Negative Players # PugsLife - the good, the bad and the hilarious

ForsakenSin · April 2017

So the other night i went to do CoS ... after so many runs i think 39 by now .. still no medium divines helm even after posting " will pay 100k for it"

So it was me a DPS 600 ( can't believe i got in with a dps after 30 min of waiting ) another 600 cp tank with 60k health dps 270 and healer 97...

You might think where this is going... but... well your right lol

anyway we got onto the second boss not too much problems , i asked if people know how to do this , no reply , so it was started , the tank didn't agro so she took a swing at me and one shot me i went down , the healer went down the dps went down and then there was a tank a "Wannabe Hero D-bag" yes im going to make that word a thing lol

there he was in full glory 60k health tank templer who was just using bow attack, resses one person only for them to die as he did not taunt the boss OR interrupt her when she is throwing those things! and then after 8 min just running around trying to kill the boss from 5mill really? REALLY? ... he left another dps left so it was me and 97cp healer

we got another tank around 300cp and another dps 500cp finished that boss and the spider and went into the Dranos Velandor after a while the 500Cp left and got a another cp 600 from the guild , the cp 97 healer left and we got one of the friends of cp 600

Now this is where things turn around

So we were in CoS for a over 1 hr and got onto the last boss the tank had no idea what he was doing but he was willing to learn and we were all chatting and laughing , my game kept on lagging so many times so after couple of reset ect it was working fine and we managed to finish it ... nobody got medium divines .. we all added each other to friends list as the run was funny and hilarious .. after Healer cp600 said " im glad we finished it im not running this #@$$% EVER again i hate it so much " .. i said " so same time next week then boys "? after allot of laughter i heard.." F&%#ET why not send me a invite when your going to run it" LOL

So even thought the start was bad experience and yes we got killed many times due to lag and stupid RNG nobody got medium divines or ANY in divines ,the run was hilarious and fun and in the end meet some good people.

malicia · April 2017

Joined a group tonight - someone was asking on Zone Chat for a tank and a DD for a normal random. When the group formed, one was ~lvl18 and the other ~lvl 28. The third, a DD, was lvl 50 < DD < cp160, can't remember exactly what.

I thought that I will finally meet the 2 hour slow poke low level horror dungeon. We got Darkshade 1.

I got a very pleasant surprise. The lvl 28 knew the dungeon much better than I did. We had no issues with the dungeon at all, and the clear was quick and painless. I suspect that the lower levels had a few CP under the belt, but even so, it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience.

#PugsLife - the good, the bad and the hilarious.

ForsakenSin · April 2017

@malicia

You know what sometimes i notice that too how some lower cp are better players then cp600 with golden out everything
in your case not even cp levels thats awsome

BAHAHAH

#PugsLife - the good, the bad and the hilarious

Man i love that!

LordGavus · April 2017

I helped some guildmates with normal wgt yesterday. It was their first run and wanted to learn mechanics. I jumped on my cp510 healer and they were cp200ish tank and dps. They filled the last dps spot with group finder.

Flags were raised immediately when the random guy was queued as both healer and dps, I then realised he also had 30k health.

He had basically no dps but atleast stayed alive. It was his first time in wgt too so it worked out well. Lucky it was only normal.
I would not want to run into that guy in vet though.

Straight after I did normal random on my baby tank. Got wgt again. I was level 16, dps and healer 20, and a CP300 dps.
We smashed it no problem, only wiped once on the adjudicator. Good times.

ForsakenSin · April 2017

how i wish i had a selective healing....

so few days ago i was on my cp 600 healer in pugs with cp 260 tank and few others cp range from 400 to 500 in VoM came across the Cursed One and i got hit by the Drain Life ability ... now the group didn't stop attacking and i died within the seconds .. not a big deal right.. EXCEPT THE tank CP 260 T BAGGED ME NUMBER OF TIMES !! really? REALLY ?

the whole run i was angry and i was looking at the ways not to heal him... how i wished i was able to select who i heal and who i don't...die DIE DIE!!!

Koensol · April 2017

Was playing vICP as templar tank. At the first boss, dps were having trouble staying alive on the adds and weren't able to burn them quickly. So I proceeded to range taunt all adds to me. Then one of the dps freaks out saying I should stay in the corner because I bring boss AoE to them. I tell him to relax, and say I am trying to help them because they obviously cannot handle the adds alone. At the boss where you have to throw poison bombs, the guys were constantly forgetting to unterrupt the boss on his 1 shot move, resulting in a death every time. Also, they didn't focus attronachs enough, which caused them to enrage and kill me multiple times. After a couple times we manage to kill the boss.

The other bosses went okay actually. Up untill the 3 miniboss stages before lord warden. On the last stage I taunted the 3 bosses and tried to also hold any attronachs. Again the same dps guy freaks out (after dying) that I don't hold aggro. I'm like.. do you seriously expect me to hold aggro on all mobs in this room?? I had the bosses + attro under controll that should be enough. Of course on the 2nd try we failed again because the dps again didn't focuss the attronachs which resulted in me being 1 shot by enraged attronach.

Finally we get to lord warden. We didn't do too shabby, we knew the tactics, except the healer (who had been quiet the whole way through) kept failing to jump into a vortex when boss does the 1 shot jump attack. So he had to be ressed every time, followed by a repetitive "sorry" every time LOL. At one point we got the boss to about 25%, when we wiped due to healer dying again and the boss spawning his 4 clones. Then the dps said to me "Do you have any other spec than tank?" I said, "No, I don't have the gear sorry". He freaks out again saying "are you f'ing kidding me?! Not even a dps spec?!" He then says "wait" and proceeds to load up his DK tank spec. He says "I am gonna tank this ***, you just spam some BoL or w/e.". I am chuckling at this point, escalating into a rofl when he died in the first clone phase and instantly left the group without a word.

Good times.. good times..

Flameheart · April 2017

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

the next group had the awesome 2 skill bow spammer that hides behind the healer.

LordGavus wrote: »

And then I see it, standing there in all his glory, the heavy attacking, snipe spamming bow dps. I watched in amazement as he valiantly battled his single zombie foe, eventually he emerged victorious.

Still slightly surprised I turned to his dps partner to see why he hadn't come to his aid. And there it is, the frags hard casting spam sorc. He proved to be as effective at killing things as his buddy.

ForsakenSin wrote: »

there he was in full glory 60k health tank templer

I love this thread. It's full of deja-vu :-)

Flameheart · April 2017

Deadfinger6 wrote: »

No 600's on a Vet run = alarm bells. and 180 level is too low, unless they show skill on the first boss I'd be looking to bin them. The circle of life is cruel but necessary.

My guild group (tank, healer and me as Sorc DD) were doing pledges and queued up for a random DD. We got a CP 308 pet Sorc and I already expected to heave the most dps for the group.

After some trash groups and bosses I realized that this guy was doing some pretty cool dps. I could not exceed 55% to 59% group dps according Combat Metrix and delivered 35k+ single target dps on some bosses. At CP 308 you will miss a lot of CPs in Thaumaturge and especially Elfblood.

As we were done with the nonDLC pledges we decided to do vWGT and take the guy with us. He said he just did that on normal, never on vet. I explained the bosses in a very short version (3 to 5 sentences, do this, do that, avoid that).

One wipe on Planar Inhibitor, because sometimes people have issues to realize far away spawning portals (maybe a grafic setup thing) and so you have to run around somewhat to recognize them. I don't even know if the other Sorc had a portal phase, maybe he wasn't even the reason.

Endboss hardmode first try, he died on the last 10%, but ok, this can happen anytime even in good groups. If you do that the first time, the mistake, that will mosty likely happen, is that a wall will catch you from behind while you are moving away from it. This will eat your shield and your life within a second.

Nevertheless, I thought you should not only tell people about their mistakes and what to do better, sometimes you should tell them that they have done great. Man, this guy was pretty proud and linked the vet, hm and speed run achievement.

...but I agree, those things are an exception from the general experience.

Mush55 · April 2017

Trying to find enthusiasm to start playing again, so here is my story from yesterdays 20 min I managed to stomach.
so I que for a random and get vet CoH 2 now Ive done this dungeon so many time I can do it blind folded, there is me cp 600 sorc, cp 350 temp healer , cp 400 tank and the other dps cp250 not sure of class but 2hand mellee dps.

So we enter and start and the first lot of mobs take a bit to kill no worries I though and off we go so eventually we get to the first boss 2 wipes later and the tank is moaning about low dps and not being up to the job worst dps he has ever grouped with (bearing in mind Ive not played for 8 months)

So we kill the first boss eventually and the tank still going on about the crap dps I then answer saying if you take a look there are only 3 of us here the other dps is still some way up one of the corridors and I have carried the group most of the way with my poor dps..

I say sorry to the healer and leave group and log off, now I know my dps is not stella but previously I have run most trials vet dsa.

But if this is the nature of pugs these days I pitty new players.

To end I got a message off the temp saying he quit the group after being accused of not knowing how to heal and asked if I would help him run through ICP vet one of the days with my old farming group.

So made a new friend out of a crap grp.........................

Magdalina · April 2017

I pugged normal FG 2 on my lvl 48 EU sorc with 0 cp to back her up! My, was this fun...I end up in a group with lvl 48 dps(me), lvl 42 tank, cp 150 templar dps and cp 550 healer. Awesome, I think, what can go wrong...uh oh...it quickly turns out the tank spends most of the time swingings his axe, not sure if he had s&b at all but at least he did sometimes taunt. Other dps spams javelin for dps(works especially good on trash packs, extra points for knocking them out of my Liquid+Wall of ele too) and healer does Idk what because somehow we all die on first big trash pack(in the room with the chaining boss) after which he drops without a word. I proceed to equip a resto staff and we slowly but easily get that trash(which reinforces my confusion regarding what the cp 550 healer was doing the first time). Groupfinder pretends to be looking for #4, we pretend we can 3 man the boss. They pull before I can explain mechanics so naturally die. I explain, we try again, goes better but still not enough attention paid to chaining ads/Mysery lightning so wipe. Wipe a few more times, then we finally get her(sorc heals best heals...especially when you're level 48 0 cp queued as a dps). Pretty sure I'm still doing most of group's dps while healing(and my Twilight is doing really good at tanking boss, too), but whatever.

We move on, get to spider boss. Pull before I can explain mechanics again, okay. Javelin dps gets sucked into portal and takes a good 5 minutes to get out(understandable, javelin-ing spiders one by one sounds tedious). After that tank gets sucked in and never makes it out at all but that's okay, Twilight does much better both with holding agro and not pulling the boss out of my dots. I res the other dps a few times too, last time he dies boss is at like 15% so I just execute her, after which he drops without a word(??). Groupfinder is still pretending no one has ever queued to this dungeons over the whole lifetime of ESO so whatever, we heroically continue. Resource draining boss takes a while as Twilight tanks him and I heavy resto attack him to death as the tank heroically swings his heavy axe. Tank proceeds to be amazed about how good we're doing and how he's going to pat himself on the back if we actually finish him. I decided not to share the cold harsh bitter truth with him as he still has vet dungeons ahead to uncover it; besides, at level 42, there might yet be hope for him.

On last boss groupfinder suddenly wakes up and gives us another dps. Predictably neither the new dps nor the old tank listen to my pleas for stacking and whatnot but since it's normal, we make it anyway. Honestly, in the end I had a great laugh and it was actually really fun. A good challenge on a character backed up by mechanics/skills knowledge but not cp. I enjoyed it

CaiWenji · April 2017

My worst experience was when I was lv42 and had 400 CP on one of my most played chars and I queued as healer(as I am one and a great one at that, I like to think) for *Normal* Darkshade Caverns II. I've told this story a number of times but anyways here if goes:

I waited in the random normal queue for a long while well was 15-30mins. I was healer so normally it is faster however this time it was taking forever. I did so many dungeons before this and on this character too! Kept doing normal queues multiple times a day cause its fun! Even at vet levels which are still kinda easy with a good group but normal, if you don't need the bust or a helm/shoulder set I suggest norm every time because you can win a million times faster and spend time doing other stuff in this game.

Anyway I finally got a squad -normal- Darkshade Caverns II. Then as I teleported in and said /g Hey guys! Then one of them responds, "Sorry we want to win this." And I was kicked instantly. The person was cp200 something at the time I was actually CP400 something but they checked there little group menu and only saw Lv.42 for healer. I still know her name(kinda) but know now there's a naming and shaming rule on here. It was a normal and I was never given a chance. To me that is the worse thing someone can do at all in group dungeons. Queuing for whatever reason was slow that day so many delves got completed instead.

ForsakenSin · April 2017

How i lost 2hr of my time..

so there i was doing pugs CoS ive done it so SOOOOOoooo many times me and veli are on first-name basis

and yet no med divins helm ..

so there we were me cp 600 tank cp 600 healer cp 300 and dps 500

oh god... here we go..

not even at the first boss just killing the mobs ive noticed two people using the sword and board .. and i was like umm ok.. why do we have two tanks ? one had 26k health and other 16 k health ... after trying to chat no response and trying the 16k told me he is a healer using sword and board ok now ive seen everything sword and board healer ..

the DPS 500 left.. i think he knew what would happen but never the less i asked the cp 600 to pass the crown so i can get a dps in .. no response another dps did join us and we went on ... so far so good we finished all of the boss after 1hr and then got to veli

tried it a few times but when she says " don't move" they moved and got killed... so after 6 tries the healer and dps left and it was me and cp 600,

so we got other player a cp 500 and a healer 600 the dps was talking on chat but the other two didn't after trying and trying i noticed the tank didn't hold ago , me and other dps were asking the tank if he is holding the ago ect no response .. and tank kept on getting killed .

at one stage when going down to maze my screen didn't load and i got killed and the dps that was talking as well got dc , i placed on the chat my loading screen didn't load and i was killed got back to the fighting when i heard the sound...

you have been kicked out of group ... i was like WHAT? i pm the other DPS that was with us and they kicked him out as well .. we could not believe it ... are you kidding me ? 2hr gone and i was the one who was rezzing them and trying to tell them the mechanics for crying out loud they didn't even get the astro light it was me and other DPS who were taking them..

ohh well .. see you next time veli

ForsakenSin · April 2017

however the day before i was kicked got into the CoS it was me tank dps 600CP and 300cp healer ... no talkno chatting we finished it in 50min lol then the tank goes " again ?" im like ... "fine lets do it "got another dps finished it in 45 min ... then the tank goes again im like... i hate you fine lets do it.. but we were missing a healer .. and went on the mic chat and just talked for a long time and laughing how without mic chat or talking we finished it so easy so i got another friend on my list for tanking lol

WhitePawPrints · May 2017

I wouldn't say they were bad players, but...

I am running a new build on my Sorc so I'll often run Random Normal Dungeons to get good experience, and be able to test what works and what doesn't without being a determent to a veteran dungeon group.

So I queue up, and get in a dungeon. Banished Cells 1 and we all port in, only to have the instance instantly kick us all back out. Popular glitch since Group Finder was revised, right? So I go and port back in manually, and just as I type "port to me" the other DPS and the Healer both leave immediately. Maybe it was their first time running into that glitch, and maybe they're so impatient, they'd rather wait fifteen minutes to requeue instead of wait 15 seconds for me to load in manually and let them know they can all port to me? Oh well.

The tank and I ran the dungeon and completed it easily enough, even though he was level 22 with no self heals.

xXMichonneXx · May 2017

I've only had one bad pug experience, I usually do dungeon runs with my guild mates but I wanted to do CoH and no one was on to help. Go in on my stam sorc with a random group and we start zooming through, no issues. Then I notice that the other 3 are standing in front of a chest not doing anything so I opened it. We continue on fighting mobs and come to another chest--- a master. Again they are standing there so I open that one too. Let me add that no one is in group chat, no communications are happening. Except after the master chest I start getting whispers from them, telling me that's a *** move, why am I opening chests? I was astounded. I said in group, you know everyone gets the chests, doesn't matter who opens them, etc etc, trying to figure out what was going on. Group leader then says "want to see another *** move? watch this" ..I knew he was going to kick me for whatever warped reasoning he had so I left. Then I get more whispers saying "you were getting kicked" I said omg you people are nuts then i blocked them all. That was the last pug group for me.

Asardes · May 2017

Why would someone protest opening chests in a dungeon, ran with random group? I see the point of not opening chests if it were a trial where you run with guild mates for score, and where every second lost counts, and where the group may split and not be able to loot the same chest before it despawns (vAA, vHRC). As an anecdote, I opened two chests in a vWGT run: one contained a sharpened lightning staff, the other a powered restoration one. So yea, chests are pretty good, if they are at least intermediate.

xXMichonneXx · May 2017

Asardes wrote: »

Why would someone protest opening chests in a dungeon, ran with random group? I see the point of not opening chests if it were a trial where you run with guild mates for score, and where every second lost counts, and where the group may split and not be able to loot the same chest before it despawns (vAA, vHRC). As an anecdote, I opened two chests in a vWGT run: one contained a sharpened lightning staff, the other a powered restoration one. So yea, chests are pretty good, if they are at least intermediate.

I couldn't figure it out and they would not tell me why it was wrong. Just kept abusing me verbally in chat. Believe me, I am not one of those a-hole players who runs ahead in dungeons or does other questionable things. I know my role when I enter one and I do it well, at least I thought so. And if I'm doing something wrong, then explain it to me, don't call me names and kick me. shewwwwwww

Tan9oSuccka · May 2017

Delimber wrote: »

jkolb2030 wrote: »

EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.

As I remember the Red Centurion doesn't take to a taunt very well either, seems to like chasing the healer though. But I've only tanked that dungeon a few times since 1T.

Bingo. Biggus Dickus (Quintis) ignores taunt. I rather enjoy watching him throttle glass cannons.

Peekachu99 · May 2017

Eshja wrote: »

jkolb2030 wrote: »

The entire group was running around like mad men on the first Gargoyle changing boss (I forget his name) because the tank could not hold aggro.
-We worked around it and made it through to the final boss, although encountering the same issue at all the bosses and mob pulls...

At the final boss, we hit hard mode for the pledge. And the "tank" goes to the yellow centurion and engages it while the blue is shooting his AoE and the red is chasing ANYONE in sight because the tank does not taunt and kite them away.. I get it, the red guy hits pretty hard and the Yellow has a really strong heavy it charges up - its not an easy task (I've not tanked before, so i'm assuming its not easy, but manageable).
[...]
EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.

Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here.

I don't want to insult anyone, but it's not okay for me to say that someone isn't good player if you're not sure you're right. I mean everything what he was doing is doing by most of tanks in this dung. But last boss is quite hard, need to say that.

Again, I didn't want to insult you, just wanted to show you the opposite perspective.

You can only taunt one centurion. Other two are totally immune and do wtf they want.

Eshja · May 2017

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

jkolb2030 wrote: »

The entire group was running around like mad men on the first Gargoyle changing boss (I forget his name) because the tank could not hold aggro.
-We worked around it and made it through to the final boss, although encountering the same issue at all the bosses and mob pulls...

At the final boss, we hit hard mode for the pledge. And the "tank" goes to the yellow centurion and engages it while the blue is shooting his AoE and the red is chasing ANYONE in sight because the tank does not taunt and kite them away.. I get it, the red guy hits pretty hard and the Yellow has a really strong heavy it charges up - its not an easy task (I've not tanked before, so i'm assuming its not easy, but manageable).
[...]
EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.

Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here.

I don't want to insult anyone, but it's not okay for me to say that someone isn't good player if you're not sure you're right. I mean everything what he was doing is doing by most of tanks in this dung. But last boss is quite hard, need to say that.

Again, I didn't want to insult you, just wanted to show you the opposite perspective.

You can only taunt one centurion. Other two are totally immune and do wtf they want.

Now I know

. I did some tanking since I wrote this post

.

I was grinding tank by doing random normals with no problems, apart pro cp players who were like 'lol, 35 lvl tank, what are you doing here, gtfo' and they were kicking me. I never understand it, how cp player can kick low level from content which was created actually for low levels to get some exp when 160cp+ should do random vet... I even completed dlc dungs with other 'low level noobs'. I can't even think about better response than l2p for these ppl.

Bramir · May 2017

I always assume that the person trying to blame the healer is the actual problem...

Rajajshka · May 2017

This one instance i had isn't so much the group itself as it was the group finder.

Me and a friend of mine were leveling some characters and we decided to run a random normal. We que'd it and got 5 people in the group instead of the usual 4. Not the first time its ever happen so me and my friend left, waited 15 mins, que'd again, and got another 5 player group, with the same people as before too!
This happened a few more times until we decided to do something else and wait a bit before queing it again.

ForsakenSin · May 2017

Some amazing stories here

Well ... last night something unexpected happend...

So i ran Fungol grotto 1 and Selines Web ... need keys damm you RNG .. anyway ..

So there i was cp 600 as in wait for it.... wait for it.. MAGIC SORC yes i changed .. wanted to get back into it after playing with my stam sorc for a very very long time .. so got in random group cp 240 cp 300 cp 400 ... finished the selines and i noticed the other guys didn't get much heals which was weird .. i posted " fungol grotto ?" and one of the guys said.." my freind is not a healer he placed it wrong are you ok with that ?" im like " lol thats fine lets go" so fungol grotto we went... finished the last boss and i got Kra'gh helm in divins medium.

I posted it on the zone chat and one guy said if he can have it and i gave it to him.. we talked for a while and i told him when i was running my stam sorc and needed that helm people were selling it for 70k to me , he could not believe it and thanked me again for not asking for money as he didn't have much and i told him "well i got heaps of money and i already got the helm no need to be a *** and be greedy and asking people to pay for it " and then i seen his friend saying " you are the MVP!! that is soo good of you thank you champ again " we said our goodbye and told them if they need anything for crafting or help running again to let me know ..

So that was the first time i was called "The MVP" lol and honestly no gold obtained could give me the same felling as been called that

WhitePawPrints · May 2017

Eshja wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

jkolb2030 wrote: »

The entire group was running around like mad men on the first Gargoyle changing boss (I forget his name) because the tank could not hold aggro.
-We worked around it and made it through to the final boss, although encountering the same issue at all the bosses and mob pulls...

At the final boss, we hit hard mode for the pledge. And the "tank" goes to the yellow centurion and engages it while the blue is shooting his AoE and the red is chasing ANYONE in sight because the tank does not taunt and kite them away.. I get it, the red guy hits pretty hard and the Yellow has a really strong heavy it charges up - its not an easy task (I've not tanked before, so i'm assuming its not easy, but manageable).
[...]
EDIT: So as I read on, i see that the Gargoyle boss, Quintus, cannot be taunted at all times? So that makes me feel better about the tank in my group, but still does not explain the rest of the mob pulls and bosses in the dungeon... No reason a Sorc DPS should be getting focus healed, and casting his wards because he is taking the brute of the boss dmg.

Good that you know already that Gargoyle don't let you hold aggro, but about last boss... I saw few tactics, but mostly tank taunted only yellow boss. Cause he does one-shot with his 2h weapon or arm, whatever. Tank don't taunt red, cause it's easy to avoid him, and blue is just shooting, what is easy to avoid too. So usually in my parties dps killed first red, then yellow and blue finally. But I guess it doesn't matter if you kill yellow first. So he actually was a good tank... Cause only pro tanks are able to have 2 of these taunted and still live. Maybe healer was bad, if he was letting you die or dps weren't survivable... Please, don't insult someone who do his job, if you don't know tactics. Actually it looks like you were the 'bad pugs' here.

I don't want to insult anyone, but it's not okay for me to say that someone isn't good player if you're not sure you're right. I mean everything what he was doing is doing by most of tanks in this dung. But last boss is quite hard, need to say that.

Again, I didn't want to insult you, just wanted to show you the opposite perspective.

You can only taunt one centurion. Other two are totally immune and do wtf they want.

Now I know . I did some tanking since I wrote this post .

I was grinding tank by doing random normals with no problems, apart pro cp players who were like 'lol, 35 lvl tank, what are you doing here, gtfo' and they were kicking me. I never understand it, how cp player can kick low level from content which was created actually for low levels to get some exp when 160cp+ should do random vet... I even completed dlc dungs with other 'low level noobs'. I can't even think about better response than l2p for these ppl.

Whoa whoa whoa! Wait, high CP players wanted to kick you for being low level as a tank? A CP player need a tank in NORMAL? Those are BAD players then, likely holy crap bad. My nightblade has minimal sustain and I can solo normal dungeon content (excluding boss mechanics that require more than one person).

ForsakenSin · May 2017

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Now I know . I did some tanking since I wrote this post .

I was grinding tank by doing random normals with no problems, apart pro cp players who were like 'lol, 35 lvl tank, what are you doing here, gtfo' and they were kicking me. I never understand it, how cp player can kick low level from content which was created actually for low levels to get some exp when 160cp+ should do random vet... I even completed dlc dungs with other 'low level noobs'. I can't even think about better response than l2p for these ppl.

@WhitePawPrints Whoa whoa whoa! Wait, high CP players wanted to kick you for being low level as a tank? A CP player need a tank in NORMAL? Those are BAD players then, likely holy crap bad. My nightblade has minimal sustain and I can solo normal dungeon content (excluding boss mechanics that require more than one person).

WOW HOW DID I MISS THAT !!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHA good eyes WhitePawPrints and excellent and true point!! .. that is unbelievable ahahahahahahahaha

Insanepirate01 · May 2017

Weirdly enough never had bad pug experiences playing as DPS and I pug every day. That all changed when I tried pugging as a tank with vet dungeons. DPS with sword and shield with 25k health and some spamming bow light attacks. Dps need to be held to the same standards as tanks and healers. Most of them que with such sub par dps it's ridiculous. If tank doesn't aggro or healer doesn't heal they get kicked immediately. Where as dps are out here spamming one attack lol. Needless to say I've stopped pugging on my tank.

Alchemical · May 2017

The other day a super salty Sally wanted to kick me out of random vet because I was a werewolf. They didn't have a problem with my DPS until I pop'd my werewolf ult and tore off a buncha lamia heads. Then other DPS started swearing, calling me a noob and demanding they kick me because I clearly didn't know what I was doing. I didn't indulge them, just said lol and sprinted away. Dungeon went butter smooth the whole way through despite him pitching a fit.

A lot of people get upset for some reason if you bring a werewolf to the party. Because it's not optimized for unattainably perfect DPS? If a PUG is preforming adequately, doing mechanics, and not dying, why you gotta be a hardass about what loadout they're rocking? To me that sounds like bads who just want to be carried.

NordSwordnBoard · May 2017

My trophy is this story, not a monster helm or heinous bronze bust. When I q'ed my tank into Selene's Web daily last night, it was almost like I pictured myself being right here, before I even got to know my group. I knew we weren't beating it. The conversation at the beginning hinted at that. It went something like this:

Tank (me): Hey, are you gonna wear bear proc at the end?
DD: (wearing Selene's set, we'll call him "Selene") Ya selene's medium divines both : )
Tank: That's not gonna be good at the end
Healer: Whats bear proc?
The other DD (we'll call him "Vegeta") is heading to the start so I leave the entrance. Nobody is on mikes but me.

I get to the first mob and the fight is started already. I get things chained into a pile pretty well, and the screen freezes when I do a warhorn.

I log back in, half hoping to be kicked, and I'm kind of surprised they waited.

The rest of the dungeon becomes a race as the impatient dps guy Vegeta keeps starting fights before I can get there. Dps for the squad is lopsided, the mobs are just not getting killed efficiently. Vegeta has overload, boundless storm, surge and shields and thinks this makes him Super Saiyan. He is visibly carrying the heavy side of the squad's dps over Selene and his bear.

I start getting annoyed. The next time Vegeta runs past me to the mob, I run past him not poking anything. I go straight to the next mob and properly pull it together. I think my Stormfist went off as much or more than Selene's bear. My mob would have about half health after they finished the first one. I hoped this would show them the difference and let the tank manage the adds. It did not. We leapfrogged each other like this to each boss, and competitively, but inefficiently, made our way to Selene.

Tank: This isn't gonna go well

***, ***, Hey Bubba, here comes the the hard part. At least we all knew the 2 keys weren't happening. I'm up for a challenge, but I knew I would (and did) have to chain the adds and also rezz people while managing Selene, drawing her bear away while I ignore the other Selene's bear. Vegeta led us to the corner method, and we get her down to around 150k before I was suddenly the last man and couldn't output enough tank damage and heal through all the adds. I was annoyed at having two bears, so I found the solution:

I asked them to wait in text chat, silently hoping they would ignore me and go after the spider right away. Why? So I could put on my Selene's set without them seeing it. (poor healer) Now we can have Momma, Poppa, and Baby bear!

Now, it was my turn to laugh, as bears were roaring all over the place. We easily had triple the number of deaths on this attempt compared to the first one I took seriously. The only thing I didn't take seriously the second time was how stupid it was to wear that set in that fight and not just use one piece kragh, kena, velidreth, or something else. I felt bad for the healer, but I left them after this wipe because I had to go to work in the morning early and write this. The End.

ForsakenSin · May 2017

@NordSwordnBoard " Now we can have Momma, Poppa, and Baby bear! "

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA !!!!

Ep1kMalware · May 2017

ForsakenSin wrote: »

So i would like to share something that happen few days ago

So there i was qued up for VWGT as DPS , after the 3rd boss somebody left and we had this 3 people a Argonian temp healer cp 180, tank 460, and a DPS cp 300 or so.

Due to people not having mic we got killed few times and then that is when it started the leader was cp 300 and he wanted to kick out the healer to which i declined and after 2 times we got killed we got on the mic and managed to finish it, we got to the last boss and things just went down hill, the Cp 300 dps was a leader every time he died and 80% of times he was first to go down kept on saying ohh great i died again , healer didn't do his job again , tank is not doing what he is supposed to do ohh we died again look at that ... why do i bother playing, i hate this i hate that over and over and over again when its his fault as he is getting killed and we try to ress him we get killed because of him .... it gets to you

Now after 40 min of trying to finish the boss and hearing all the negativity ALL the time like and i mean ALL THE TIME , it came to the point where the tank had to go and it was 3 of us , the cp 300 tried to kick the temp many times and they started fighting via text

Cp 300 kept on trying to kick the healer to which i declined, i asked the CP 300 the leader ... get us in que so we can get a new player... cps 300 said " not until we get rid of this !@#$ healer until he is gone im not going to que us in ... i can wait here all night i don't care and you can #$%# off as well if you don't kick him out i don't care i can wait " and i heard TV going on in the background .... i whisper that to the temp ... the temp said "its ok buddy i will go so you can finish this ".."i replied back i don't need to finish it i got close every monster mask i need but you dont" .. so there we were waiting for 10 min .. and still listening to cp 300 been negative and blaming others and healer... so ive done something i didn't do in a very very long time... i voted to kick him off and we did..

after few min later we got people joining and leaving we got 1 DPS after 15 min the same guy CP 300 joined !!.... and it was like nope ,no i can't deal with his negativity again so i kicked him out again and another DPS joined and we finished it like a hot knife thought butter.

After all this i spoken to templer and he was happy he got to finish the VWGT for the first time as he was only playing for a month and a bit , i gave him some pointers and crafted him full julianos set in light purple and made him destro and resto all in Hollowjack Motif staff no charge , LOL never seen/ heard somebody so happy in my life.

My question is has anybody else came across negative people that just do your head in?

Yeh, I pregroup so were usually 2-3 ppl and que for whatever. The other day ot was a friens and I, we wanted to do vwgt so I qued as a tank and she ques as healer thinking it' work out best with 3dps. Instead we get 2 cp600 morons in s&b / heavy armour spamming puncture. They were friends so we couldnt kick, and they just trash talked how *** pve was.

Long story short, we did vma amd let them sit and rot. 2 manned it after. And I can;t believe zos is balancing the game around these type of idiots, go figure.