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[Video] LeifyEric DW Magicka Sorc Outnumbered PvP

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  • Lord_Hev
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    I sensed the will of Hskbrt flow through you at one point in the video.


    Also, noice dawnbreakers. Eyyyy
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  • SanTii.92
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    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<
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    Good stuff as always!
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    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    Great video! Gj brother sorc!
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    Awesome fights Leif! That sorc looks like fun.
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  • Subversus
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    It's always so triggering when there's a magdk in an Xv1 group that spams talons. Dude is already beating on a single guy with his friends, better use one of the cuntiest abilities in game as well you know just to add that extra flavor of "I'm a little ***"... :rage:


    Anyways I always enjoy watching your videos, nicely done.
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    Nice vid! Actually fighting solid player, unlike most 1vX videos where ppl beat up tyros most of the time.
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    I sensed the will of Hskbrt flow through you at one point in the video.


    Also, noice dawnbreakers. Eyyyy

    The great one Hskbrt flows through every mag sorc in its time of need.
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    Yep that's pretty much it. However, against good opponents and players who know how to counter the build, you have to be much more creative than that.
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying people who play DW are better than people who don't? Because to me DW is often easier to play than staff.
    Edit: nevermind, I get it now. Other than full tank builds, I don't think there is anyone that I just can't kill.
    Subversus wrote: »
    It's always so triggering when there's a magdk in an Xv1 group that spams talons. Dude is already beating on a single guy with his friends, better use one of the cuntiest abilities in game as well you know just to add that extra flavor of "I'm a little ***"... :rage:


    Anyways I always enjoy watching your videos, nicely done.

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    Edited by LeifErickson on April 15, 2017 5:09PM
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    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.
    Edited by Minalan on April 15, 2017 5:04PM
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    Yeah, I am still surprised to see people do this much damage with a stamina ulti. I can only imagine the old mag version...
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Yep I definitely agree. I have beaten and lost to some of the best players on NA PC in a duel with this build including stamina templars and magicka nightblades which are hard matchups in my opinion. I think a magdk in the hands of a top tier player with a good build has the potential to never lose to this build and full dot flurry builds also can be a hard matchup, but I think there is room for outplaying any of these matchups with this build.
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    Enjoy this stuff bud keep it up
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    Been playing DW sorc the past for nights for the first time in a long while. Forgot how challenging it can be at times, but when you figure out your movement groove, it is fun times ahead.

    Great craic Leify, some great combos there, always an entertaining video with your name on it.

    Best part: That dude rolling into all your mines behind the tree and near dieing without you engaging them.
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  • Lord_Hev
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    Yeah, I am still surprised to see people do this much damage with a stamina ulti. I can only imagine the old mag version...

    I use to land 15k hits on non vamps, and cure vampirism with 20k+ hits. Those were the days...
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    Yeah, I am still surprised to see people do this much damage with a stamina ulti. I can only imagine the old mag version...

    I use to land 15k hits on non vamps, and cure vampirism with 20k+ hits. Those were the days...

    Yeees, nirn dual swords and trapping webs to proc frags... and curing vampirism with empowered dawnbreaker.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.



    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me.

    i have never seen a low damage and unable to survive sorcerer.
    here is yet again another video showing the overpowered class of sorcerer in eso.
    Edited by Gilvoth on April 15, 2017 8:10PM
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.



    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me.

    i have never seen a low damage and unable to survive sorcerer.
    here is yet again another video showing the overpowered class of sorcerer in eso.

    Ya. Nerf sorc.
    Edit: but actually though, mag sorc probably does need a nerf. Top tier in all aspects of pvp, not much else to say. It might be best to nerf pirate skeleton first and see how the class is from there but I'm not even using that set, so there is probably more to it than that.
    Edited by LeifErickson on April 15, 2017 8:27PM
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.



    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me.

    i have never seen a low damage and unable to survive sorcerer.
    here is yet again another video showing the overpowered class of sorcerer in eso.

    Ya. Nerf sorc.
    Edit: but actually though, mag sorc probably does need a nerf. Top tier in all aspects of pvp, not much else to say. It might be best to nerf pirate skeleton first and see how the class is from there but I'm not even using that set, so there is probably more to it than that.


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  • Subversus
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Now imagine dueling a pet sorc with that magicka pool (more actually but let's leave that aside :D )... Not only the shield is literally untouchable but the pressure from 2 pets with curse, vma staff lightning wall of elements, infernal and constant frags is just too much. Though it does require a lot of good micromanagement so I guess it has a high skill cap. It's funny when people try it at first and get decimated cause they forget to heal/shield their pets hahaha
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Now imagine dueling a pet sorc with that magicka pool (more actually but let's leave that aside :D )... Not only the shield is literally untouchable but the pressure from 2 pets with curse, vma staff lightning wall of elements, infernal and constant frags is just too much. Though it does require a lot of good micromanagement so I guess it has a high skill cap. It's funny when people try it at first and get decimated cause they forget to heal/shield their pets hahaha

    Sounds like a sustain battery for me, they'll have waaaaaay more pressure but you catch them with the shields down and they melt.

    I'm not saying pet sorc isn't the strongest magika dueling spec in the game, just that I feel like DW mag sorc has the tool to counter most magika classes OR force a stalemate.

    If its a sorc duel with no harness I think killing a pet sorc in a necro build requires you to be drastically more skilled, but with harness you can basically force a draw at worst against any magika build as long as you manage your stamina and are ultra careful babysitting your shield stack.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on April 15, 2017 9:36PM
  • Subversus
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Now imagine dueling a pet sorc with that magicka pool (more actually but let's leave that aside :D )... Not only the shield is literally untouchable but the pressure from 2 pets with curse, vma staff lightning wall of elements, infernal and constant frags is just too much. Though it does require a lot of good micromanagement so I guess it has a high skill cap. It's funny when people try it at first and get decimated cause they forget to heal/shield their pets hahaha

    Sounds like a sustain battery for me, they'll have waaaaaay more pressure but you catch them with the shields down and they melt.

    I'm not saying pet sorc isn't the strongest magika dueling spec in the game, just that I feel like DW mag sorc has the tool to counter most magika classes OR force a stalemate.

    If its a sorc duel with no harness I think killing a pet sorc in a necro build requires you to be drastically more skilled, but with harness you can basically force a draw at worst against any magika build as long as you manage your stamina and are ultra careful babysitting your shield stack.

    There's this sorc on EU, she has 0 sustain issues. She has dueled some guys with insane pressure and claims to never have gotten under 90% mag. Using ele drain, though she does complain about the changes this patch affecting that sustain. She also runs 1 shield haha, albeit one insanely huge shield but still... think she can count on one hand the people that beat her 1v1 during this past year lol, stupid op class in the right hands. :(
  • Minalan
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Now imagine dueling a pet sorc with that magicka pool (more actually but let's leave that aside :D )... Not only the shield is literally untouchable but the pressure from 2 pets with curse, vma staff lightning wall of elements, infernal and constant frags is just too much. Though it does require a lot of good micromanagement so I guess it has a high skill cap. It's funny when people try it at first and get decimated cause they forget to heal/shield their pets hahaha

    Sounds like a sustain battery for me, they'll have waaaaaay more pressure but you catch them with the shields down and they melt.

    I'm not saying pet sorc isn't the strongest magika dueling spec in the game, just that I feel like DW mag sorc has the tool to counter most magika classes OR force a stalemate.

    If its a sorc duel with no harness I think killing a pet sorc in a necro build requires you to be drastically more skilled, but with harness you can basically force a draw at worst against any magika build as long as you manage your stamina and are ultra careful babysitting your shield stack.

    There's this sorc on EU, she has 0 sustain issues. She has dueled some guys with insane pressure and claims to never have gotten under 90% mag. Using ele drain, though she does complain about the changes this patch affecting that sustain. She also runs 1 shield haha, albeit one insanely huge shield but still... think she can count on one hand the people that beat her 1v1 during this past year lol, stupid op class in the right hands. :(

    The reason pet Sorcs are so great in duels is mostly due to targeting issues. You can tab-bracket lock the sorc, and your frags will always hit their stupid pets regardless. Then their shields are big enough to cover them while they re-summon them.

    If ZOS every fixes that, then their dumb AI meatshields won't save them from a severe beating.
    Edited by Minalan on April 15, 2017 11:57PM
  • Lexxypwns
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Every time i see a clip like this i want to try to dw myself, and procede to fail miserably >.<

    I'm no master DW sorc by any means, but in my experience the key to success is: shield stack, curse, wrath, entropy. At this point, if there's no frag proc'ed you just re-stack shields, if there's a frag proc you burst.

    I think the most important part is to accept that the portion of the playerbase you will not kill is large with DW.

    For some classes, you need mines and an ultimate. The list is shorter than you think, and if played right, those you cannot kill are a tie.

    Great video as always Leif! Nice use of DBoS.

    This, so much this.

    I really feel totally unkillable 1v1 on a DW sorc. 52k mag is an insane shield stack and even the people who survive my burst a few times will run out of resources or get tired of the fight before they can ever kill me. Its basically on the DW sorc to control the pace and timing of the fight and if you do then you've got the upper hand against anything imo. All magika builds just turn you into an infinite sustain machine, completely eliminating the need for potions and stam builds just don't have the burst to break the shield stack. As long as I'm determining when I shield stack and when I burst instead of trying to fit it into windows they allow I'll eventually get the upper hand and the kill.

    I can honestly say I haven't lost a duel on DW sorc that wasn't 100% my fault.

    Now imagine dueling a pet sorc with that magicka pool (more actually but let's leave that aside :D )... Not only the shield is literally untouchable but the pressure from 2 pets with curse, vma staff lightning wall of elements, infernal and constant frags is just too much. Though it does require a lot of good micromanagement so I guess it has a high skill cap. It's funny when people try it at first and get decimated cause they forget to heal/shield their pets hahaha

    Sounds like a sustain battery for me, they'll have waaaaaay more pressure but you catch them with the shields down and they melt.

    I'm not saying pet sorc isn't the strongest magika dueling spec in the game, just that I feel like DW mag sorc has the tool to counter most magika classes OR force a stalemate.

    If its a sorc duel with no harness I think killing a pet sorc in a necro build requires you to be drastically more skilled, but with harness you can basically force a draw at worst against any magika build as long as you manage your stamina and are ultra careful babysitting your shield stack.

    There's this sorc on EU, she has 0 sustain issues. She has dueled some guys with insane pressure and claims to never have gotten under 90% mag. Using ele drain, though she does complain about the changes this patch affecting that sustain. She also runs 1 shield haha, albeit one insanely huge shield but still... think she can count on one hand the people that beat her 1v1 during this past year lol, stupid op class in the right hands. :(

    The reason pet Sorcs are so great in duels is mostly due to targeting issues. You can tab-bracket lock the sorc, and your frags will always hit their stupid pets regardless. Then their shields are big enough to cover them while they re-summon them.

    If ZOS every fixes that, then their dumb AI meatshields won't save them from a severe beating.

    I think targeting issues are literally the only thing making pet sorc viable right now. If we can just hit them with our whole burst or even CC them reliably then you've got a shot

  • gibous
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    @LeifErickson great vid as always! Maybe we should hop into the studio one of these days and record another duet Tony Bennett / Lady Gaga style.

    I'll be Tony.
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    gibous wrote: »
    @LeifErickson great vid as always! Maybe we should hop into the studio one of these days and record another duet Tony Bennett / Lady Gaga style.

    I'll be Tony.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAmDULCVrU
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  • Jawasa
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    this build seems fun might try it. Jumped on the sorc bandwagon this patch but found it very boring after maybe 1-2 weeks as desto resto lich build.

    Pet sorc seems even more boring and all of them just have crutch builds and play in ic. Now this on the other hand seems realy fun and i think i have most of the gear needed for it. :smile:
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    gibous wrote: »
    @LeifErickson great vid as always! Maybe we should hop into the studio one of these days and record another duet Tony Bennett / Lady Gaga style.

    I'll be Tony.

    I mean I'm down but apparently someone thinks real life is more important than ESO.
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