Negative Players # PugsLife - the good, the bad and the hilarious

ForsakenSin

So i would like to share something that happen few days ago

So there i was qued up for VWGT as DPS , after the 3rd boss somebody left and we had this 3 people a Argonian temp healer cp 180, tank 460, and a DPS cp 300 or so.

Due to people not having mic we got killed few times and then that is when it started the leader was cp 300 and he wanted to kick out the healer to which i declined and after 2 times we got killed we got on the mic and managed to finish it, we got to the last boss and things just went down hill, the Cp 300 dps was a leader every time he died and 80% of times he was first to go down kept on saying ohh great i died again , healer didn't do his job again , tank is not doing what he is supposed to do ohh we died again look at that ... why do i bother playing, i hate this i hate that over and over and over again when its his fault as he is getting killed and we try to ress him we get killed because of him .... it gets to you

Now after 40 min of trying to finish the boss and hearing all the negativity ALL the time like and i mean ALL THE TIME , it came to the point where the tank had to go and it was 3 of us , the cp 300 tried to kick the temp many times and they started fighting via text

Cp 300 kept on trying to kick the healer to which i declined, i asked the CP 300 the leader ... get us in que so we can get a new player... cps 300 said " not until we get rid of this !@#$ healer until he is gone im not going to que us in ... i can wait here all night i don't care and you can #$%# off as well if you don't kick him out i don't care i can wait " and i heard TV going on in the background .... i whisper that to the temp ... the temp said "its ok buddy i will go so you can finish this ".."i replied back i don't need to finish it i got close every monster mask i need but you dont" .. so there we were waiting for 10 min .. and still listening to cp 300 been negative and blaming others and healer... so ive done something i didn't do in a very very long time... i voted to kick him off and we did..

after few min later we got people joining and leaving we got 1 DPS after 15 min the same guy CP 300 joined !!.... and it was like nope ,no i can't deal with his negativity again so i kicked him out again and another DPS joined and we finished it like a hot knife thought butter.

After all this i spoken to templer and he was happy he got to finish the VWGT for the first time as he was only playing for a month and a bit , i gave him some pointers and crafted him full julianos set in light purple and made him destro and resto all in Hollowjack Motif staff no charge , LOL never seen/ heard somebody so happy in my life.

My question is has anybody else came across negative people that just do your head in?

Delimber

I was tanking a pug run and accused of not doing any damage once lol

ForsakenSin

@Delimber

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH ohhh that is gold

Yhea shame on you! what were you thinking of not doing any damage as tank ahahaha

WhitePawPrints

The worst experience I have encountered with a toxic player was probably a DPS that queued as a tank, and he gave a bunch of crap to our other DPS for not interrupting one of CoS bosses. This was on normal even. I left that.

I've had a bad experience with a healer queuing as a tank for Vet Elden Hollow II. First boss I ended up tanking with my DPS, we managed to kill it (had to rely mostly on self sustain with two healers even). Second boss we wiped because I sure as hell wasn't built to be a tank, (and gasp! I didn't queue for one). One of the few times I initiated a kick on a player.

Tryxus

You def made the right decision between the Templar Healer and the lousy DPSer, and did a good thing afterwards by helping him.

Delimber

ForsakenSin wrote: »

@Delimber

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH ohhh that is gold

Yhea shame on you! what were you thinking of not doing any damage as tank ahahaha

Yep, it was golden lol

Doctordarkspawn

Worst experience by far was a run of Blessed Crucible.

Healer was fine, I was tanking, and we had two DPS. A magicka sorc who had likely just started playing and Stamsorc with around 300 CP. I had tried votekicking the low level a few times, it was a random vet, but eventually just let him be and did the dungeon.

As we go through the dungeon, the low level is in a state of wonderment at this dungeon. The DPS, is going 'wait why does the tank have a healstaff, wtf is this" (I run an unconventional build.) We get to the final boss and the 300 hits hardmode. it's a Random vet, not pledge, I promptly cuss him out for hitting hardmode. There was no point. he proceeds to tell me to stop my whining, insult me, try and get me kicked which he promptly does not get, and we try to do the boss. We fail, miseribly, the DPS does not understand to DPS Flame Atro's when they spawn that shield the boss nor to back up when the boss does their flame attack.

At this point he just keeps hitting scroll and geting us killed. The other DPS, the newbie, is long gone, having eithrer DC'd or logged out. I straight up refuse to tank unless this guy stopps hitting scroll. he does not believe me, runs past me, engages, dies, and promptly ragequits. We kick both DPS, and get new ones, finishing the fight in a little over a few minutes.

After we're done, I send the low level 1 K, in a mail that says it wasn't his fault and that we could def have beaten it. He loggs on a few days and we talk for a bit, because he wasn't such a bad guy.

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And the moral of the story is that one bad unreasonable DPS can ruin a group. One unreasonable player can destroy the dynamic on which group play is built. And this is why we have the Vote-kick feature.

ForsakenSin

@Tryxus

Thanx buddy

LOL love House

Rohamad_Ali

Delimber wrote: »

I was tanking a pug run and accused of not doing any damage once lol

Delimber

Yeah, having had a couple of bad runs last year I just had to take a break from the group content.

Fortunately the good runs outnumber the bad runs.

psychotic13

I had a sorc healer for blessed crucible earlier, I'm fine with sorc healers if they know how to heal, but this guy wouldn't use his twilight, or even healing springs. His idea of healing was rapid regen and chokethorn, and his argument was he's a healer cause he's using chokethorn.

Luckily we had 2 good DPS who knew the mechanics, but yeah some pugs can be stressful, especially when you give them advice on how to improve and they're set in their ways

Stoopid_Nwah

99% of the time when I encounter rude people, they're dps. They also tend to majorly suck (don't understand that red=bad, can't pull decent numbers, come in without food buffs, have no idea what a rotation is).

I've found everything is smoother and faster when I just do pledges and helmet runs solo. I don't have to listen to idiots, teach people how to perform their role, or get cussed out for giving advice. It's wonderful .

Eshja

My two favourite pug situations which happend to me recently:

1) I was a healer, I was after doing some quests earlier so I forgot to get some party skills. Situation happened in 2 mins since we teleported to dung. Party was dying without me on mobs, they didn't have dmg (about 15k group dmg and I'm doing 4k at pure healer) and they started to complain why I don't use orbs, cause they don't have resources. And what dps said: "Combat prayer? Orbs? Anything?" Me: "Oh, sure, I'll equip it" Other dps: "Great healer..." I was in skill window, getting some party skills, when they kicked me. Then I got some more insults on priv and got ignore before I replied anything.

2) I went to random normal with my 17 lvl dd, just to get some exp. It was nICP, nothing hard on normal. My boyfriend was in the team so I saw on his screen, that healer is frequently trying to kick me. My bf said to him he won't kick me and he didn't leave. Healer was doing 4k hps, what is awful number according to dmg we took and I was doing 48% of dps. With 17 lvl. So it should be good reason to not kick low levels, if they have cp. And, oh god, it's random NORMAL. If you are so elite, go on vet. And healer left when me and tank killed one boss alone, cause he thought he won't get exp. (You will get exp even if you're standing at the entrance, if nothing's changed). But we were glad he left, next healer was better and he was nice.

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

FearlessOne_2014

My worst experience with dungeons was today. I got beyond super trolled by ZOSes random normal dungeon queue finder on my at the time level 32 stamsorc.

Queue one CoS.

Queue two ICP

Queue three WGT

more then four hours later got VoM

Each time I instantly left group of course without a single word. Learned from doing this mistake last time in a similar situation. All I have to say is WHY ZOS WHY!? WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!? IS THIS SOMETHING FUNNY TO YOU!? honestly why must I suffer such just because I"m a paying member who has DLC access. Can you atleast give people like me the option to opt out from DLC dungeons in the random normal dungeon queue finder? PLEASE ZOS PLEASE!

Ok my vented rant is over now. But seriously why is there no option to opt out of DLC dungeons in normal queue under level 30 at least? Bad enoth as a DPS I have to wait a minimal of 45 mins per queue. Making completing random normal impossible unless I can pull 2 dpsers worth of DPS on my poor low level stamsorc.

Mic1007

I once got a rage tell from a DPS after I used Igneous Weapons on my DK Tank - you know, to buff up the group - because he was mad his weapons were orange.

WhitePawPrints

Eshja wrote: »

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "elistits" that throw fits like that are truly the ones wanting to be carried.

ForsakenSin

Lol damm some funny horrible stories here

another thing that happend was on cradle of shadow

me as DPS 560Cp, another DPS 460 Cp we had a healer 300Cp and tank 560 ... on last boss we died few times and Tank 560 was getting angry and blaming healer and he started insulting people on mic ... the fist time we got to the shadow part he didn't pick up the light even though he was right next to it .. he died ....3 of us made it and got killed eventually trying to rez him ...so next round we told him to pick up the light if he is next to it ... he responded "don't tell me how to play i done this before"... next round we got in the shadow part he had the light on and i was with him .. now you would think he would run to the boss room right... NOPE ... he just stayed where he dropped and started fighting and fighting adds until he died and as i was with him i tried running towards the boss room and i couldn't made it... he started blaming other people ..

. next round i picked up the light i was with healer we made it ( the healer was amazing he was running in front of me leading the way while i was throwing down caltrops ) ... the other 2 guys didn't make it so i don't know what happen.. we got him up at the boss we were doing great ... until the boss goes " stand still.." ... now i don't need to explain when person tells you to stand still ... and tank was running around like a headless chicken and yhea dead .. so we tried to rez him again and eventually we all died..... after that other guy was asking him what he has and tried to help him now the funny part..

The tank was on mic chat complaining and swearing .. we tried to ask him what he is using to help him out ..however he did not responded ..we tried many times going " hello can you hear us? we can hear our self can you hear us ?" just to hear him complaining talking about us and swearing after 6 min of trying to talk to him just to be fully ignored and im sure he could of hear us he was swearing and rage quited.

we started laughing and just went " what just happen ? "

ForsakenSin

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "elistits" that throw fits like that are truly the ones wanting to be carried.

You know what ... im starting to believe that

WhitePawPrints

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Lol damm some funny horrible stories here

another thing that happend was on cradle of shadow

me as DPS 560Cp, another DPS 460 Cp we had a healer 300Cp and tank 560 ... on last boss we died few times and Tank 560 was getting angry and blaming healer and he started insulting people on mic ... the fist time we got to the shadow part he didn't pick up the light even though he was right next to it .. he died ....3 of us made it and got killed eventually trying to rez him ...so next round we told him to pick up the light if he is next to it ... he responded "don't tell me how to play i done this before"... next round we got in the shadow part he had the light on and i was with him .. now you would think he would run to the boss room right... NOPE ... he just stayed where he dropped and started fighting and fighting adds until he died and as i was with him i tried running towards the boss room and i couldn't made it... he started blaming other people ..

. next round i picked up the light i was with healer we made it ( the healer was amazing he was running in front of me leading the way while i was throwing down caltrops ) ... the other 2 guys didn't make it so i don't know what happen.. we got him up at the boss we were doing great ... until the boss goes " stand still.." ... now i don't need to explain when person tells you to stand still ... and tank was running around like a headless chicken and yhea dead .. so we tried to rez him again and eventually we all died..... after that other guy was asking him what he has and tried to help him now the funny part..

The tank was on mic chat complaining and swearing .. we tried to ask him what he is using to help him out ..however he did not responded ..we tried many times going " hello can you hear us? we can hear our self can you hear us ?" just to hear him complaining talking about us and swearing after 6 min of trying to talk to him just to be fully ignored and im sure he could of hear us he was swearing and rage quited.

we started laughing and just went " what just happen ? "

During the catacombs stage on the last boss, I tend to have people run ahead and leave me to die. At least check back once in a while to make sure I'm still with you. -_-

CoS is always a teaching dungeon. Never ran it where I didn't have to explain some mechanics. Never had someone not listen to me in this dungeon because it is so vital to pay attention to the mechanics. I was fortunate to have a very experienced player take the time to explain all the details for me, so I can now pass that on to others.

ForsakenSin

@WhitePawPrints

LOl i had the same thing been done to me when im a templer , they all rush way way ahead of me only to all die by the time i get there ...

eventually they learned their lesson " make sure you healer is next to you"

WhitePawPrints

I remembered another story:

My guild wanted to run normal Maw of Lorkhaj a couple days ago. The raid consisted of our guild, and a lot of picked up players. I was the third most experienced player in the raid, and had only done it twice before.

I asked before the first boss if there were assigned runners, and only one person said that could do it. I had never ran before so I wasn't really willing to volunteer. When continued and got to the final boss. I led to the group to the far wall, and checked chat again to see if we had designated players. Once the boss spawned, someone performed a ready check without the chat confirming runners. It took a whole thirty seconds before I volunteered to be the second runner since it was obvious that no one knew what I was talking about except two other people.

So the other runner kindly showed me my route, and sent me a map over Discord so I can have a visualization of where the cat spawns are. While we're going through my route, two more ready checks are initiated - and one particular player was expressing his impatience via chat.

We started, and no surprise I miss some cats and the raid wipes. I manage to wipe the raid more than once, and there were a lot of confused players wondering what happened. I owned up to it and said that it was solely my fault for the wipes, most were very understanding which I really appreciated. We asked if anyone else would want to try, but no one volunteered.

Another wipe, the person who was impatient at the beginning decided to voice that I should have been replaced from the beginning. Safe to say the guild and group that all supported me didn't take it too well since he was not at all offering to help and was only offering attitude. That user was promptly removed from the raid.

What should be learned from my story: If you cannot help and be a solution, then keep your opinion whining to yourself.

SolarCat02

Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.

WhitePawPrints

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Kudos to you for volunteering to do the Ritual run. It's so difficult to get people to volunteer for that. If I am not the raid leader, I usually end up being one of the runners simply because everyone else refuses to do it, and I am the healer! But so many people are afraid to just assign someone, and nobody wants to volunteer.

Thanks! : 3 One of my runs I was a PuG, and some guild was running it. They had assigned runners well before the trial even started, so it went really smoothly. I suppose most people haven't tried it so that's why they don't volunteer. I guess it was a good experience for me, so I now can at least be a runner more often.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

ForsakenSin wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "elistits" that throw fits like that are truly the ones wanting to be carried.

You know what ... im starting to believe that

It is true. I learned it years ago playing wow. The people who have run the dungeons and knownwhat they are doing, know not everytging has to be perfect to get through. And everything will go quickly and smoothly if everyone is decent and does their job.

The others are bad players who read the forums about how this is best or that is best. How the healer has to have orbs or the dps has to be max level. So that is what they do, since they have a hard time. They never understand, they are the reason they have a hard time.

heng14rwb17_ESO

I have not used grp finder tool for a long time.
I only use zone chat.

Sucess rate for completing dung is 95+ %.

Doctordarkspawn

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "elistits" that throw fits like that are truly the ones wanting to be carried.

I have a 50/50 split with this. I got called a bad tank for having too much health by a DPS who had completed Vmol with Maelstrom ***, so.

On the other hand I've had people try to kick me doing damage when I was doing near 50% of said damage, so theeeeere you go.

Synfaer

The other day I got kicked from the pug I was tanking for not taunting Quintus Verres in vet Volenfell...

Gave me 15 min to make a nice continental roll, heavy on the Aoli. Bloody good roll that.

heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I have not used grp finder tool for a long time.
I only use zone chat.

Sucess rate for completing dung is 95+ %.

I use GF all the time and success rate is about 90%...must be lucky i guess.

Glurin

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Eshja wrote: »

But there were many good pug parties, I met really nice and good players from finder, once we did assassin and survivor achiev from CoH at same run so it's not so bad. Just elitist are like that... what is funny, cause really best players are like... 'I don't care of your build and level. Just do dmg/heal/tank. And let me do this in normal time'. And that's good thinking.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the "elistits" that throw fits like that are truly the ones wanting to be carried.

I have a 50/50 split with this. I got called a bad tank for having too much health by a DPS who had completed Vmol with Maelstrom ***, so.

On the other hand I've had people try to kick me doing damage when I was doing near 50% of said damage, so theeeeere you go.

Don't know why this reminded me of it, but I've had someone in another MMO try to kick me for not doing the same insane levels of damage that he was. Two things to know about him. One, he was exploiting what was at the time a broken mechanic that allowed him to do ungodly amounts of damage. Two, he was a min/max drone that had the lowest possible health and damage reduction stats and no skill at dodging attacks and as such was consistently being one-shot by every boss. Constantly bragged about how great and skilled he was and how noobish the rest of us were because he always topped the DPS meter by huge margins.

For the two seconds he was actually alive during the fighting anyway.

ForsakenSin

LOL wow some amazing face palm stories here

ForsakenSin

i posted this on a thread a few days ago but i think should belong here as well lol

"Lol last night something weird and funny happen ...

i don't know what to make out of it ..

so i qued up for vet ash2 undaunted it, got on mic and it was me a Austrian (good English) random girl (funny as hell) and tank cp 560 no mic so we are all chatting and going along we went pass the first boss killed it with ease and then tank stops post " can you all post in chat what equipment you got" sure not a problem we placed what we picked up to show maybe somebody is farming for specific set and then ... he stooped and started posting his purple equipment he has on him self on the text chat ...and just kept on posting and posting and posting .. and we were like... umm ok? what is going... posted in chat lets go dude come on like 7 min later he is still posting in chat equipment .. and we were waiting for him ...he stoped and then started posting again LOL ..

so the Austrian guy started posting his VMSA loot gold sharp daggers axe and a bow... the other guy stopped posting and said bye and just left ..

BAHAHA i don't know what to make out of it...?? it was like WTF just happen ?

we got a new tank and that guy was a beast on the last boss we done hard mode and we got all killed and he managed to revive all of us 2 times in the end we finished it and it was heaps of fun.

but that was just weird... is this something new now im not aware of ? Are we going to need to post what we have on our armour and weapons in order to show " Are we are worthy to run dungeon with you oh thy Master " ? lol unbelievable
"

Jeremy

ForsakenSin wrote: »

So i would like to share something that happen few days ago

So there i was qued up for VWGT as DPS , after the 3rd boss somebody left and we had this 3 people a Argonian temp healer cp 180, tank 460, and a DPS cp 300 or so.

Due to people not having mic we got killed few times and then that is when it started the leader was cp 300 and he wanted to kick out the healer to which i declined and after 2 times we got killed we got on the mic and managed to finish it, we got to the last boss and things just went down hill, the Cp 300 dps was a leader every time he died and 80% of times he was first to go down kept on saying ohh great i died again , healer didn't do his job again , tank is not doing what he is supposed to do ohh we died again look at that ... why do i bother playing, i hate this i hate that over and over and over again when its his fault as he is getting killed and we try to ress him we get killed because of him .... it gets to you

Now after 40 min of trying to finish the boss and hearing all the negativity ALL the time like and i mean ALL THE TIME , it came to the point where the tank had to go and it was 3 of us , the cp 300 tried to kick the temp many times and they started fighting via text

Cp 300 kept on trying to kick the healer to which i declined, i asked the CP 300 the leader ... get us in que so we can get a new player... cps 300 said " not until we get rid of this !@#$ healer until he is gone im not going to que us in ... i can wait here all night i don't care and you can #$%# off as well if you don't kick him out i don't care i can wait " and i heard TV going on in the background .... i whisper that to the temp ... the temp said "its ok buddy i will go so you can finish this ".."i replied back i don't need to finish it i got close every monster mask i need but you dont" .. so there we were waiting for 10 min .. and still listening to cp 300 been negative and blaming others and healer... so ive done something i didn't do in a very very long time... i voted to kick him off and we did..

after few min later we got people joining and leaving we got 1 DPS after 15 min the same guy CP 300 joined !!.... and it was like nope ,no i can't deal with his negativity again so i kicked him out again and another DPS joined and we finished it like a hot knife thought butter.

After all this i spoken to templer and he was happy he got to finish the VWGT for the first time as he was only playing for a month and a bit , i gave him some pointers and crafted him full julianos set in light purple and made him destro and resto all in Hollowjack Motif staff no charge , LOL never seen/ heard somebody so happy in my life.

My question is has anybody else came across negative people that just do your head in?

Kudos for not kicking the healer.

I find that is more often than not - the ones who complain about other players the most are usually the ones who are the problem.