need to calm down over morrowind/patch

stevesherpa
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Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!


It didn't.

2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

It didn't.

3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

Guess what...it didn't.

4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

Nope, didnt die.

5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

And...it didnt

6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

Of course it didn't.


Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

[snip]

guess what, the game wont die.

[Edit title and content for baiting]
Edited by ZOS_Bill on April 20, 2017 3:04PM
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  • Cadbury
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    Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Yo dawg. I heard you like complaining.
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  • Dracindo
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    Agreed. I like to see less Morrowind ranting and more useless polls again.
    Edited by Dracindo on April 20, 2017 2:23PM
  • David_Zarn
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    WoW sub base went down from 17 mil to 7 mil, yeah, OF COURSE all those expansions didn't killed it, it had just too big player/fun base. Lineage 2, which was great MMO as well, died after they chose same direction as WoW did, guess why? They didn't had such big fun base.

    P.S. No, ESO will not die, at least from Morrowind and from nerfing templars, opposite to this, it will bring more players into game.
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  • LiquidPony
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    These bait posts are my favorite.

    Cool WoW story bro!
  • Majic
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    Prediction: Posts laden with condescension, insults, capitalized words and implied profanity won't actually get people to CALM the F down.
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  • White wabbit
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    I'm guessing all pc games I think consoles players are a bit more fickle
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    OP uses the AOL of MMOs as an example. Can't take seriously.

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  • jlboozer
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    Stop complaining about me complaining, and this isn't WoW so stop trying to build yourself up as some all knowing MMO guru that feels the need to tell the world how to react to things...with all due respect, good day sir!
  • koralr33fer
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    Ya someone is not playing a stamina build or a Templar healer. Id be calm too if I wasn't...they destroyed my 3 year old char with this update.
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    Could read past, I played WOW so I know everything about MMO's.

    But, yeah we can wait as see, if the trend of 90% of PTS continues, if the Warden ends up being forced on us. Sometimes, the sky is falling, regardless if you want to look up or not.
  • DHale
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    I have played daily for over three years so I will certainly *** if I want to. That said, this is the worst patch ever in this game with no exceptions. I have 2 or more of every class combo so I will adapt. But 90 percent of this stuff should never go live. The only people that are not worried are people who don't do anything challenging and the casuals which granted may have a fair amount of crossover.
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  • gard
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    Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

    I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

    1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!


    It didn't.

    2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

    It didn't.

    3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

    Guess what...it didn't.

    4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

    Nope, didnt die.

    5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

    And...it didnt

    6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

    Of course it didn't.


    Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

    [snip]

    guess what, the game wont die.

    No one really cares about your vast MMO experience. Irrelevant here.

    Have you played PTS? If not, your opinion has the substance of a popcorn fart.
    That goes for anyone posting on here about update 14 changes who have not played on PTS.

    Edited by ZOS_Bill on April 20, 2017 3:05PM
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    I giggled. Better then I thought it would be.
  • White wabbit
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    gard wrote: »
    Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

    I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

    1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!


    It didn't.

    2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

    It didn't.

    3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

    Guess what...it didn't.

    4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

    Nope, didnt die.

    5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

    And...it didnt

    6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

    Of course it didn't.


    Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

    [snip]

    guess what, the game wont die.

    No one really cares about your vast MMO experience. Irrelevant here.

    Have you played PTS? If not, your opinion has the substance of a popcorn fart.
    That goes for anyone posting on here about update 14 changes who have not played on PTS.



    Well since I'm on console and don't have access to pts ill moan about that instead then
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on April 20, 2017 3:05PM
  • Moloch1514
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    I'm calmer than you are, Dude. ;)
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    Now im tempted to switch over platforms, the only thing that is stopping me is the 1000s of pounds worth of content I have brought on the ps4 ):

    Technically the warden is being forced on players to play/buy because they are going to have the advantage until everyone gets bored of them and goes back to their original characters, then another patch will release buffing everyone back to normal again.

    On the good side Duchess Personality was fixes ;)
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  • Drachenfier
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    David_Zarn wrote: »
    Lineage 2, which was great MMO as well, died after they chose same direction as WoW did, guess why? They didn't had such big fun base.

    Lineage 2 is still huge in the East. It died in the West for the same reason it was never very popular in the West - The grind was ridiculous. It could have been a massive success if they had simply tailored it for the Western market, but they refused to do so. It was never anything more than a niche game here. I played it for five years :)
    Edited by Drachenfier on April 20, 2017 2:43PM
  • Glamdring
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    stevesherpa?!?! who is this guy? he seems like an all knowing guy, i want to get to know him.
  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    WoW, such story
    Much long, Wow.

    Complain is are a bad boi, kiddo.


    I am very happy about Morrowind as I got around 100 divine Necro items and geeeeeeeeet ready :smiley:

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    The forum should be called drama land, trolls heaven.
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    akl77 wrote: »
    The forum should be called drama land, trolls heaven.

    I have a better name: Little 4chan
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  • QUEZ420
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    gard wrote: »
    Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

    I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

    1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!


    It didn't.

    2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

    It didn't.

    3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

    Guess what...it didn't.

    4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

    Nope, didnt die.

    5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

    And...it didnt

    6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

    Of course it didn't.


    Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

    In fact, what all of you crying about this need to do is go into Cyrodiil find one of our factions keeps, go check out a lumbermill.....go get some wood....Now, go back to your river of tears, use that wood to build a bridge and get over it.

    guess what, the game wont die.

    No one really cares about your vast MMO experience. Irrelevant here.

    Have you played PTS? If not, your opinion has the substance of a popcorn fart.
    That goes for anyone posting on here about update 14 changes who have not played on PTS.

    Couldn't of said it better myself.
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    To be fair, blizzard has devs who display common sense and actually play their own games. Not sure the same can be said of zenimax
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  • Argawarga
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Anyone wanna keep a running tally on how many topics we see about complaining and complaining about complaining?

    Complaining is the new meta. Did you not read the potes?
  • Argawarga
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    To be fair, blizzard has devs who display common sense and actually play their own games. Not sure the same can be said of zenimax

    Blizzard is also absurdly rich, while ZOS is like the awkward stepchild of the Zenimax/Bethesda family.
  • ScooberSteve
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    So they nerf every class give warden literally every buff under the sun and nerf sustain into the ground. Worst patch ever. Making warden op is one thing but nerfing ever class to make it op is another. Sustain needed to be nerfed but they are sending us back to the stoneage and taking away all classes unique abilities except for warden
  • ScooberSteve
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    I have played pts and the amout of buffs warden has is a joke
  • ScooberSteve
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    Either many of you never have been through an MMO's major patch/expansion release, or you all have very bad memories.

    I played a lot of year on World of Warcraft and every single expansion it was:

    1) From vanilla WoW to Burning Crusade - "Oh my god, the Dranei and Blood Elves will ruin everything! Game will die!


    It didn't.

    2) From Burning Crusades to Wrath of the Lich King - "Oh my god the Death Knights will be sooo OP and all of these other classes meaningless....Game will die"

    It didn't.

    3) From Wrath to Cataclysm - "Oh my god, the change of the landscape is going to kill the game...Game will die"

    Guess what...it didn't.

    4) From Cataclysm to Panderia - "Oh my god, the panda race will kill the game...game will die."

    Nope, didnt die.

    5) From Panderia to Warlords of Dreanor - "Oh my god, having garrisons (think homestead), will kill the game...Game will die"

    And...it didnt

    6) Then Dreanor to Legion - "OH mty god, demon hunter class will kill the game...yada yada yada"

    Of course it didn't.


    Nor will Morrowind kill ESO. It will expand it. And you WANT to attract new players - why? Because people spending money keeps the game alive. Remember, ZOS doesnt exist to serve us, they are a company, they want to make money...they do so off of a service called entertainment, which, most of us, are entertained. And to stay entertained, things have to change. So you get rebalanced? re-learn. Re-spec. It keeps things interesting. QQ because you can't one shot people when you gank...or solo a bet dungeon in 60 seconds.

    [snip]

    guess what, the game wont die.

    [Edit title and content for baiting]

    Are you joking you have played since march? You have no standing here let the big boys do the talking
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