Do you wear costumes because the armor designs are ugly?

ArchMikem · April 2017

I used to make due with the styles i liked most, but then zos went and made the elder council tunic and forresters hood, which i now wear on ALL my characters.

Betsararie · April 2017

Kendaric wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

How about "so no one knows what I am actually wearing in PvP"?

And I only use drop costumes. I would never spend a cent on a costume.

This is why I think they should be disallowed in pvp.

Even in PVE, if a random in my group is wearing a costume, I can't determine what type of gear he is wearing, and thus, his effectiveness.

Except for a few cases like monster helmets/shoulders, you can't determine their gear anyway.

I can tell if someone is wearing a robe, that is light armor. If they have a cuirass etc that is heavy armor. Medium you can tell too but I also know the designs. Merely look at the char.

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

How about "so no one knows what I am actually wearing in PvP"?

And I only use drop costumes. I would never spend a cent on a costume.

This is why I think they should be disallowed in pvp.

Even in PVE, if a random in my group is wearing a costume, I can't determine what type of gear he is wearing, and thus, his effectiveness.

PvP - If they killed you, they were better than you.. No need to see their gear
PvE - if you win the event, goal achieved.. No need to see their gear

Then by your logic we might as well make weapons and attack animations invisible. Hell, remove the character appearance completely and we'll all just play as spectres.

"They exist, so no need to be able to see them or anything they're using or doing" -surely your logic

DaveMoeDee · April 2017

Blanco wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

How about "so no one knows what I am actually wearing in PvP"?

And I only use drop costumes. I would never spend a cent on a costume.

This is why I think they should be disallowed in pvp.

Even in PVE, if a random in my group is wearing a costume, I can't determine what type of gear he is wearing, and thus, his effectiveness.

I 100% agree that it should not be allowed in PvP. But if it is allowed, gotta use it.

Betsararie · April 2017

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

How about "so no one knows what I am actually wearing in PvP"?

And I only use drop costumes. I would never spend a cent on a costume.

This is why I think they should be disallowed in pvp.

Even in PVE, if a random in my group is wearing a costume, I can't determine what type of gear he is wearing, and thus, his effectiveness.

I 100% agree that it should not be allowed in PvP. But if it is allowed, gotta use it.

Actually, this is true.

Since they are allowed (which they really shouldn't be), one might as well play with one because it gives you an advantage.

Maybe I'll start using it in pvp.

kevlarto_ESO · April 2017

I wear a costume because my armor makes my butt look fat, but my friends tell me my butt makes my butt look fat LOL

I wear a costume from time to time for events and things, or because it is kind of funny like the bath towel.

Nerouyn · April 2017

I generally don't buy or wear costumes because I'm not ESO Plus and can't dye them. I only wear them on my naked crafting alts for the sake of decency.

The poll is missing one blindingly obvious option - people would wear costumes to cover badly mismatched (from a style perspective) mixed armour sets.

To answer the broad question...

IMO ESO has some of the best looking armours in any game I've ever played, but they peaked early. The basic racial styles, the 3 alliance PvP styles and glass, daedric and ancient elf. These armours all look like Elder Scrolls styles. The wrothgar ones are less classic ES but also look great.

Most styles after that I wouldn't wear myself so if not for master writs, I wouldn't make any effort to learn them.

Daemons_Bane · April 2017

Imo it would be wrong to say that it gives you an advantage in PvP.. it's not like your stats get changed

Betsararie · April 2017

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Imo it would be wrong to say that it gives you an advantage in PvP.. it's not like your stats get changed

That's a fair argument that you are entitled to.

Ultimately it depends on your play style.

I just see it that if your opponent knows more about your gear than you do their's, there is an imbalance.

But, I know this doesn't hold true with everyone's strategies.

VoidBlue · April 2017

Almost all the armor sucks, so if I don't have xivkyn or ancient elf style on the main body like chest, legs, hands, feet and belt (sometimes belt). I'll try to get the crappy styles on jewelry, weapons or belt.

Which is why I try to use one crafted set which are always main body and drop set so I don't need to wear those horrible looking costumes

Some of the costumes would be pretty good if dyeing them wasn't locked behind a wall.

I have a naming and color scheme for all my characters so dyeing armor is a must.

Kiralyn2000 · April 2017

Blanco wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Imo it would be wrong to say that it gives you an advantage in PvP.. it's not like your stats get changed

That's a fair argument that you are entitled to.

Ultimately it depends on your play style.

I just see it that if your opponent knows more about your gear than you do their's, there is an imbalance.

But, I know this doesn't hold true with everyone's strategies.

Between all the different style motifs, plus dyes, plus the fact someone might be wearing any combination of 5/1/1 armor types (or not. And that "1" might be the chest, or the hidden helm).... just what all information are you gaining with a quick glance at their character as it attacks? And then there's the fact that the <whatever> Style, Rubedite chest they're wearing could be one of a dozen different sets.

Now, the weapon they're wielding seems like a big & useful clue. But that isn't concealed by a costume.

SydneyGrey · April 2017

Needed another option for the poll: 4) I use costumes to hide mismatched armor, but sometimes just because I like the costumes. I choose 4.

Karadim · April 2017

Since I can't transmog the sets I want to wear due to performance to the sets i'd love to wear due to cosmetic. Yea, costumes are used to simply hide their ugly asses away!

Browiseth · April 2017

i wear costumes to fill the void in my soul

Valykc · April 2017

I wear costumes because 75% of the good sets are in ugly Argonian style haha

Asgari · April 2017

A handful of the styles just do not dye well because of the material and look super dirty or very patchy in color. Because of that I wear costumes unless the 5 main body items are crafted

samueltannerb14_ESO · April 2017

At times yes.

Overall I want a full cosmetic system that lets us look however we want. It could easily be turned off for PVP like LOTRO.

Tabbycat · April 2017

I wear costumes because I like to change outfits daily.

thrillho5000 · April 2017

If someone ever develops a mod that hides that godforsaken giant shoulder armor, then I won't need to wear a costume all the time. Just sayin'.

Sweetpea704 · April 2017

Yes, I wear costumes because barbaric looks like a brown, leather yoga suit....for cavemen. Don't even get me started about Argonian....

But, I also filch "disguises" to cover vampirism, because YIKES!!

Runschei · April 2017

A mix of all. I tend to run with my helmet hidden, but I also like the seadrake disguise, and some armor I proudly fool around in

TrueGreenSmoker · April 2017

I put on a costume because the Xivkyn Augur looks awesome. Used to rock the goblin but the surfing on the mount got old.. Lol

lunawisp · April 2017

All my characters use costumes, not necessarily because I think the alternatives are ugly (though some of them certainly are!) but because I think some of the costumes look very nice. I tend to swap costumes depending on what I'm doing - most of my character have a town costume, a fighting costume and a lazing-around-on-the-beach costume.

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Savallah in her townie costume

Kirameku · April 2017

Ermm I wear costumes because they seem better than armor. Especially dresses

Turelus · April 2017

Generally I wear costumes because I don't have good matching sets.

If I could only ever use crafted I would be very happy, as you can make some very sexy combinations.

Waseem · April 2017

all of them are ugly so you can use costume or buy from crown store- passive design,, and it works

Rev Rielle · April 2017

Cryptical wrote: »

I made some heavy bulwark to try out in pvp. In ra gada.

Those bars with the feathers are ridiculous.

No they're not. If you bother reading the motif books as you get them they're part of the Ra Gada Warrior wave that came, the 4th wave I believe, that honoured Tava; the yokudan/redguard bird god of weather.

So they're anything but ridiculous.

menedhyn · April 2017

Yes, I wear costumes because I can't stand the look and appearance of some of the armour designs. But I also wear costumes because they fit how I want to play my characters, much like I wear looted clothing the majority of the time when i'm not on a quest.

Generally speaking I prefer the look of lower level gear.

KanedaSyndrome · April 2017

I use costumes, and being able to dye my costumes is one of the reasons that I went ESO+ (that and the crafting bag), since we're still not able to redesign the style of armor we find.

A good way to introduce a sink of style items is to allow crafters to spend these to redesign the styles of gear, that way we can make found dungeon gear look the way we want.

KanedaSyndrome · April 2017

BigBragg wrote: »

I wear costumes because all the cool motifs I learn are useless.

Yeah, what's the point in learning awesome motifs when all the gear that's worthwhile using is dropped gear which can't be transformed to a new style.

Fixing this should actually be high on the priority list of ZOS.

FrancisCrawford · April 2017

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

It's not that the specific styles are ugly, bar a few like spinners, but more that the inevitable mix of styles is very ugly.

We have bingo. That's my biggest reason.

My second-biggest reason is that we can't hide shoulder pads in this game, and they're almost all ugly or at least out of proportion to the rest of the gear, even the non-monster ones.