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Better start farming VMA hard!
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VMA is going to be much more difficult after this next patch. I think everyone needs to start farming it hard starting now! ZOS really needs to make the drops better if VMA is going to be that more difficult.
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jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
DPS = 25k+ for the DK and 30k+ for the sorc on the target dummy with no outside help. There are other builds/rotations out there that can do more than mine.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
However.... stamina builds might be fairly screwed (again)
I have a redguard stam sorc that i was starting to use in vma - with 5 VO i never had to worry about resources.... guess we will see how that one goes now since all the skills cost more and cost reduction died/regen nerfed.CP690
Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
PS4 - DC
vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless
My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=11 -
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✭jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?7 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Agreed, enough with the B.S1 -
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✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
My magdk has recorded a 545k score doing a heavy attack build. It's stupid easy.PC Master Race
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Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
he means maelstrom scores lol, not dps6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Lmao. As @Sheva I 7 I said, they're talking about score. Not DPS. I don't even think someone has let alone broken into the 60k DPS region yet. ALTHOUGH! I could be mistaken, as apparently someone has broken into the 600k score region with a mag build. I've yet to see it on console, but supposedly on PC-NA someone has done it. So who knows?
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jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
he means maelstrom scores lol, not dps
I should have been more direct... i assumed everyone knew what 500k would have meant... especially since i already said my average self-buffed dps.
500k + is a vma score.
EDIT: Not that you need 500k to hit the leaderboard with a DK... someone got a weekly reward with a score of 384 points last week. Not 384k.... 384 points total.Edited by jakeedmundson on April 18, 2017 1:14PMCP690
Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
PS4 - DC
vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless
My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=11 -
Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Lmao. As @Sheva I 7 I said, they're talking about score. Not DPS. I don't even think someone has let alone broken into the 60k DPS region yet. ALTHOUGH! I could be mistaken, as apparently someone has broken into the 600k score region with a mag build. I've yet to see it on console, but supposedly on PC-NA someone has done it. So who knows?
High 40s is max you can hit self buff, with crappy cheese setup that you won't use anywhere. Dummy isn't a dungeon monster so wearing moondancer is a damage loss, but hey necropotance+willpower+charged lighting staff on backbar+pet (not usable on lots of trial bosses at all) will give you those numbers.0 -
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✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Lmao. As @Sheva I 7 I said, they're talking about score. Not DPS. I don't even think someone has let alone broken into the 60k DPS region yet. ALTHOUGH! I could be mistaken, as apparently someone has broken into the 600k score region with a mag build. I've yet to see it on console, but supposedly on PC-NA someone has done it. So who knows?
High 40s is max you can hit self buff, with crappy cheese setup that you won't use anywhere. Dummy isn't a dungeon monster so wearing moondancer is a damage loss, but hey necropotance+willpower+charged lighting staff on backbar+pet (not usable on lots of trial bosses at all) will give you those numbers.
Minor Slayer is supposed to work on the dummy, does it not?BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA2 -
Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Lmao. As @Sheva I 7 I said, they're talking about score. Not DPS. I don't even think someone has let alone broken into the 60k DPS region yet. ALTHOUGH! I could be mistaken, as apparently someone has broken into the 600k score region with a mag build. I've yet to see it on console, but supposedly on PC-NA someone has done it. So who knows?
High 40s is max you can hit self buff, with crappy cheese setup that you won't use anywhere. Dummy isn't a dungeon monster so wearing moondancer is a damage loss, but hey necropotance+willpower+charged lighting staff on backbar+pet (not usable on lots of trial bosses at all) will give you those numbers.
Minor Slayer is supposed to work on the dummy, does it not?
I pull 36.7k with moondancer (gold)
37.9k with willpower (purple) (did 5 tests so its an avg)
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Dasovaruilos✭✭✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
Lmao. As @Sheva I 7 I said, they're talking about score. Not DPS. I don't even think someone has let alone broken into the 60k DPS region yet. ALTHOUGH! I could be mistaken, as apparently someone has broken into the 600k score region with a mag build. I've yet to see it on console, but supposedly on PC-NA someone has done it. So who knows?
High 40s is max you can hit self buff, with crappy cheese setup that you won't use anywhere. Dummy isn't a dungeon monster so wearing moondancer is a damage loss, but hey necropotance+willpower+charged lighting staff on backbar+pet (not usable on lots of trial bosses at all) will give you those numbers.
Minor Slayer is supposed to work on the dummy, does it not?
I think he meant when alone, on a test dummy, you won't have synergies to proc Moondancer's damage bonus... That is what I understood of it.0 -
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✭I have a friend that is gonna charge 2m per run after this
I guess trials carry will cost 10-20M now Edited by Kay1 on April 18, 2017 2:04PMK1 The Big Monkey1 -
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✭Not harder, just longer.
People have beaten it without high CP or with regen armour low DPS builds before.
You realize this game is special right?
Everyone becomes worst every patch note, back in time I was able to do vmsa with blue weapons without dying on my magsorc but it doesn't mean I can do it now.K1 The Big Monkey0 -
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You probably could, it would just take you longer. I mean there is only what one area which is an actual DPS race right? And most people blitz that in seconds with the current builds.Not harder, just longer.
People have beaten it without high CP or with regen armour low DPS builds before.
You realize this game is special right?
Everyone becomes worst every patch note, back in time I was able to do vmsa with blue weapons without dying on my magsorc but it doesn't mean I can do it now.
People need to stop declaring that all content is dead the day after the notes go live and actually log in and test. Try vMSA with sustain gear and see if it's actually harder or just longer.
Funny how all the threads about how Maelstrom weapons dropping in normal mode are "GUT GUD" "L2P ISSUE!" "PLAYER SKILLS!" but as soon as it might involve some extra effort it's "IMPOSSIBLE!" "CAN'T BE DONE!".
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You probably could, it would just take you longer. I mean there is only what one area which is an actual DPS race right? And most people blitz that in seconds with the current builds.Not harder, just longer.
People have beaten it without high CP or with regen armour low DPS builds before.
You realize this game is special right?
Everyone becomes worst every patch note, back in time I was able to do vmsa with blue weapons without dying on my magsorc but it doesn't mean I can do it now.
People need to stop declaring that all content is dead the day after the notes go live and actually log in and test. Try vMSA with sustain gear and see if it's actually harder or just longer.
Funny how all the threads about how Maelstrom weapons dropping in normal mode are "GUT GUD" "L2P ISSUE!" "PLAYER SKILLS!" but as soon as it might involve some extra effort it's "IMPOSSIBLE!" "CAN'T BE DONE!".
It will be harder. For example, the last stage, every time you have to go down from DPSing the crystals, you have to fight a crem guard and a clanfear. Any mistake on a crem fight is death. Most people can do crystals in 1 or maybe 2 goes, meaning less crem fights, and less fights with low margin of error.
Same with many fights in the game, vMA and otherwise. for example Worldshaper in vSO HM. One bad worldshaper can wipe the group since there is little margin of error. Having to do 30 worldshapers instead of 15 greatly increases the chance of a bad result. Many mechanics right now are extremely unforgiving, an most people are not robots who do it perfectly 100/100 times.1 -
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✭jakeedmundson wrote: »Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
he means maelstrom scores lol, not dps
I should have been more direct... i assumed everyone knew what 500k would have meant... especially since i already said my average self-buffed dps.
500k + is a vma score.
EDIT: Not that you need 500k to hit the leaderboard with a DK... someone got a weekly reward with a score of 384 points last week. Not 384k.... 384 points total.
And that's not saying enough? Zos wants to damage a class that gets a vma leaderboard score of 300. Makes perfect sense.0 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »Sheva I 7 I wrote: »stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »I've been using heavy attack builds for my mag dk and mag sorc.... Look up those types of builds and get farming for the gear.
I can hit 500k + on both classes with a heavy attack build. No sustain issues at all. Worst case is i'll have to actually manage my dots after morrowind.
500k just no...no you did not...are your pants on fire yet?
he means maelstrom scores lol, not dps
I should have been more direct... i assumed everyone knew what 500k would have meant... especially since i already said my average self-buffed dps.
500k + is a vma score.
EDIT: Not that you need 500k to hit the leaderboard with a DK... someone got a weekly reward with a score of 384 points last week. Not 384k.... 384 points total.
And that's not saying enough? Zos wants to damage a class that gets a vma leaderboard score of 300. Makes perfect sense.
ha well the person only got a reward because the 100 spots didn't fill up for the weekly. Could have been his/her first completion and maybe it took 3 or 4 hours.CP690
Lv 50 Dunmer DragonKnight Tank/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Sorcerer Dps
Lv 50 Breton Templar Healer/Dps
Lv 50 Altmer Nightblade Dps
Lv 50 Redguard Sorcerer Dps
PS4 - DC
vSOHM - vAAHM - vHRC - vMA Flawless
My version of a Heavy Attack Sorc build
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/294724/magicka-sorc-heavy-attack-build-homestead-ready/p1?new=10 -
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✭Don't really care about score, just like doing it in an hour and half or so. Will be a chore after patch, just drop my sharp staff so I never have to go back is all I need now.0 -
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✭✭No sharp weapon ever except Restro..
Thanks to ZOS for not giving me Inferno Sharpen0 -
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✭good - it was getting too easy. good players wanted a challenge- now we ve got it. 600cp outscaled vma long ago- the power creep and dps creep just melted most stages- look at any vma video by a decent player above 500cp and it was a joke. its why people keep saying you just need to learn the mechanics - because resource management, health management, rotation judgements- were no longer relevant. now we can get back to the way it was when vma first came out- where it required skill. as someone who has completed it ( on a most classes now) , farmed it (unsuccessfully) I'm looking forward to being challenged again with the new patches.
and keep in mind- the changes are only tests- thats what theyre their for- so a company will tend to go all left or right with a decision- in order to test the boundaries then swing back to the middle. so those that are worried about content or classes being harder- dont worry- it ll swing back to the norm soon enough. and those that make the classes like templar harder - are great. anyone thats duelled a magplar - a good one-and seen them press one button to full health every 10 seconds knows its a joke. while other classes have to dodge roll, buff, mitigate damage- do so much work to stay in a duel. magplar was too easy. now hopefully it ll be engaging- like the warden will be. the game was getting boring and stale. dungeons with end gamers was boring and just a melt fest. i rerolled a second account just to be challenged again- but with the 2xp events- I'm back to 300cp and starting to find content easy. sure i could walk around in prosperous gear- but i want the game to be challenging with top end gear. these are good things.0 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭I'm not complaining about the difficulty change, I'm saying a token system should be implemented as its becoming harder. I must have run it 30 times now without a single destro drop.I know some people have done it hundreds of times without one.0
I want this. I'll slap engine guardian and du it.