To all the people who are already mad about the Morrowind patch...
AlienatedGoat
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Chill out.
Seriously.
The PTS exists for a reason, you know? If you have a serious problem with one of the changes in the patch notes, go ahead and let ZOS know why and how. But maybe try to be constructive about it?
Put the brakes on the quit threads, the RIP threads, and the you've-ruined-the-game threads.
At least give the PTS team a chance to adjust their plans before you go Full Drama Mode™. I mean, c'mon...the beta just started.
Just because it's in the patch notes doesn't mean it'll make it into the final product, so do yourself a favor and calm down.
It's going to be OK. Just BREATHE.
Seriously.
The PTS exists for a reason, you know? If you have a serious problem with one of the changes in the patch notes, go ahead and let ZOS know why and how. But maybe try to be constructive about it?
Put the brakes on the quit threads, the RIP threads, and the you've-ruined-the-game threads.
At least give the PTS team a chance to adjust their plans before you go Full Drama Mode™. I mean, c'mon...the beta just started.
Just because it's in the patch notes doesn't mean it'll make it into the final product, so do yourself a favor and calm down.
It's going to be OK. Just BREATHE.
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✭✭✭✭No! The sky is falling, servers will shut down, Bethesda will never recover from this!! EVERYONE PANIC!
/sarcasmGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 506 -
alephthiago✭✭✭✭✭Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
*** kitty AD Stamblade
Paarthurnax's Will AD Magicka DK
agnar cracked skull EP Magicka DK (veteran dragonstar arena bot)
Klogi Mugdul AD Stamina DK
Savre Selranni AD Magicka Sorc (being polished)
Avenar Lolhealing AD Magicka Templar (being polished)15 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭I setup my mag sorc as close as possible to pts cp wise, 4 or 5 rotations totally oom. (Not using pots, although that would only give 1 or 2 more rotations at best i believe)
I had extra cost reduction and regen from light armour passivex and extra regen from magic steal than i would have on pts.
Even using my heavy attack build i noticed significant magicka depletion.
From first impressions heavy attack builds will temain somewhat viable. Typical builds are pretty much RIPPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
My TribeEU
High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
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Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
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AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭alephthiago wrote: »Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.
That's no different from any other game, so complaining about it changes exactly zilch.
The whole reason the beta is closed with an NDA this time is so that ZOS can get the most quality feedback possible. If you want to contribute to that feedback, the best way is to participate in the beta, if you can. If not, then make constructive feedback outside of the beta.
The key here is to actually contribute in a meaningful manner.
SO the angry people can choose to either rage and see nothing come of their angry threads, or they can choose to at least try to give ZOS something they can use in the way of constructive feedback. It's a tough choice, I'm sure.
Oh wait...
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reesenorman✭✭✭Every time theirs new stuff on the pts, people give quality feedback but Zos still don't listen. I don't see what's going to be different this time around.Mundus Core
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✭✭reesenorman wrote: »Every time theirs new stuff on the pts, people give quality feedback but Zos still don't listen. I don't see what's going to be different this time around.
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh all the complaining and 'I quit' threads are typical, it happens every major patch when there are significant changes. Yet, those same players who threatened to quit are still here and those who left were replaced by new players who knew nothing of what the game 'use to be'.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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✭✭✭✭✭alephthiago wrote: »Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.
THIS 100x. Do we really have to have a "ITS JUST A TEST" post every patch cycle. "Just wait and see" is not an effective strategy for a company that doesn't reverse bad decisions unless there is a complete uproar.
Either way its kind of fun seeing people react to all the nerfs. Most of that stuff has been nerfed before. Battle roar, nerfed before. Redguard. nerfed before.
It's time to admit the POWER CREEP caused by the disgusting champeon system is killing the game and the only solution is to remove it, spit on it's memory and re-instate smarter attribute controls (like softcaps).3 -
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✭✭✭✭Its the same EVERY SINGLE PATCH.
Notes come out, everyone freaks out
Patch goes live
People play it
People get used to it
People decide 'its not so bad'
People carry on as always...
I mean just look at the outrage on proc sets... Do people still use them? Yes. Are they still in every build? No(good for diversity). Does everyone still complain about being killed by rng? No.. At the end of the day - ZOS were right.Edited by Biro123 on April 18, 2017 9:08AMMinalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Let people read the notes and come to their own conclusions.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »alephthiago wrote: »Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.
THIS 100x. Do we really have to have a "ITS JUST A TEST" post every patch cycle. "Just wait and see" is not an effective strategy for a company that doesn't reverse bad decisions unless there is a complete uproar.
Either way its kind of fun seeing people react to all the nerfs. Most of that stuff has been nerfed before. Battle roar, nerfed before. Redguard. nerfed before.
It's time to admit the POWER CREEP caused by the disgusting champeon system is killing the game and the only solution is to remove it, spit on it's memory and re-instate smarter attribute controls (like softcaps).
The only thing I'm going to admit is that unless the content is changed to suit, and it wont, this game dosent want my money.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Let people read the notes and come to their own conclusions.
Free thought.
Those conclusions though usually result in the ESO Doomsday cult and habitual quitters coming out, most from the console portion of the game where they don't have the PTS to test this stuff out.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 500 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
ZOS MADE ESO HARDER
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
ZOS MADE ESO HARDER
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
Damn... The changes are so extreme, that they done went and broke @Turelus now. See what you did ZOS? Now we have to go and re-install Turelus.exe now.
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I think Turelus.exe has been broken for a while now, not sure a reinstall can actually work.MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
MAKE ESO HARDER!
ZOS MADE ESO HARDER
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
OMFG MORONS BROKE GAME RIP ESO UNSUBBING!
Damn... The changes are so extreme, that they done went and broke Turelus now. See what you did ZOS? Now we have to go and re-install Turelus.exe now.
I do enjoy my forums drama though! It was getting a bit dull the last weeks, now I can see everyone crying about changes again and tell them to "adapt or die" or "HTFU"
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Let people read the notes and come to their own conclusions.
Free thought.
Those conclusions though usually result in the ESO Doomsday cult and habitual quitters coming out, most from the console portion of the game where they don't have the PTS to test this stuff out.
I have the PTS to test stuff out and I'm done with this game.
Let people make their own decisions, your not your brothers keeper.2 -
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✭✭I thinks its time for me to also say "I Quit"
Being a big fan of Elder Scroll its very hard for me to go away from such a beautiful game.
I will try not to quit till this nerf bomb blasted!2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Let people read the notes and come to their own conclusions.
Free thought.
Those conclusions though usually result in the ESO Doomsday cult and habitual quitters coming out, most from the console portion of the game where they don't have the PTS to test this stuff out.
I have the PTS to test stuff out and I'm done with this game.
Let people make their own decisions, your not your brothers keeper.
@Doctordarkspawn Bruh, you are easily 1 of my favorite posters on these forums. I swear you be telling straight facts and the truth. Take this strong +1, fam'. Keep telling it like it is.
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✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Let people read the notes and come to their own conclusions.
Free thought.
Those conclusions though usually result in the ESO Doomsday cult and habitual quitters coming out, most from the console portion of the game where they don't have the PTS to test this stuff out.
I have the PTS to test stuff out and I'm done with this game.
Let people make their own decisions, your not your brothers keeper.
@Doctordarkspawn Bruh, you are easily 1 of my favorite posters on these forums. I swear you be telling straight facts and the truth. Take this strong +1, fam'. Keep telling it like it is.
I try.
Though to be honest this may be the last time I -do- post. I paid for a game and I'm no longer able to play it how I want to. RIP.0 -
Splattercat_83✭✭✭✭lunalitetempler wrote: »Changes are good, LTP.
It's not LTP, it's you can't sustain for crap and put any descent damage out. They have broke the game.2 -
Splattercat_83✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »alephthiago wrote: »Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.
THIS 100x. Do we really have to have a "ITS JUST A TEST" post every patch cycle. "Just wait and see" is not an effective strategy for a company that doesn't reverse bad decisions unless there is a complete uproar.
Either way its kind of fun seeing people react to all the nerfs. Most of that stuff has been nerfed before. Battle roar, nerfed before. Redguard. nerfed before.
It's time to admit the POWER CREEP caused by the disgusting champeon system is killing the game and the only solution is to remove it, spit on it's memory and re-instate smarter attribute controls (like softcaps).
How was out killing the game, I can run naked with no gear on and take out all my cp and still nuke overland crap, trials were fine, it wasn't a Struggle but it was challenging trying to get a good score. The lazy asses at zenimax aren't coming up with original content other than 2 dungeons, and a new trial in 2 years. Instead they scale up the dungeons with this stupid normal, I,II ***, and the trials got scaled up. The one trial they did put out don't even work. Now they go and break everyone character. *** them.Edited by Splattercat_83 on April 18, 2017 9:49AM2 -
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✭Can someone list the biggest changes? I have already been told that there will be multiple nerfs. Yes I am a bit lazy about this and certainly feel entitled to have my answer. Sorry for this but if the changes hit roll dodge or s&b they are welcomed. Warden is gonna hit big. #No sorc nerfs#A is for Atronach.
B is for Bungler's Bane.
C is for Comberry.0 -
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This, pst is not for balancing and player feedback, its to try to find bug and generate hype.alephthiago wrote: »Maybe its because we know they have very limited resources and ~70% of the stuff ends up on live anyway?
This is my 6th patch and we all know how things work, one or other skill ends up being changed but in general changes and bugs go to live.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭So you're completely unfamiliar with how ZOS rarely makes any big changes from PTS to game patch?
No chill.4
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