No

Yeah, the crafting bag solved all my storage issues, so I have no need of double bank space. Of course, I'm not an "endgame" player who's collecting a huge array of set items. /shrug

Saraya wrote: »

If any one ever had the opinion that Elder Scrolls Online is a pay to enjoy product, and Zenimax are milking people, they wouldn't have to use much evidence beyond the fact that the crafting bag is available to subscribers only. The realization that so many people willingly accept this as the 'norm' speaks volumes about modern MMOs.

I could understand if it was a free to play game with a subscription option, but it isn't - it's a buy to play game, which in order to get services that should be included in that original purchase, costs additional money.

And let's not get started about the paid DLCs...expansions ok, but DLC?

So it's not just about bank space. As one user said, that's icing on the cake - I presume though, nasty aftertaste synthetic sugar substitute taste, when you consider what you actually paid monthly for.

What are you talking about? So Blizzard is milking people with WoW too? All games give some type of "bonus" for subbing even if it's just extra XP.

Well, I think it is a great thing. I have subbed since early access, have maxed storage on all 8 toons, and max bank space.
So like so many others have stated, I don't really have any storage issues, UNTIL!
Morrowind!
I think this is ZoS way to get ready for Morrowind as we have a new class, new gear, etc, so I'm happy for the "Perk", but would continue my sub even without it. I would continue my sub without the crafting bag too!
Why? Because I love ESO and want to support it with my $. Period.

BUT! I REALLY wish the new ESO+ perks would be, oh, let's say....More Housing Slots! Housing Storage! Armor Mannequins!
Display Cases!
Just my 2 Septims...
Huzzah!

I think this is great, and it makes me happy as someone who does sub.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Then quit playing MMO's.

Any and every MMORPG on the market that offers a subscription service, gives their subscribers perks and benefits that the non-subscribers don't get to enjoy.

The only MMORPG's that DON'T do this: are MMORPG's that require a subscription from every player.

And this is how it's always been in the MMORPG genre. It's not new. It's not shady. It's not a shameless money grab.

MMORPG's used to be entirely subscription based. You had to pay every month to play anything at all. But everr since the first MMO to do so gave a B2P or F2P option, they have all given extra Perks to those players whom subscribed as a way of saying "thank you" for the additional, regular revenue.

Anyone who doesn't realize this is either 1) new to MMO's or 2) keeping themselves willfully ignorant/blind for the 20+ years MMORPG's have been in existence.

@Uriel_Nocturne

Nah, I don't think I will. If you re-read my post, you'll see I'm not arguing against subs or sub perks. I'm fine with subs getting stuff everyone else doesn't. I'm just against those perks being tied so directly to the game's fun factor. Inventory space IS an issue in ESO. The community has been saying it for some time. But you don't create fixes for core issues like that and then lock it behind a paywall.

I'm neither new to MMO's or willfully ignorant. Like you, I've been gaming for a long time. Roughly 20+ years. I'm well aware of how MMO's used to work. But then the market became overcrowded. F2P or B2P became the norm due to there being more than one or two MMO's worth playing.

Here's a list of things that ESO+ members could get that wouldn't interfere with the core gameplay experience the way the inventory problem does.
*Exclusive cosmetics
*Store discounts
*XP boosts (already in, I know)
*Crowns (already in, I know)
*If there's ever a transmog system, unlimited transmogs for subs
*If they ever provide more account services (alliance/class switch), free access/reduced cost for those

My WHOLE issue with ESO as it stands, is that ZOS is taking a beloved IP and a pretty solid MMO and turning it into another profit-grinding soulless machination. Every decision they've made recently, starting with the addition of crown crates, has been almost entirely in the interest of padding their profit margins while giving very little in return. Every single thing they're doing is designed to push people towards spending more and more money, and creating a sub-par experience for those that don't.

Since you know so much about how MMO's work, surely you've noticed that ZOS has essentially implemented pricing models from BOTH B2P and a F2P games? We have a base cost, DLC, "chapters," subscriptions, gambling crates, and an in-game store that we are constantly nudged towards, that is adding more and more exclusive items at increasing prices. There's going to be a time-limited house that will cost upwards of $80 (judging by the other housing prices) in the crown store. That is laughable. They recently added store-only motifs. The tide is rising, and some people refuse to notice. How much money is someone supposed to spend in order to get a complete experience?

TL;DR

They have enough revenue sources that they can ease up on the nickel and diming, especially for something as easily remedied and important to the experience as inventory space. I wonder how many more ways they will find to slice off game features and content and ask for more money before everyone has enough.

I have all the space I need. More alts if more is needed.

If I hadn't bought all of the expansions then I would definitely subscribe

I only have 1-2 characters, so don't really need that much space.